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"A fierce race is underway in the Red Sea, with various countries gunning for military bases along its shores, while carving out pockets of political and economic influence. Iran presently controls the strategic Al Hodeida port of Yemen, via its proxy Al Houthi militias, posing a direct threat to Saudi Arabia. Last October, Turkey established a military base in Somalia, months after deploying nearly 5,000 troops in Qatar — which, although not on the Red Sea, is being used by Iran to pressurise Saudi Arabia.

This week, Ankara was given full-rights to rehabilitate the port island/town of Suakin in northeastern Sudan, with a naval dock for both civilian and military vessels on the west coast of the Red Sea. In addition to rebuilding the now abandoned inland ghost town of Suakin, the Turkish government will also resurrect the former Ottoman port as a historic transit point for pilgrims crossing the Red Sea to Makkah, given its proximity to the Saudi port city of Jeddah.

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The controversial agreement was reached by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan with his Sudanese counterpart Omar Al Bashir during a summit in Khartoum earlier this week. Turkish state media said this would be part of a broader agreement between the two countries, worth $650 million — money that Turkey presently does not have. The real source of the funds is probably Qatar. In addition to a military base, Ankara plans to build a new airport in Khartoum, and to invest in cotton production, electricity generation, and grain silos. Bashir and Erdogan promised to boost bilateral trade to reach $10 billion.

The new base is problematic for several countries overlooking the Red Sea. Given its proximity to Suakin, Saudi Arabia is first to worry, mainly because of Erdogan’s open alliance with Iran, cemented at the Black Sea resort of Sochi this December. The Iranians can now use the new Turkish base in Sudan to send more arms and equipment to Al Houthis, while Turkey can use its newfound military presence to send more troops to Qatar, or meddle further in the affairs of Egypt, through the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, which remains firmly allied to Ankara and Doha. Along with Egypt, this undoubtedly worries Jordan, too. Egypt has its own territorial disputes with Sudan, over the Halaib Triangle on the Red Sea. Since Sudan’s independence in 1956, both Cairo and Khartoum have claimed sovereignty over this area, with Egypt deploying military units there since the 1990s, aimed at preventing any Sudanese adventurism. With Turkish/Iranian instigation, Sudanese ambitions might get awakened over the Halaib Triangle.

Countering the Iranian/Turkish threat are other bases that are quickly sprouting along the Red Sea. The Saudi-backed forces of Yemeni President Abd Rabbo Mansour Hadi still control Bab Al Mandeb and Aden, while Egypt and Jordan control the gulfs of Suez and Aqaba, serving as a strong deterrent.


Such bases are a novelty on the international arena, given that throughout the Cold War, only the two superpowers had military bases outside their territory across the world.

What makes the Turkish-Iranian presence all the more worrying for Saudi Arabia is the lack of US presence in the Red Sea. True, US ships sail daily through the Red Sea, but there is no permanent presence of the US Navy there, like that of the 5th Fleet in the Gulf or the 6th Fleet in the Mediterranean. Instead, China recently set up a permanent base, with a military complex, in Djibouti, being the first of its kind in the Horn of Africa."

Turkish base in Sudan a problem for Arab powers

You can find that much of bullsh*t only with Gulf News lol
 
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Saudis and Egypt are scared of a tiny base off there shores, the Saudi and Arab trolls here claim they can invade Turkey and Iran lol jokes aside Turkish works in Africa are a threat to the Arab world because they actually work, Somalia for example and soon Sudan, Suakin. Turkey funds real development and oversees it, GCC funds internal conflict and fighting rivals against each other or whoever will do the bidding.

Egypt is being propped up by Saudis and should have been bankrupt long ago, they have bigger problems which will hit home soon as Ethiopia finishes its dam on the Nile. Sudan and Ethiopia have agreed to jointly defend it.

Saudis, can buy all the military equipment in the world they have no one to use them, they backed off from tiny Qatar after a couple thousand Turkish troops were stationed there lol.

