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Yes There are two different projects proceeding simultaneously.
1: T-70 (Turkish licenced variant of Skorsky S-70)
-Impressive industrial partnership will be done.
-Aselsan will equip own avionic design and systems for T-70.
-Aftersale and maintenance services will be done by TAI.
-Engines will be manufactured by TEI and will be named with TEI name at export markets.
-From landing gears to transmission, rotor fuselage will be manufactured by Turkish industry.
-Turkey will manufacture 109 T-70 for Turkish Army. Acc to agreement to be signed, Each one T-70 helicopter to be manufactured for domestic market will clear the way of exporting 1 T-70 for 3th countries. It means TAI has rights to export 109 helicopter for ally countries as well.
Attention to engine name: T700-TEI-701D. This code name is used for export markets.
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2. TUHP (Domestic 5 tonnes helicopter design/development program)
-650 million $ design/development budget
-3 crew + 9 troop : 12 persons
-TAI will apply the expertise gained from T-129 Atak, AW-139, T-70 programs.
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-650 million $ design/development budget
-3 crew + 9 troop : 12 persons
-TAI will apply the expertise gained from T-129 Atak, AW-139, T-70 programs.
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Turkey’s critical choice: An engine for the fighter or vice versa?
As Turkey makes progress in its national fighter jet program, the most challenging issue remains the engine for the planned aircraft. The program contains the design, development and production of an indigenious fighter jet as Swdish Saab is under contract for pre-conceptual design
As Turkey’s defense procurement officials and aviation engineers work day and night to finalize one of the three draft models for what will be the country’s first indigenous fighter jet, they face a most critical challenge: Should Turkey select a jet engine and build an aircraft based on that engine; or should it select an aircraft and then look for the suitable engine?
“The critical issue is the engine. Should we select an engine and design our aircraft in line with that engine, or should we design the aircraft and select the appropriate engine afterwards? This is the main challenge in the program,” said Murad Bayar, Turkey’s chief defense procurement official and head of Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM).
For the highly ambitious fighter jet program, dubbed TF-X, Turkey has been receiving ‘mentoring’ from Sweden’s Saab, maker of the JAS 39 Gripen. “We are content with Saab’s services,” Bayar said.
The Turkish program involves the design, development and production of a “national” fighter jet, and Saab has been under contract for “pre-conceptual design work.”
“We aim to make a decision on the engine in December or January,” Bayar said. “But alternatively, we may decide to work on this a bit more.”
He said that Turkey would choose between European and U.S. engine manufacturers. “In terms of thrust and overall performance, U.S. options come closer to the specifications we have in our mind,” Bayar said.
Three draft models
Ankara has already drafted three models, one of which will likely become its first indigenous fighter.
Saab has been assisting TF-X under a deal that oversees “pre-conceptual design” for
the program.
Saab produces the JAS 39 Gripen, a lightweight, single-engine multirole fighter. The Swedish company has cooperated with other aerospace manufacturers to market the JAS 39 Gripen, but has achieved
only moderate success in Central Europe, South Africa and Southeast Asia. More than
240 Gripens have been delivered or ordered.
In 2010, Saab won a four-year contract from the Swedish government to improve the
Gripen’s equipment, integrate new weapons and lower operating costs. In August 2012, Sweden announced it planned to buy 40 to 60 Gripen NGs. The Swedish order followed Switzerland’s decision to buy 22 E/F variants of the jet.
Turkey aims at a maiden flight for its own fighter aircraft in 2013, the centennial of the country’s foundation. Officials aim at production to commence in 2021, and deliveries to the Air Force are planned between 2025 and 2035. The aircraft is expected to remain in service until 2060.
For its national fighter program, Turkey hopes to copy the method devised to co-produce T-129 attack helicopters with Italian-British AgustaWestland.
October/22/2013
Turkeys critical choice: An engine for the fighter or vice versa?
As Turkey makes progress in its national fighter jet program, the most challenging issue remains the engine for the planned aircraft. The program contains the design, development and production of an indigenious fighter jet as Swdish Saab is under contract for pre-conceptual design
As Turkeys defense procurement officials and aviation engineers work day and night to finalize one of the three draft models for what will be the countrys first indigenous fighter jet, they face a most critical challenge: Should Turkey select a jet engine and build an aircraft based on that engine; or should it select an aircraft and then look for the suitable engine?
The critical issue is the engine. Should we select an engine and design our aircraft in line with that engine, or should we design the aircraft and select the appropriate engine afterwards? This is the main challenge in the program, said Murad Bayar, Turkeys chief defense procurement official and head of Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM).
For the highly ambitious fighter jet program, dubbed TF-X, Turkey has been receiving mentoring from Swedens Saab, maker of the JAS 39 Gripen. We are content with Saabs services, Bayar said.
The Turkish program involves the design, development and production of a national fighter jet, and Saab has been under contract for pre-conceptual design work.
We aim to make a decision on the engine in December or January, Bayar said. But alternatively, we may decide to work on this a bit more.
