Turkish Oil & Gas Exploration Update & Discussion

[Nosferatu]

Fake as fak, they are using ther own ships.

No, it's not. Can you back your claim?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1203732409163886592

 

[CAN_TR]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1203729551915913217

Şu paylaşım 1 saattir her yerde dönüyor. Miragleri ile kilit atmışlar. Ege'de bulunan pilotlarımız henuz istenilen seviyede değiller anlaşılan. Bu üçüncü hadise oluyor. Daha birkaç hafta önce bizim jetlerle girdikleri it dalışını paylaşmışlardı.

Darbe sonrası konvosyanel harbe hazırlığımızı ve pilotlarımızın seviyesini ölçmeye çalışıyorlar.

And you think the crew on the frigate was not aware of it? The moment the Mirage fires the Exocet, the frigate would react in same manner. Nothing than provocations.

 

[Nosferatu]

Fake news.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1203805367135809536

 

[SİLAHDAR]

That's will be fake news ok. But that kind of scenario will be real in the feature. Just because that kind of aircraft will be comes from high altitude and fire his missile clearly to our frigate. Just because essm is have a really low max altitude.

We must have stop-gap air defence frigate and that kind of ships must will be operational on his attack range. That will be what kind of stop-gap ? I have 3 option. Less Logical to Most ;

1- Buying second hend la fayette from frenchs and modernize him with 48 vls with aster 15/30 and smart-l etc. This is very hard for macron and political issues.

2- Modernize barbaros class +8 vls (for the behalf of front ciws for essm and aft 16 vls for long range) + çafrad-lite s band (300 km) + aselsan akr-d block-2 and add him siper lrad or aster-30 or 9M96E2 missile.

3- Modernize İ class frigate with çafrad-lite s band (300 km) + aselsan akr-d block-2 and add him more 16 vls and integrate him siper lrad or aster-30 or 9M96E2 missile. He have enough capability for him.

 

[Bogeyman]

Turkey to perform deepwater drilling in the eastern Mediterranean 3rd prepares to purchase the drilling vessel.
https://t.co/9SQHF8KiLX?amp=1
In Libya, the National Memorandum Government announced that it had shot down 15 fighter planes belonging to the Caliph Hafter.
https://www.timeturk.com/hafter-in-trablus-a-girisi-engellendi/haber-1316942

 

[SİLAHDAR]

And also thats same for air force and land forces;

We must integrate aesa radar for all our

Turkey to perform deepwater drilling in the eastern Mediterranean 3rd prepares to purchase the drilling vessel.
https://t.co/9SQHF8KiLX?amp=1
In Libya, the National Memorandum Government announced that it had shot down 15 fighter planes belonging to the Caliph Hafter.
https://www.timeturk.com/hafter-in-trablus-a-girisi-engellendi/haber-1316942

İf I'm not wrong Deep Sea Metro I and II drilling deep capability is not good and enough. But gas in the east med is avalible in the more deep. İf we take a more advanced ship we will find this gas very clearly.

 

[Bogeyman]

1- Buying second hend la fayette from frenchs and modernize him with 48 vls with aster 15/30 and smart-l etc. This is very hard for macron and political issues.

It is no longer possible for us to come together with the French on any subject in the context of the defense industry. The technology transfer scheduled for the Samp-t missile defense system will never take place. Ismail Demir announced that the project was delayed by the French.
http://www.kokpit.aero/ismail-demir-eurosam-aciklama
Moreover, Greek media announced that the French-flagged research ships would search for gas off the island of Crete and would accompany the research ship on French submarines.
https://www.timeturk.com/atina-dan-turkiye-ile-fransa-yi-karsi-karsiya-getirecek-hamle/haber-1317124
In short, it is not possible for us to meet with the French anymore.

 

[SİLAHDAR]

It is no longer possible for us to come together with the French on any subject in the context of the defense industry. The technology transfer scheduled for the Samp-t missile defense system will never take place. Ismail Demir announced that the project was delayed by the French.
http://www.kokpit.aero/ismail-demir-eurosam-aciklama
Moreover, Greek media announced that the French-flagged research ships would search for gas off the island of Crete and would accompany the research ship on French submarines.
https://www.timeturk.com/atina-dan-turkiye-ile-fransa-yi-karsi-karsiya-getirecek-hamle/haber-1317124
In short, it is not possible for us to meet with the French anymore.

Yes that's a hard option . But logical move for greeks I hope they not give and update this ships.

 

[dBSPL]

 

[azyr]

It is no longer possible for us to come together with the French on any subject in the context of the defense industry. The technology transfer scheduled for the Samp-t missile defense system will never take place. Ismail Demir announced that the project was delayed by the French.
http://www.kokpit.aero/ismail-demir-eurosam-aciklama
Moreover, Greek media announced that the French-flagged research ships would search for gas off the island of Crete and would accompany the research ship on French submarines.
https://www.timeturk.com/atina-dan-turkiye-ile-fransa-yi-karsi-karsiya-getirecek-hamle/haber-1317124
In short, it is not possible for us to meet with the French anymore.

