Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[Baybars Han]

What? Can't tell if your trolling or not. You were the one who just said "Is the ruskie terrorists left Afrin yet!".

I don't know why you just resorted to insulting me. It was completely uncalled for and unnecessary. Go argue with PKK sympathisers instead of channelling your anger towards me buddy.

Anyway, as far as I know we are going to enter Arfin. Arfin has been watched over by the Russians for a while. In case you haven't seen the news lately, the Russian defence minister visited Erdogan for talks about Arfin. If MHP/AKP fanboys like YOU are right about Tayyip's renewed Syria policy then that means that we should see the start of a new operation in Arfin. Do you remember how we cooperated with Russia in ES? Well that came after meetings, just like the one that occurred yesterday..

I would love for Turkiye to have a fully independent foreign policy, but right now it is not possible. So if we are to choose out of sucking USA's c*ck or working together with Russia then I'd choose the latter, because as we have seen Russia is a much better ally.

Now swallow your pride and please tell me why my IQ is low? You sound like you have a major issue with Russian-Turkish cooperation..

Dont mix AKP and Bahceli with AKP and MHP supporters.

If you think Russia entered afrin to stop USA then you are very naive. Russia allows ypg to open offices in moscow, Russia still dont see pkk as a terrorist organisation. I can carry on for so long. Russia is not an ally. They are as bad as the USA.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

Dont mix AKP and Bahceli with AKP and MHP supporters.

If you think Russia entered afrin to stop USA then you are very naive. Russia allows ypg to open offices in moscow, Russia still dont see pkk as a terrorist organisation. I can carry on for so long. Russia is not an ally. They are as bad as the USA.

Did Russia enter Arfin in order to stop the USA? Perhaps not. But that ended up being the outcome. I'm not some type of Russia-loving freak (as you said they still haven't listed PKK as a terror organisation), but America has harmed Turkey more than any other country. We need to cut relations with them as soon as we acquire the F-35s.

The US has dropped off heavy weapons for YPG/PKK terrorists and meanwhile has refused to give us the weaponry we need at a reasonable price. Their double standards are ridiculous. Even the American public is unbearable these days. They're the complete opposite of us. Meanwhile we share a lot of moral-affinity with Russia.

I just can't see us being allies with America anymore. They lie to our face non-stop and try to deny links between YPG and PKK. I don't know if you've been living under a rock, but Russian rhetoric against YPG has shifted massively, from being neutral to being enemies.

With Russia selling the S-400 system to us and getting into talks about a new 5th gen fighter, meanwhile acquiring NATO standard electronic tech through Turkish companies in Kazakhstan, you're seeing the beginning of a new alliance.

It's good to be suspicious about Russia, but in reality they're as fearful of us as we are of them. There is absolutely no point in us being on the opposite side of what has become the second cold war.

If you still can't figure out what all this means then "Your iq is below 50".

Seriously, let go of your love for America.

http://www.pravdareport.com/opinion/columnists/26-05-2017/137837-erdogan_trump_meeting-0/

 

[LeGenD]

Did Russia enter Arfin in order to stop the USA? Perhaps not. But that ended up being the outcome. I'm not some type of Russia-loving freak (as you said they still haven't listed PKK as a terror organisation), but America has harmed Turkey more than any other country. We need to cut relations with them as soon as we acquire the F-35s.

The US has dropped off heavy weapons for YPG/PKK terrorists and meanwhile has refused to give us the weaponry we need at a reasonable price. Their double standards are ridiculous. Even the American public is unbearable these days. They're the complete opposite of us. Meanwhile we share a lot of moral-affinity with Russia.

I just can't see us being allies with America anymore. They lie to our face non-stop and try to deny links between YPG and PKK. I don't know if you've been living under a rock, but Russian rhetoric against YPG has shifted massively, from being neutral to being enemies.

With Russia selling the S-400 system to us and getting into talks about a new 5th gen fighter, meanwhile acquiring NATO standard electronic tech through Turkish companies in Kazakhstan, you're seeing the beginning of a new alliance.

It's good to be suspicious about Russia, but in reality they're as fearful of us as we are of them. There is absolutely no point in us being on the opposite side of what has become the second cold war.

If you still can't figure out what all this means then "Your iq is below 50".

Seriously, let go of your love for America.

http://www.pravdareport.com/opinion/columnists/26-05-2017/137837-erdogan_trump_meeting-0/

Do you think they will give you F-35 under the present circumstances?

Hate to point this out to you (brother) but Tayyip Erdogan is not acting wisely. He is on the verge of becoming a dictator and jeopardizing American-led efforts to combat ISIS in Syria by going after YPG there. Please keep in mind that YPG is a much bigger Kurd force then PKK and operations against it is ill-advised and ill-timed at this junction since ISIS will benefit from this conflict most. And ISIS will spare no state.

