Turkish MILGEM corvette arrives in Pakistan amid talks of potential export

[The Eagle]

Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Muhammad Zakaullah visited Turkish Navy Ship TCG BUYUKADA at Karachi, today. During his visit onboard, the Naval Chief held detailed discussion on professional matters with Turkish Mission Commander and appreciated the operational competence of the Turkish Navy.

The Naval Chief said that Pak-Turk friendship is highly valued and the strong momentum of cooperation between them has always proved to be a source of strength for both the countries. The Naval Chief interacted with the officers and crew onboard TCG BUYUKADA. The Admiral was also briefed about the details of the joint exercises to be conducted by PN and visiting Turkish ship out at sea. During the visit high officials of Turkish Embassy were also present.

The visit of TCG BUYUKADA will further enhance the defence ties and maritime collaboration between the two brotherly countries.

 

[Neptune]

I hope we go for Istanbul Class Frigates with MK 41 VLS system

Question is, what will you plan to employ VLS' with? ESSM, SM-1? Congress approval? Or maybe when the time comes Hisar's naval variants would be ready who knows...

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Question is, what will you plan to employ VLS' with? ESSM, SM-1? Congress approval? Or maybe when the time comes Hisar's naval variants would be ready who knows...

I believe the MBDA CAMM or Aster-15 could be options.

 

[Blue Marlin]

I believe the MBDA CAMM or Aster-15 could be options.

but what about the south africain vls? also what about a block1 aster 30? we dont know the length of the vls. looking at the missiles your choosing here id say your assuming it at 3.5 meters deep for the vls. but im thinking more like 5 meters for the sm-2

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

but what about the south africain vls? also what about a block1 aster 30? we dont know the length of the vls. looking at the missiles your choosing here id say your assuming it at 3.5 meters deep for the vls. but im thinking more like 5 meters for the sm-2

The Umkhonto EIR (35km+) is in development, but no ETA as to when it would be ready for sale. Cutting ahead to a LR-SAM such as the Aster 30 isn't a bad idea. IIRC Qatar opted to configure its Fincatieri 3,000-ton 'corvettes' with Aster-30.

 

[Blue Marlin]

The Umkhonto EIR (35km+) is in development, but no ETA as to when it would be ready for sale. Cutting ahead to a LR-SAM such as the Aster 30 isn't a bad idea. IIRC Qatar opted to configure its Fincatieri 3,000-ton 'corvettes' with Aster-30.

but how do you even know when or if pakistan is going to buy the tf-100 heck they may go the for the corvette and focus on anti sub warfare like what the milgem is. as for time frames i dont think there that far off and if you think about it its actually good timing.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

but how do you even know when or if pakistan is going to buy the tf-100 heck they may go the for the corvette and focus on anti sub warfare like what the milgem is. as for time frames i dont think there that far off and if you think about it its actually good timing.

I don't know if they will, but the structural difference between the Ada class corvette and I-class frigate is relatively minimal. The Navy has been crowing for new frigates, and the littoral patrol role was handed to the Azmat class boats, which were bought when the MILGEM corvette deal first fell through.

 

[Blue Marlin]

I don't know if they will, but the structural difference between the Ada class corvette and I-class frigate is relatively minimal. The Navy has been crowing for new frigates, and the littoral patrol role was handed to the Azmat class boats, which were bought when the MILGEM corvette deal first fell through.

indeed the differences are minimal but do you think they'd go for it? or will got for it.

 

[ali_raza]

Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Muhammad Zakaullah visited Turkish Navy Ship TCG BUYUKADA at Karachi, today. During his visit onboard, the Naval Chief held detailed discussion on professional matters with Turkish Mission Commander and appreciated the operational competence of the Turkish Navy.

The Naval Chief said that Pak-Turk friendship is highly valued and the strong momentum of cooperation between them has always proved to be a source of strength for both the countries. The Naval Chief interacted with the officers and crew onboard TCG BUYUKADA. The Admiral was also briefed about the details of the joint exercises to be conducted by PN and visiting Turkish ship out at sea. During the visit high officials of Turkish Embassy were also present.

The visit of TCG BUYUKADA will further enhance the defence ties and maritime collaboration between the two brotherly countries.

turkish sailors are soo well dressed.and well mannered too mashallah true brother

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

indeed the differences are minimal but do you think they'd go for it? or will got for it.

I think there is a fair chance. The MILGEMs were sought in the late 2000s for littoral defence and general peacetime duties, but that role was given to the Azmat-class. No point in getting a larger littoral defence vessel now, even though it comes with ASW. If the PN is interested in a 2,000+ ton vessel, it'll likely be a proper AAW capable one.

 

[iby32]

You dont need destroyers(the costs),the AIP subs will be enough.

We do need destroyers for area air defence and cary long range antiship missilesto deny blockade of our see lanes or deny indian dreams of naval blockade of karachi cheers

 

[T-123456]

We do need destroyers for area air defence and cary long range antiship missilesto deny blockade of our see lanes or deny indian dreams of naval blockade of karachi cheers

ok.

 

[AUz]

4 Ada class corvette ( 3 on sea, 4th on construction)
4 + 4 istanbul class frigate
4 Tf-2000 AAW destroyer

Any plans to further indigenize Turkish naval ships with having Turkish onboard radars, combat systems, and weapons package (including AAMs, surface attack missiles like harpoons etc?)

In the long run, Turks should aim to develop even the engine required for massive ships and aircrafts.

 

[Penguin]

Question is, what will you plan to employ VLS' with? ESSM, SM-1? Congress approval? Or maybe when the time comes Hisar's naval variants would be ready who knows...

but what about the south africain vls? also what about a block1 aster 30? we dont know the length of the vls. looking at the missiles your choosing here id say your assuming it at 3.5 meters deep for the vls. but im thinking more like 5 meters for the sm-2

MK-41 VLS comes in strike, tactical and self-defence versions, with different lengths: 7.6m, 6.8m, 5.3m).

L to R: SM3, THAAD, TLAM, JASSM, SLAM-ER, SM4 (LASM), Polythem, SM2ER/SM6, SM2, Aster 30, Aster 15, RIM-7, ESSM, VL-ASROC

Sylver comes in 4 lengths (7m, 5m, 4.3m and 3.5m)

 

[Neptune]

MK-41 VLS comes in strike, tactical and self-defence versions, with different lengths: 7.6m, 6.8m, 5.3m).

L to R: SM3, THAAD, TLAM, JASSM, SLAM-ER, SM4 (LASM), Polythem, SM2ER/SM6, SM2, Aster 30, Aster 15, RIM-7, ESSM, VL-ASROC

Sylver comes in 4 lengths (7m, 5m, 4.3m and 3.5m)

Meh I think I made you misunderstood my point. People always refer to have a VLS deployed but rather not specify the missile as Mk41 can employ various types of munitions ranging from VL-ASROC, Tomahawk to SAM missiles. Secondly I don't know the state of US relationship with Pakistan that may eventually lead to a blockade to prevent the platform sale.