He said that Turkey would choose between European and U.S. engine manufacturers. In terms of thrust and overall performance, U.S. options come closer to the specifications we have in our mind, Bayar said.
Three draft models
Ankara has already drafted three models, one of which will likely become its first indigenous fighter.
Saab has been assisting TF-X under a deal that oversees pre-conceptual design for
the program.
Saab produces the JAS 39 Gripen, a lightweight, single-engine multirole fighter. The Swedish company has cooperated with other aerospace manufacturers to market the JAS 39 Gripen, but has achieved
only moderate success in Central Europe, South Africa and Southeast Asia. More than
240 Gripens have been delivered or ordered.
In 2010, Saab won a four-year contract from the Swedish government to improve the
Gripens equipment, integrate new weapons and lower operating costs. In August 2012, Sweden announced it planned to buy 40 to 60 Gripen NGs. The Swedish order followed Switzerlands decision to buy 22 E/F variants of the jet.
Turkey aims at a maiden flight for its own fighter aircraft in 2013, the centennial of the countrys foundation. Officials aim at production to commence in 2021, and deliveries to the Air Force are planned between 2025 and 2035. The aircraft is expected to remain in service until 2060.
For its national fighter program, Turkey hopes to copy the method devised to co-produce T-129 attack helicopters with Italian-British AgustaWestland.
October/22/2013
As Turkey makes progress in its national fighter jet program, the most challenging issue remains the engine for the planned aircraft. The program contains the design, development and production of an indigenious fighter jet as Swdish Saab is under contract for pre-conceptual design
As Turkey’s defense procurement officials and aviation engineers work day and night to finalize one of the three draft models for what will be the country’s first indigenous fighter jet, they face a most critical challenge: Should Turkey select a jet engine and build an aircraft based on that engine; or should it select an aircraft and then look for the suitable engine?
“The critical issue is the engine. Should we select an engine and design our aircraft in line with that engine, or should we design the aircraft and select the appropriate engine afterwards? This is the main challenge in the program,” said Murad Bayar, Turkey’s chief defense procurement official and head of Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM).
For the highly ambitious fighter jet program, dubbed TF-X, Turkey has been receiving ‘mentoring’ from Sweden’s Saab, maker of the JAS 39 Gripen. “We are content with Saab’s services,” Bayar said.
The Turkish program involves the design, development and production of a “national” fighter jet, and Saab has been under contract for “pre-conceptual design work.”
“We aim to make a decision on the engine in December or January,” Bayar said. “But alternatively, we may decide to work on this a bit more.”
He said that Turkey would choose between European and U.S. engine manufacturers. “In terms of thrust and overall performance, U.S. options come closer to the specifications we have in our mind,” Bayar said.
Three draft models
Ankara has already drafted three models, one of which will likely become its first indigenous fighter.
Saab has been assisting TF-X under a deal that oversees “pre-conceptual design” for
the program.
Saab produces the JAS 39 Gripen, a lightweight, single-engine multirole fighter. The Swedish company has cooperated with other aerospace manufacturers to market the JAS 39 Gripen, but has achieved
only moderate success in Central Europe, South Africa and Southeast Asia. More than
240 Gripens have been delivered or ordered.
In 2010, Saab won a four-year contract from the Swedish government to improve the
Gripen’s equipment, integrate new weapons and lower operating costs. In August 2012, Sweden announced it planned to buy 40 to 60 Gripen NGs. The Swedish order followed Switzerland’s decision to buy 22 E/F variants of the jet.
Turkey aims at a maiden flight for its own fighter aircraft in 2013, the centennial of the country’s foundation. Officials aim at production to commence in 2021, and deliveries to the Air Force are planned between 2025 and 2035. The aircraft is expected to remain in service until 2060.
For its national fighter program, Turkey hopes to copy the method devised to co-produce T-129 attack helicopters with Italian-British AgustaWestland.
October/22/2013
Turkeys critical choice: An engine for the fighter or vice versa?
As Turkey makes progress in its national fighter jet program, the most challenging issue remains the engine for the planned aircraft. The program contains the design, development and production of an indigenious fighter jet as Swdish Saab is under contract for pre-conceptual design
As Turkeys defense procurement officials and aviation engineers work day and night to finalize one of the three draft models for what will be the countrys first indigenous fighter jet, they face a most critical challenge: Should Turkey select a jet engine and build an aircraft based on that engine; or should it select an aircraft and then look for the suitable engine?
The critical issue is the engine. Should we select an engine and design our aircraft in line with that engine, or should we design the aircraft and select the appropriate engine afterwards? This is the main challenge in the program, said Murad Bayar, Turkeys chief defense procurement official and head of Undersecretariat for Defense Industries (SSM).
For the highly ambitious fighter jet program, dubbed TF-X, Turkey has been receiving mentoring from Swedens Saab, maker of the JAS 39 Gripen. We are content with Saabs services, Bayar said.
The Turkish program involves the design, development and production of a national fighter jet, and Saab has been under contract for pre-conceptual design work.