Situation is becoming worse by the day and there are calls from within the US to remove Turkey from NATO recently: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanley-weiss/its-time-to-kick-erdogans_b_9300670.html

If relations with US are beyond repair - I think Turkey should exit from NATO in dignified manner and end its diplomatic relations with the US altogether. No fun in crying wolf while have relations with wolf at the same time.

In-fact, some European States are also loosing patience with Turkey: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-14/turkey-s-nato-status-grows-more-troubled

Not looking good.

 

[Hamzza]

PKK planning to hand over Afrin to the Syrian government. Btw many PKK members killed during artillary atack by TAF last night

https://twitter.com/x/status/881908493846024192

So far that news is apparently fake, denied by Rojava News. But either way their end is coming.

 

[Baybars Han]

Do you think they will give you F-35 under the present circumstances?

Hate to point this out to you (brother) but Tayyip Erdogan is not acting wisely. He is on the verge of becoming a dictator and jeopardizing American-led efforts to combat ISIS in Syria by going after YPG there. Please keep in mind that YPG is a much bigger Kurd force then PKK and operations against it is ill-advised and ill-timed at this junction since ISIS will benefit from this conflict most. And ISIS will spare no state.

Situation is becoming worse by the day and there are calls from within the US to remove Turkey from NATO recently: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanley-weiss/its-time-to-kick-erdogans_b_9300670.html

If relations with US are beyond repair - I think Turkey should exit from NATO in dignified manner and end its diplomatic relations with the US altogether. No fun in crying wolf while have relations with wolf at the same time.

In-fact, some European States are also loosing patience with Turkey: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-14/turkey-s-nato-status-grows-more-troubled

Not looking good.

What a stupid analysis. Do you really think USA really cares about isis? ISIS is just a cover to their overall ambitions and aims, you dont have to be Einstein to see this.

 

[OguzSenturk]

I think Turkey should exit from NATO

Turkey is NATO, therefore cannot "exit" from NATO.

 

[LeGenD]

What a stupid analysis. Do you really think USA really cares about isis? ISIS is just a cover to their overall ambitions and aims, you dont have to be Einstein to see this.

Bro,

You don't see 'problems' between US and Turkey? These problems are clearly visible to neutral observers.

US perceives ISIS as a major threat to its interests since ISIS has the potential to replace (former) Al-Qaeda Network for waging Jihad against WEST and others.

Either bridge your ties with US or risk EXIT from NATO. Americans are not in mood to fondle their European allies let alone Turkey.

Trump administration is not like Obama administration in its dealings with other states. My (friendly advice) is to tread carefully in matters pertaining to YPG and Syria.

Turkey is NATO, therefore cannot "exit" from NATO.

NATO is American creation, my friend. They can dissolve it any time.

 

[T-123456]

jeopardizing American-led efforts to combat ISIS in Syria

Did you know that ISIS was created to counter the Iranian influence in Iraq only,at first?

Please keep in mind that YPG is a much bigger Kurd force then PKK

YPG is PKK lead by KCK( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Communities_Union ).

Situation is becoming worse by the day and there are calls from within the US to remove Turkey from NATO recently: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanley-weiss/its-time-to-kick-erdogans_b_9300670.html

If relations with US are beyond repair - I think Turkey should exit from NATO in dignified manner and end its diplomatic relations with the US altogether. No fun in crying wolf while have relations with wolf at the same time.

In-fact, some European States are also loosing patience with Turkey: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-14/turkey-s-nato-status-grows-more-troubled

All just speculations,not to be taken serious.
But still,you are right,not looking good for us.

 

[C130]

Bro,

You don't see 'problems' between US and Turkey? These problems are clearly visible to neutral observers.

US perceives ISIS as a major threat to its interests since ISIS has the potential to replace (former) Al-Qaeda Network for waging Jihad against WEST and others.

Either bridge your ties with US or risk EXIT from NATO. Americans are not in mood to fondle their European allies let alone Turkey.

Trump administration is not like Obama administration in its dealings with other states. My (friendly advice) is to tread carefully in matters pertaining to YPG and Syria.


NATO is American creation, my friend. They can dissolve it any time.

ISIS is a creation of U.S/Israel. It's a honey pot to lure Muslims out of the West to do Jihad for the interests of Israel and the U.S. unbeknownst to them.

 

[LeGenD]

Did you know that ISIS was created to counter the Iranian influence in Iraq only,at first?

Perhaps.

YPG is PKK lead by KCK( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Communities_Union ).

YPG is Syrian and PKK is Turkish.

