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How are you going to send Erdoğan away by winning Parliamentary elections with another party? o_O

I literally explained the new political system, one page ago.. Literally..


What?
You're right but winning the general election is the first step towards the presidency.
 
You're right but winning the general election is the first step towards the presidency.
It is not, actually. With new system, even a guy who has no connection with any political party can be a candidate and can be a President in Turkey.

With current party leaders and their qualities, its not hard to beat them in election o_O
 
It is not, actually. With new system, even a guy who has no connection with any political party can be a candidate and can be a President in Turkey.

With current party leaders and their qualities, its not hard to beat them in election o_O
I understand your point of view but you are too legalistic. Winning the general election means getting the upper hand in daily politics. It would be the beginning of a dynamic process which could lead to a change in the presidential office. Even after the implementation of the new system general elections will remain highly important.

Besides, people usually see the candidate and party as one unit even if it's possible to split the vote. Normally the winner of the general election will be the winner of the presidential election too. This is what we witness in Western democracies. However, only way to break this cycle is going into a coalition.

Because of this fact, I firmly believe that this new system will ironically lead to the end of Erdoğan. Mark my words. The last referendum was a foretaste of what is to come.
 
I understand your point of view but you are too legalistic. Winning the general election means getting the upper hand in daily politics. It would be the beginning of a dynamic process which could lead to a change in the presidential office.

It is the opposite, tho. Again, you don't exactly know that is changed after the Referandum. You think like that;

"Oh, if they capture Parliament once, then it means people are supporting that ideology and will vote that ideology's representive guy in Presidency election" o_O

First of all, people don't even know who are MP candidates in their own cities, for their own supported political party, yet alone each political parties. What does it mean? It means people vote for LEADER of the political party. Not for MP candidates that they will learn their names when they get elected o_O Or not even after they elected. For example, i still do not know all names of MPs in parliament, from Istanbul's 3rd electional region, even though i live in here and i used my vote. Did you learn all the MP candidates' names and their life stories before going vote? No.

That being said, only political party leader matters.

If one political party leader will also be a candidate for Presidential Elections => s/he won't be a MP, s/he won't be in Parliament.
If one political party leader won't be a candidate for Presidential Elections => then why would people support him/her? o_O

It is a paradox. People are supposed to win Presidential Election first, to save his/her political life, or will be removed from political life.
 
Didn't he just extended his rule to another decade?
 
How are you going to send Erdoğan away by winning Parliamentary elections with another party? o_O

I literally explained the new political system, one page ago.. Literally..


What?

I will vote for them both for legislatif and presidentiel election. You don't need to explain to the new political system.

What you don't undestand ? Before AKP, the army was the true leader of the country, the previous govts simply didn't have the right to meddle in some important area : military affectation and salary, kurdish and Cypriot problem, the constitution made by military...all of them and more was military red ligne over the previous govt.
 

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When i watched video i was thinking that this must be another country, because some of our people allways blame government and never satisfied. Actually our govenment done great jobs and offer better conditions than many countries...
 
Didn't he just extended his rule to another decade?
There will be presidency elections in 2019.

If Erdoğan gets elected he will rule for 5 years.

Then another elections, if he gets elected again he will rule for another 5 years.

After 2nd term, end to politics.
 
Dai Toruko, is that japanese for "great turk", I don't think Turkey has changed its stance on lawmakers visiting. It's political, and I guess we're still trying to keep politicians away from our military bases.
 
kurdish and Cypriot problem, the constitution made by military.
There is no such thing as "kurdish problem" or "cyproit problem"

military affectation and salary
Military spending was always historical low relative to other nations, so this is another bullshit.

Before AKP, the army was the true leader of the country
That is why Army didn't kill FETÖ bastards but instead just issued warning to AKP tens of times to cut the relationship with FETÖ? o_O Wow, such a control maniacs is that Army :lol:

Kemalists were, and are, the guarantee of the Turkish State. Fethollah Pisslamist scum wanted to destroy Kemalists in order to divide Turkey, and AKP helped so because they were also FETÖ scum. It is not a rocket science.
 
Dai Toruko, is that japanese for "great turk", I don't think Turkey has changed its stance on lawmakers visiting. It's political, and I guess we're still trying to keep politicians away from our military bases.

Yes it is, do you like it?
 
I hate him. He is not a nationalist, he's a racist scumbag. Never going to vote for them. Anyway, my party is LDP.
Werent you an AKP supporter before?!

Even now Erdogan still continue to be irrationel because he is unable to take a step back about Syria : make a deal with Assad and **** PKK/YPG....this only rational thing Turkey can do now.
THIS! Millions times of this! He is still saying "Assad is a murderer" "Assad is a dictator" "Assad needs to go"... as if he didnt learn anything from any of what happened recently!
 
Betraying whom?

Guys please first do some research before talking about people. He is a major strategist of our country, founder of ASAM, founder of think tank 21yyte, he trains other experts on geopolitical strategy, security and intelligence strategies.

Learn, think and then talk... And please come with some rational arguments or every topic you talk becomes a pissing contest of middleschoolers.

Well this part definitely missing at you...

He is a major strategist, founder, think tanker this and that ok nice but the facts showing something different then what you introduce about him. He is together with Meral Aksener a project to devide and weaken the nationalist party MHP and the Ulkucu Hareket. Last two years Turkey struggles with many problems thats a direct threat to the country in its whole. The political crisis is a part of this. If MHP was weaken and devided in parts, the coup attempt on 15 july would definitely be a succes. Also Erdogan started to replace FETÖ workers by Ulkuculer to clean up the whole bureaucracy. So MHP and Ulkuculer was and still is a big target for FETO. Bahceli and his friends are very aware of this and exposed these kind of betrayers very well.

If he has his own ideology and way of thinking then f*** off start a damn own party?

Gelmis burda balon sisiriyor yok Umit Ozdag boyleymis te soyleymis te. Hepimiz gorduk nasil iki paralik bir herif oldugunu. Bakti ki parti bu serefsizi takmiyor, hemen CHPKK'nin kucagina zipladi. Amator Halk TV'den inmiyor artik.
 
This is exactily we call a media preception they introducing her with "iron lady" just to fair Erdogan.
Turkey is lucky to have a leader who is leading from the front like like our Nawaz tind who looted money overseas along with his kids. i hope they live there and they die there dont want their bodies in our land.
 
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