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why should you care than about ottoman killings of arabs? or did you inherit the western hypocrisy from your mother side?
I don't, I'm simply stating that the Ottoman empire wasn't any better than the Westerners like many people try to say. Bro my mom is technically "white" but I'm less European than you genetically.
 
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Their population is growing, why should I care about the past?

Iraq was destroyed by the US and the UK ... also Iran in Iraq .... and shia Iraqis- Kurds welcomed Invasion of Iraq in 1991

Iraqis are so poor and fighting eachothers and christian countries have started milking Iraqi oil reserves after SADDAM ..... even TRUMP said that the US will take 1,5 trillion from Iraq (Iraqi people)


same game in Libya , in 2011 bandit France bombed Libya and after QADDAFI , Libya was become one of the most dangerous counntry in the world to live as like Afghanistan,Iraq,Syria,Yemen

France-Russia are trying to control oil fields in Libya .......
 
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I don't, I'm simply stating that the Ottoman empire wasn't any better than the Westerners like many people try to say. Bro my mom is technically "white" but I'm less European than you genetically.

lol

its talking against windmills.. its like saying omar, nureddin, selahaddin was not better than the westerners or any other islamic ruler..
 
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its talking against windmills.. its like saying omar, nureddin, selahaddin was not better than the westerners or any other islamic ruler..
Thats not the point, many mainly non-Turkish members try to make the Ottoman empire was some utopia. The Arab revolt was because of many reasons, not just a non-Arab ruling over an Arab country.

even the Uae bought Turkish weapons ..... even I am not talking about other Arab countries Qatar,Tunis,Jordan,Kuwait,etc
Yeah? You have access to NATO technology.
 
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Thats not the point, many mainly non-Turkish members try to make the Ottoman empire was some utopia. The Arab revolt was because of many reasons, not just a non-Arab ruling over an Arab country.


Yeah? You have access to NATO technology.

nationalism and tribalism together with ignorance was the problem.. but now their children get the revard for that..
 
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nationalism and tribalism together with ignorance was the problem.. but now their children get the revard for that..
Nope, one problem was trying to Turkify Arab lands, and letting soldiers run free and rape people, loot people, etc.
 
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lol

its talking against windmills.. its like saying omar, nureddin, selahaddin was not better than the westerners or any other islamic ruler..
Dude you must realize one thing, there is no muslim brotherhood.
Even here you can see how the arch enemies iranians and arabs would take stance against turks together.
The thing is turks arrived the region later and will always be "the aliens" to them and for that reason you can expect them to collaborate with anyone when its about turks.
This is a simple fact that every turk must understand and act accordingly, we neither need their friendship nor brotherhood.
Just do business and get the money everythign else is not important. They sit on shit ton of money but have no brains to use it, we should be exploiting that like americans and europeans do yet we have a FP based on emotions that costs us billion.
 
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Nope, one problem was trying to Turkify Arab lands, and letting soldiers run free and rape people, loot people, etc.


thats what lawrence told you.. these arguments are used everywhere to justify a position..

turks didnt turkify arabs nor did they try.. this argument shows great ignorance und the truth about intentions we could have easily wiped them off the map if we wanted to.. but we didnt do it with the balkans they still are what they had been before they speak their language and belive what they want.. this also counts for greeks in 500 years we could have destroyed them and no one would be speaking greek or be orthodox christian!

unlike that what happens today in arab lands we turks didnt do this stuff.. you guys are now forcing people into belive, destroying their culture and language, and using force in different ways.. all this

The thing is turks arrived the region later and will always be "the aliens" to them and for that reason you can expect them to collaborate with anyone when its about turks.
This is a simple fact that every turk must understand and act accordingly, we neither need their friendship nor brotherhood.

I am aware of that.. you can easily include pakistanis or others in this I dont trust them either specially because of their economical bindings towards these gulf states and other arguments.. we turks have only turks as friends..
 
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I am aware of that.. you can easily include pakistanis or others in this I dont trust them either specially because of their economical bindings towards these gulf states and other arguments.. we turks have only turks as friends..
Tbh, i wouldnt exactly include pakistan it it though, sure it would pick china over turkey any das but they have good reasons to do so.
But otherwise i wont expect it to act against turkey at all, if anything then they would support us or stay silent which is good enough.
 
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thats what lawrence told you.. these arguments are used everywhere to justify a position..

turks didnt turkify arabs nor did they try.. this argument shows great ignorance und the truth about intentions we could have easily wiped them off the map if we wanted to.. but we didnt do it with the balkans they still are what they had been before they speak their language and belive what they want.. this also counts for greeks in 500 years we could have destroyed them and no one would be speaking greek or be orthodox christian!

unlike that what happens today in arab lands we turks didnt do this stuff.. you guys are now forcing people into belive, destroying their culture and language, and using force in different ways.. all this
Bro the issue of a non-Arab leader ruling over an Arab leader is enough cause for a revolution of a failed empire.
 
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Thats not the point, many mainly non-Turkish members try to make the Ottoman empire was some utopia. The Arab revolt was because of many reasons, not just a non-Arab ruling over an Arab country.


Yeah? You have access to NATO technology.

lol... there is no such thing as NATO technology. There is USA and a few other developed militaries and they dont hand out- oh there you go lets give you some technology go and make yourself a f-35 or euro fighter. If that was the case then every nato country would be producing fifth gen fighters. Nobody gives you anything.

You actually believe in muslim or christian brotherhood? You are more a fool than I ever thought, and your traitor ErDOGan is one of the biggest joker fools I have seen before.


Lol, France and Egypt are no longer colonial countries, and what milking are you fucking talking about? Some weird myths you come up with?

BP, French Total, Shell etc milked all those countries for tens of years. Either your stupid or dont know.
 
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