This is only the beginning, if nothing goes wrong expect more Turkish presence in and around the Arab world, Saudi, UAE and Egypt can cry rivers.
 
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You can find that much of bullsh*t only with Gulf News lol

Indeed. So I take it you're agreeing that it is a bunch of BS?
Let's pick it apart.

Turkish state media said this would be part of a broader agreement between the two countries, worth $650 million — money that Turkey presently does not have.

lol. Turkey doesn't have a measly $650 million? Yeah, ok.

Given its proximity to Suakin, Saudi Arabia is first to worry, mainly because of Erdogan’s open alliance with Iran,

Turkey has an open alliance with Iran? What about Turkey/Saudi relations and military cooperation? That's thrown out the door?

The Iranians can now use the new Turkish base in Sudan to send more arms and equipment to Al Houthis, while Turkey can use its newfound military presence to send more troops to Qatar,

looooool. So Turkey will allow Iran to purposely supply the Houthies to piss off Saudi Arabia? Where's the benefit to Turkey in that? Nothing could be more stupid.

And the logistics of sending troops to Qatar from Sudan is brilliant! Nothing like taking the really long route.

or meddle further in the affairs of Egypt, through the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood,

So what's your view on this? Is Turkey meddling in Egypt's internal affairs by supporting the MB or not? Do Turks acknowledge that or deny it?

Egypt is being propped up by Saudis and should have been bankrupt long ago, they have bigger problems which will hit home soon as Ethiopia finishes its dam on the Nile. Sudan and Ethiopia have agreed to jointly defend it.

Jee wiz, sounds like you actually wish for that to happen. How nice and noble of you. BTW, your ignorance of Egypt's economic status is not surprising.

This is only the beginning, if nothing goes wrong expect more Turkish presence in and around the Arab world, Saudi, UAE and Egypt can cry rivers.

Unbelievable. And you wonder why there's tension between us. Are you really that bugged that there was a coup and that Morsi along with the MB were ousted? Does that really bother you that much that you need to make enemies out of us instead of deescalating tensions over such an unnecessary and unproductive and worthless alliance with a fundamentalist Islamic group? Or is it because without them, you have almost 0 influence in Egypt? TBH, I think it's a shame that Erdogan chose that route instead of being supportive for what was certainly a better option for Egypt and the Egyptian people and could've been a much better and stronger friendship and alliance. None of that was instigated by Egypt.

Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia... Turks are settling in with investments, Horn of Africa will become very profitable.

And frankly there is nothing wrong with that. It's once the motives become counter to the strategic security of the major countries in that area that it becomes risky and dangerous. But as long as it's a harmless little port and some new construction and the intent is economical, there shouldn't be any issues with it.
 
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Saudis and Egypt are scared of a tiny base off there shores, the Saudi and Arab trolls here claim they can invade Turkey and Iran lol jokes aside Turkish works in Africa are a threat to the Arab world because they actually work, Somalia for example and soon Sudan, Suakin. Turkey funds real development and oversees it, GCC funds internal conflict and fighting rivals against each other or whoever will do the bidding.

Egypt is being propped up by Saudis and should have been bankrupt long ago, they have bigger problems which will hit home soon as Ethiopia finishes its dam on the Nile. Sudan and Ethiopia have agreed to jointly defend it.

Saudis, can buy all the military equipment in the world they have no one to use them, they backed off from tiny Qatar after a couple thousand Turkish troops were stationed there lol.

This is only the beginning, if nothing goes wrong expect more Turkish presence in and around the Arab world, Saudi, UAE and Egypt can cry rivers.
Wow, there is no one to use the weapons in KSA..
KSA backed out of Qatar after Turkey sent a couple thousand troops
Egypt should have been bankrupt.. (Erdogan wishful thinking!?)
We are so scared of Turks!?

This is the least to say a very BSSSSSS post.. based on too much ignorance..
 
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Very interesting to see Turkey involved in Africa, Somalia was a success.
 
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Jee wiz, sounds like you actually wish for that to happen. How nice and noble of you. BTW, your ignorance of Egypt's economic status is not surprising.