Didn't Turkey allow its Kurd populace to migrate to Syria?

All just speculations,not to be taken serious.

Sure....all-good between US and Turkey, right?

ISIS is a creation of U.S/Israel. It's a honey pot to lure Muslims out of the West to do Jihad for the interests of Israel and the U.S. unbeknownst to them.

My friend,

This is a yellow journalism construct for the gullible and a popular conspiracy theory on this forum.

This is a serious overview of ISIS: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/12/middleeast/here-is-how-isis-began/index.html

 

[T-123456]

YPG is Syrian and PKK is Turkish.

YPG is Kurdish,so is the PKK,you think they care about borders?
Know what you are talking about,maybe do some research.

All-good between US and Turkey, right?

Where did i say that?
The whole world knows that relations between the two ''allies'' are not good but my country leaving NATO is a wishful thinking,never going to happen.

 

[C130]

Perhaps.


YPG is Syrian and PKK is Turkish.

Didn't Turkey allow its Kurd populace to migrate to Syria?


Sure....all-good between US and Turkey, right?


My friend,

This is a yellow journalism construct for the gullible and a popular conspiracy theory on this forum.

This is a serious overview of ISIS: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/12/middleeast/here-is-how-isis-began/index.html

just funny how IS interest aligns with Israel and U.S. weaken Syria, weaken Iraq, and finally go after Iran.

FSA and IS are useful idiots.

 

[Nurhak40]

the guy who is saying erdogan is doing some things that nato countries cant stand anymore? really? dude they already hate us from the beginning and they will continue to hate us

 

[LeGenD]

YPG is Kurdish,so is the PKK,you think they care about borders?
Know what you are talking about,maybe do some research.

I have done my homework.

YPG is not PKK and has no interest in the affairs of PPK across the border in Turkey. Read this piece: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/15/syrias-kurds-are-not-the-pkk-erdogan-pyd-ypg/

PKK-based elements might have taken refuge in YPG-dominated regions of Syria but Tayyip Erdogan is risking a much wider conflict by lumping YPG and PKK together in his strategic calculus. Please keep in mind that YPG is a much larger and better armed force than PKK and Operation Euphrates Shield will worsen the situation.

Learn more from here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33690060

YPG is playing a big role in US-led "war effort" against ISIS in Syria on the ground in current times. However, Turkish thrusts into YPG-dominated regions have infuriated YPG to the extent that it might call off its offensive against ISIS in Raqqa.

If YPG pulls out from "war effort" against ISIS - what is the alternative? You cannot defeat ISIS with air strikes only. You need boots on the ground.

Where did i say that?
The whole world knows that relations between the two ''allies'' are not good but my country leaving NATO is a wishful thinking,never going to happen.

Hopefully not.

However, you need to "control" Erdogan. There is right time for every kind of fight.

Defeat of ISIS should be top priority right now. YPG can be addressed later.

just funny how IS interest aligns with Israel and U.S. weaken Syria, weaken Iraq, and finally go after Iran.

FSA and IS are useful idiots.

My friend,

That footage is in reference to neocon agenda of Bush administration.

ISIS is a different beast and you are connecting wrong dots. ISIS will go after Iran (and US) - this is the difference.

 

[C130]

I have done my homework.

YPG is not PKK and has no interest in the affairs of PPK across the border in Turkey. Read this piece: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/15/syrias-kurds-are-not-the-pkk-erdogan-pyd-ypg/

PKK-based elements might have taken refuge in YPG-dominated regions of Syria but Tayyip Erdogan is risking a much wider conflict by lumping YPG and PKK together in his strategic calculus. Please keep in mind that YPG is a much larger and better armed force than PKK and Operation Euphrates Shield will worsen the situation.

Learn more from here: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33690060

YPG is playing a big role in US-led "war effort" against ISIS in Syria on the ground in current times. However, Turkish thrusts into YPG-dominated regions have infuriated YPG to the extent that it might call off its offensive against ISIS in Raqqa.

If YPG pulls out from "war effort" against ISIS - what is the alternative? You cannot defeat ISIS with air strikes only. You need boots on the ground.


Hopefully not.

However, you need to "control" Erdogan. There is time for every kind of fight.

Defeat of ISIS should be top priority right now. YPG can be handled later.


My friend,

That footage is in reference to neocon agenda of Bush administration and it is history now. ISIS have nothing to do with it.

funny how Obama has created more chaos than Bush. toppling Libya and destroying Syria has led to millions of refugees/immigrants flooding into Europe. you think this is just a neocon agenda?? both sides are working for the interests of Israel.

Osama Bing Laden was a CIA/Mossad agent and you can bet the leadership of ISIS are CIA/Mossad agents as well.