We aim to make a decision on the engine in December or January, Bayar said. But alternatively, we may decide to work on this a bit more.
He said that Turkey would choose between European and U.S. engine manufacturers. In terms of thrust and overall performance, U.S. options come closer to the specifications we have in our mind, Bayar said.
Three draft models
Ankara has already drafted three models, one of which will likely become its first indigenous fighter.
Saab has been assisting TF-X under a deal that oversees pre-conceptual design for
the program.
Saab produces the JAS 39 Gripen, a lightweight, single-engine multirole fighter. The Swedish company has cooperated with other aerospace manufacturers to market the JAS 39 Gripen, but has achieved
only moderate success in Central Europe, South Africa and Southeast Asia. More than
240 Gripens have been delivered or ordered.
In 2010, Saab won a four-year contract from the Swedish government to improve the
Gripens equipment, integrate new weapons and lower operating costs. In August 2012, Sweden announced it planned to buy 40 to 60 Gripen NGs. The Swedish order followed Switzerlands decision to buy 22 E/F variants of the jet.
Turkey aims at a maiden flight for its own fighter aircraft in 2013, the centennial of the countrys foundation. Officials aim at production to commence in 2021, and deliveries to the Air Force are planned between 2025 and 2035. The aircraft is expected to remain in service until 2060.
For its national fighter program, Turkey hopes to copy the method devised to co-produce T-129 attack helicopters with Italian-British AgustaWestland.
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Attention to engine name: T700-TEI-701D. This code name is used for export markets.
Two clear questions from me.
1-) Are we going to be able to export this Engine to 3rd countries without any US approval.
2-) Can this engine be fitted in T-129 as this will immediately solve exporting issues.
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With a new project addition to Erciyes project, C-130s will be Gunned. In the scope THK already talked to a foreign company has experience in C130 weapon integration.
http://kokpit.aero/c130-gun-ship-erciyes
Weapons on the table,
3omm GAU-23 Bushmaster
Griffin-A (AGM-176)
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SLAHLAR SOL TARAFTA
AC-130'da tüm silahlar uçan sol ksmnda bulunuyor. 1 adet 105 mm'lik M101 Haubica hafif obüs uçan en ar silah. Etkili menzili 7.500 metre, 40 mm Bofors L-70 topu, 25 mm GAU-25 ve 6 namlulu M61A1 Vulcan topu gibi silah sistemlerine sahip. Uçak modellerine göre silah sistemleri ile deitirilebiliyor. Uçakta bulunan GPS, INS, APQ-180 dijital at kontrol sistemi ve ALLTV (Alçak irtifa TV sistemi) her hava artnda gece ve gündüz, seyir ve at imkân vermekte. ABD Hava Kuvvetleri'nde aktif olarak 8 adet AC-130H Spectre , 17 adette AC-130U Spooky olmak üzere toplam 25 AC-130 Uça bulunuyor.
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So this means the Goren II project is cancelled? (Armed CN-295)
http://kokpit.aero/c130-gun-ship-erciyes
Weapons on the table,
3omm GAU-23 Bushmaster
Griffin-A (AGM-176)
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SLAHLAR SOL TARAFTA
AC-130'da tüm silahlar uçan sol ksmnda bulunuyor. 1 adet 105 mm'lik M101 Haubica hafif obüs uçan en ar silah. Etkili menzili 7.500 metre, 40 mm Bofors L-70 topu, 25 mm GAU-25 ve 6 namlulu M61A1 Vulcan topu gibi silah sistemlerine sahip. Uçak modellerine göre silah sistemleri ile deitirilebiliyor. Uçakta bulunan GPS, INS, APQ-180 dijital at kontrol sistemi ve ALLTV (Alçak irtifa TV sistemi) her hava artnda gece ve gündüz, seyir ve at imkân vermekte. ABD Hava Kuvvetleri'nde aktif olarak 8 adet AC-130H Spectre , 17 adette AC-130U Spooky olmak üzere toplam 25 AC-130 Uça bulunuyor.
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So this means the Goren II project is cancelled? (Armed CN-295)
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The next prototype is planed to fly during the first 1/4 of 2014.First photo of Hürkuş with landing gear closed.
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hope PAKISTAN will be 1st costumerYes There are two different projects proceeding simultaneously.
1: T-70 (Turkish licenced variant of Skorsky S-70)
-Impressive industrial partnership will be done.
-Aselsan will equip own avionic design and systems for T-70.
-Aftersale and maintenance services will be done by TAI.
-Engines will be manufactured by TEI and will be named with TEI name at export markets.
-From landing gears to transmission, rotor fuselage will be manufactured by Turkish industry.
-Turkey will manufacture 109 T-70 for Turkish Army. Acc to agreement to be signed, Each one T-70 helicopter to be manufactured for domestic market will clear the way of exporting 1 T-70 for 3th countries. It means TAI has rights to export 109 helicopter for ally countries as well.
Attention to engine name: T700-TEI-701D. This code name is used for export markets.
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