Your right none of us none Arabs do, that’s why Sisi has to win a fraudulent election begging people to the pole, your people are in poverty and you continue living on handouts and bidding of other states while half your population still get bread rations.

As for the rest of your off topic rant about the Muslim brotherhood I dont give a shit, when Egypt stops doing the bidding of Saudi Arabia we can discuss good terms.

You Arab trolls here are funny, promote democracy and freedoms in Iran while supporting your dictators lol.

Your inconsistent like your foreign policy, history and economy.

Wow, there is no one to use the weapons in KSA..
KSA backed out of Qatar after Turkey sent a couple thousand troops
Egypt should have been bankrupt.. (Erdogan wishful thinking!?)
We are so scared of Turks!?

This is the least to say a very BSSSSSS post.. based on too much ignorance..

Your a known bs Arab troll here, the moment Egypt and Saudi fall out you will be barking how bad Egypt and SISI is.

Yes Saudis wanted the Turkish base out, couldn’t get it, you have to live with it and cry a river somewhere else.
 
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Wow, there is no one to use the weapons in KSA..
KSA backed out of Qatar after Turkey sent a couple thousand troops
Egypt should have been bankrupt.. (Erdogan wishful thinking!?)
We are so scared of Turks!?

This is the least to say a very BSSSSSS post.. based on too much ignorance..
Its important what do we hear from the "Arab" League not from you. According to them we are doing a pretty good job in the Arabic world. My heart becomes happy when I hear that we are working for the prosperity of people that were put down by their big brothers. You will always have complex from Turks and we will always think of you as traitors. Not only to the Ottoman Empire but also to your fellow brothers. Instead building the biggest stadium on the world in Iraq you could've give the money for universities, hospitals or something more important but no... You prefer to build luxury instead security and progress. Shame on you! The richest countries in the world building luxury and their aid for the reconstruction of the country is not exceeding the Turkish aid of 5 billions $. This is Erdogan's wishful thinking. He is thinking for the people that you should think first.
 
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Sorry but this article is ughhh:-
1)the Arab powers want everyone surrounding them to be their vessels ( little submissive proxy to their desire )
2) they think that Turkey is in Sudan for them while in fact turkey is in Sudan for both Sudanese and turkish interests
3) not once did turkey show hostile attitude towards Arabs but because it's growing power which threaten the Arabs dominance they see it as an enemy

Finally bro Turkey has the funds everyone thinks wrong of turkish economy well news flash
The number one strength turkey has is it's economy second is it's army ( that's why both west and the gulf are ever more worried )
 
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Its important what do we hear from the "Arab" League not from you. According to them we are doing a pretty good job in the Arabic world. My heart becomes happy when I hear that we are working for the prosperity of people that were put down by their big brothers. You will always have complex from Turks and we will always think of you as traitors. Not only to the Ottoman Empire but also to your fellow brothers. Instead building the biggest stadium on the world in Iraq you could've give the money for universities, hospitals or something more important but no... You prefer to build luxury instead security and progress. Shame on you! The richest countries in the world building luxury and their aid for the reconstruction of the country is not exceeding the Turkish aid of 5 billions $. This is Erdogan's wishful thinking. He is thinking for the people that you should think first.
An incredible Turkish proverb for you, to explain the situation with today's sheikhdom's, kingdom's, emirate's:

“Arap yağı bol bulunca kıçına sürermiş”

  • Literal translation: “When an Arabian has too much oil, he will rub it on his behind”
  • Meaning: “Oil” here means something valuable. When an uneducated person has great wealth, he will use it distastefully (like Nouveau riche).
 
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An incredible Turkish proverb for you, to explain the situation with today's sheikhdom's, kingdom's, emirate's:

“Arap yağı bol bulunca kıçına sürermiş”

  • Literal translation: “When an Arabian has too much oil, he will rub it on his behind”
  • Meaning: “Oil” here means something valuable. When an uneducated person has great wealth, he will use it distastefully (like Nouveau riche).

:enjoy:
 
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