Turkish Small Arms Industry | Updates and Discussions

[kartal1]

What does GKK stand for?

Actually this difference is not as big as we think. MKEK has been producing and selling 7.62x51mm for civil market)
And all 9x19mm ammunition have been produced more powerful which need MP-5 subguns.
Can you imagine all 9mm ammos are extra loaded and civil users and police use in their ordinary pistols.
İt is said that because of MKEKs powerful ammos a lot of pistols have been broken.

GKK- Gecici Koy Korucusu.

 

[UkroTurk]

The reason Sarsılmaz has produced .308 caliber AK-47 clones ,is they might have targeted US civil market with this caliber like SAIGA.
Arada devletimizede niye kaptırmıyoruzdiye assault denemişlerdir.Nede olsa kaptırmaz sarsılamaz.

 

[u.MP]

What does GKK stand for?

Actually this difference is not as big as we think. MKEK has been producing and selling 7.62x51mm for civil market)
And all 9x19mm ammunition have been produced more powerful which need MP-5 subguns.
Can you imagine all 9mm ammos are extra loaded and civil users and police use in their ordinary pistols.
İt is said that because of MKEKs powerful ammos a lot of pistols have been broken.

That is because MKEK produces standard NATO 9mm, which is "hotter" than average 9mm loads. Apparently, not all pistols can handle standard NATO 9mm reliably.

 

[Hexciter]

DSA 2018: Turkish armed forces to receive 5.56 mm assault rifles from Kale Group

Jayesh Dhingra, Kuala Lumpur - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
16 April 2018

Turkey’s Kale Group will begin delivering its KCR-556 5.56x45 (5.56 mm NATO)-calibre assault rifles to the Turkish armed forces once final qualification trials for the weapon are completed later this month, a company official told Jane’s at the 16-19 April Defence Services Asia 2018 (DSA 2018) exhibition in Kuala Lumpur.

The company offers three variants of the rifle: a longer version designated the KCR-556 L (formerly known as the KCR-556U/K rifle) featuring a 368 mm-long barrel; a shorter version called the KCR556 S-II with a 279 mm barrel; and a close quarter battle version called the KCR556 S-I featuring a 190.5 mm barrel.
http://www.janes.com/article/79314/...eceive-5-56-mm-assault-rifles-from-kale-group

 

[cabatli_53]

Turkish army testing Aselsan’s new 40 mm high-velocity airburst round
Jayesh Dhingra, Kuala Lumpur - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
18 April 2018
Turkish company Aselsan has revealed that a recently developed airburst round for its 40 mm high-velocity grenade launchers is undergoing qualification tests with the Turkish Land Forces Command.

Mustafa Kaval, the company’s head of defence system technology, told Jane’s on 19 April at the Defence Services Asia 2018 (DSA 2018) exhibition in Kuala Lumpur that the qualification process will be completed in the next three months after which the round is expected to enter serial production.

Aselsan’s new 40 mm airburst round features a programmable fuze set for airburst within the chamber through the use of an ammunition interface.

http://www.janes.com/article/79407/...lsan-s-new-40-mm-high-velocity-airburst-round

 

[Otonom Piyade]

That could possibly be also integrated on ATAK II ?

 

[cabatli_53]

That could possibly be also integrated on ATAK II ?

It will be SARP 40mm AGL on the armoured vehicles.

 

[Inspector Spacetime]

Anyone know how KCR-556 compares to MPT-55? What's the difference and why the need for two different but same weapons (at first glance at least)?

 

[UkroTurk]

Anyone know how KCR-556 compares to MPT-55? What's the difference and why the need for two different but same weapons (at first glance at least)?

KCR must be the protype of their MPT variants. It might be also semi-auto variant for US civil market of MPT. Mechanism must be as same as MPT.Short stroke gas piston system.
Anyone could say anything , not having seen closely.

 

[kartal1]

JOAK with KCR556

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[Kamil_baku]

JOAK with KCR556

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wow. its smaller and lighter than i expected... really cool weapon and you should sell it in the US...

 

[UkroTurk]

I really wonder about quality differences between MPTs if there were different producers?

Here its Russian Vepr AK47 worked app 600 shot

Here it's romanian AK47 for US civil market failed after 200-300

Here cheap ar-15 melted down fastly

Here another AR-15 has the longest durability.

BTW for assault rifle sustainable rate of fire is 10-15 shot per minute!! If you fire more than 15 per minutes your high quality gun would be damaged at least barrel would be destroyed, you would lost velocity.
Thats why always platoons need LMG like RPK's or FN minimis.
Modern variant of RPK47 , is RPK 16 has critical fire app 300!
RPK74 had app 200 fire.
I wish They to produce LMG .

 

[Kamil_baku]

I really wonder about quality differences between MPTs if there were different producers?

Here its Russian Vepr AK47 worked app 600 shot

Here it's romanian AK47 for US civil market failed after 200-300

Here cheap ar-15 melted down fastly

Here another AR-15 has the longest durability.

BTW for assault rifle sustainable rate of fire is 10-15 shot per minute!! If you fire more than 15 per minutes your high quality gun would be damaged at least barrel would be destroyed, you would lost velocity.
Thats why always platoons need LMG like RPK's or FN minimis.
Modern variant of RPK47 , is RPK 16 has critical fire app 300!
RPK74 had app 200 fire.
I wish They to produce LMG .

it looks like that and the Turkish guys change magazines faster than the guy there... but unfortunately we cannot see it until the end result

 

[UkroTurk]

it looks like that and the Turkish guys change magazines faster than the guy there... but unfortunately we cannot see it until the end result

During the video they fired 10 magazines x 20 .308 ammo.

But the question is different.
Lets assume that MKEKs MPT maches quality standart.
But Other producers could follow same path? Different producers, different products.
Tisaş, Girsan, Sarsılmaz are willing to produce this platform. They have revealed own prototypes.

 

[kartal1]

Somalian soldier with MPT76