"For now". International relations have only a single basis, the short term gains vs the long term consequences. Apart from that, all's free game. You're telling me we'll not align our interests with the French from now on - like never?

How much is Greece's goodwill worth in France? How much will Turkey's power projection being on the same side will be worth to France which is struggling with ongoing domestic issues as well as international recognition.

Anyway, this whole issue will depend on what Turkey and the wests ambassador in the region (read: Israel) decide to do in the long term. The Greek are being used, just like we've been used numerous times - and they're aware.

 

[dBSPL]

Instead of begging for second-hand frigates from France (of course we are discussing hypothetically, not on the agenda), private shipyards should be given the opportunity to produce indigenous corvettes which is can respond to the unique needs of TN. As an example Dearsan has achieved considerable success in the Caspian Sea countries as continuation of Tuzla boats, this experience should be used in line with the needs of the country.

Frigate/Destroyer production is a completely another class of expertise. However, in order for private shipyards that have accumulated considerable experience in the military field to have this capacity in the future, the SSB and the navy must take courageous steps.

Both the aging navy and the expansion of the navy's impact area , impose an alternative program which is walk on its own way, other than the MILGEM programs.In this context, OPV boats and light but well-equipped combat ships in the corvette class can be a solid start.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Instead of begging for second-hand frigates from France (of course we are discussing hypothetically, not on the agenda), private shipyards should be given the opportunity to produce indigenous corvettes which is can respond to the unique needs of TN. As an example Dearsan has achieved considerable success in the Caspian Sea countries as continuation of Tuzla boats, this experience should be used in line with the needs of the country.

Frigate/Destroyer production is a completely another class of expertise. However, in order for private shipyards that have accumulated considerable experience in the military field to have this capacity in the future, the SSB and the navy must take courageous steps.

Both the aging navy and the expansion of the navy's impact area , impose an alternative program which is walk on its own way, other than the MILGEM programs.In this context, OPV boats and light but well-equipped combat ships in the corvette class can be a solid start.

I almost lost hope in some threads around here... at the lvl of "Submission" and "accommodation" of some
Thank you, Keep the good word/work.

 

[Bogeyman]

I need money for all of this. We can only get the money from Qatar. If they want mass production, Qatar will take the tender. (Not necessarily a BMC. A consortium solves the whole issue.) There are not many options. You will receive external partner if you want mass production at affordable cost.

 

[Dante80]

That's will be fake news ok. But that kind of scenario will be real in the feature. Just because that kind of aircraft will be comes from high altitude and fire his missile clearly to our frigate. Just because essm is have a really low max altitude.

We must have stop-gap air defence frigate and that kind of ships must will be operational on his attack range. That will be what kind of stop-gap ? I have 3 option. Less Logical to Most ;

1- Buying second hend la fayette from frenchs and modernize him with 48 vls with aster 15/30 and smart-l etc. This is very hard for macron and political issues.

2- Modernize barbaros class +8 vls (for the behalf of front ciws for essm and aft 16 vls for long range) + çafrad-lite s band (300 km) + aselsan akr-d block-2 and add him siper lrad or aster-30 or 9M96E2 missile.

3- Modernize İ class frigate with çafrad-lite s band (300 km) + aselsan akr-d block-2 and add him more 16 vls and integrate him siper lrad or aster-30 or 9M96E2 missile. He have enough capability for him.

As the Falklands War has shown, the idea for using a weapon like the AM39 is to keep the launcher as low as possible. This suppresses the practical effective range of the weapon but also renders reaction and interception times extremely tighter.

The effect is accentuated by the unique geographical characteristics in the Aegean Sea. In a time of military crisis, the Archipelago will become a literal electronic soup due to ESM/ECM, as well as a pretty frustrating experience for any sensor operator due to the abundance of blind spots provided by the thousands of islands, islets and rocks. Under certain circumstances, this plays well to the aggressor role in ASuW warfare, and the 331 and 332 Squadrons in Tanagra have done some extensive training over the years for this mission type using a Lo-Lo-Lo profile.

Naval point or area defense capabilities are a given per-requisite for defense in the Archipelago, but I think that the future is really in integrating CEC (Cooperative Engagement Capability) throughout the whole fleet. Turkey is in an advantageous position to move in on this hard, due to the fact that there has been a lot of progress done already in indigenous CMS like GENESIS and its successors. So dissimilar sensor fusion, integration and networking is the next step forward, utilizing both naval units and air assets (like helis or UAVs). This is already happening to a point.

 

[Secret Service]

i listened to Erdugan last night on TRT, his views on oil and gas exploration projects. he is a visionary leader and i think after 100 years, there is an opportunity where Turkey surely going to be self sufficient nation.