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Your still doing it. It only tells me that you are not even interested in comprehending the subjects you talk about.
 
Some informations about the Yurt- home of Eurasian nomads

A yurt is a portable, bent dwelling structure traditionally used by nomads in the steppes ofCentral Asia as their home. The structure comprises a crown or compression wheel, usually steam bent, supported by roof ribs which are bent down at the end where they meet the lattice wall (again, steam bent). The top of the wall is prevented from spreading by means of a tension band which opposes the force of the roof ribs. The structure is usually covered by layers of fabric and sheep's wool felt for insulation and weatherproofing.


Etymology and synonyms


A yurt in Shymkent, Kazakhstan, used as a café.
  • Yurt - originally from a Turkic word referring to the imprint left in the ground by a moved yurt, and by extension, sometimes a person's homeland, kinsmen, or feudal appanage. The term came to be used in reference to the physical tent-like dwellings only in other languages. In modern Turkish the word "yurt" is used as the synonym of homeland or a dormitory. In Russian the structure is called "yurta" (юрта), whence the word came into English.
  • гэр (transliterated: ger) - in Mongolian simply means "home".[1][2]
  • тирмә (transliterated: tirmä) is the Bashkir term for yurt.
  • киіз үй (transliterated: kïiz üy) - the Kazakh word, and means "felt house".
  • боз үй (transliterated: boz üy) - the Kyrgyz term is meaning "grey house", because of the color of the felt.
  • ak öý and gara öý - In Turkmen the term is both literally "white house" and "black house", depending on its luxury and elegance.
  • "Kherga"/"Jirga" - Afghans call them.
  • "Kheymah" (خیمه) is the word for a yurt or a tent like dwelling in Pakistan, from the Urdu (and Persian) :خیمه In Persian yurt is called chador (چادر), in Tajik the names are yurt, xona-i siyoh, xayma (юрт, хонаи сиёҳ, хайма).
History

Yurts have been a distinctive feature of life in Central Asia for at least three thousand years. The first written description of a yurt used as a dwelling was recorded by Herodotus, the 'father of history', who lived in Greece between 484 and 424 BC. He described yurt-like tents as the dwelling place of the Scythians, a horse riding-nomadic nation who lived in the northern Black Sea and Central Asian region from around 600 BC to AD 300. [3]

Construction


A Mongolian Ger
Traditional yurts consist of an expanding wooden circular frame carrying a felt cover. Thefelt is made from the wool of the flocks of sheep that accompany the pastoralists. Thetimber to make the external structure is not to be found on the treeless steppes, and must be obtained by trade in the valleys below.

The frame consists of one or more expanding lattice wall-sections, a door-frame, bent roof poles and a crown. The Mongolian Ger has one or more columns to support the crown and straight roof poles. The (self-supporting) wood frame is covered with pieces of felt. Depending on availability, the felt is additionally covered with canvas and/or sun-covers. The frame is held together with one or more ropes or ribbons. The structure is kept under compression by the weight of the covers, sometimes supplemented by a heavy weight hung from the center of the roof. They vary with different sizes, and relative weight.

A yurt is designed to be dismantled and the parts carried compactly on camels or yaks to be rebuilt on another site. Complete construction takes around 2 hours.


Decoration and symbolis

The traditional decoration within a yurt is primarily pattern based. These patterns are generally not according to taste, but are derived from sacred ornaments with certain symbolism. Symbols representing strength are among the most common, including the khas (swastika) and four powerful beasts (lion, tiger, garuda and dragon), as well as stylized representations of the five elements (fire, water, earth, metal, and wood), considered to be the fundamental, unchanging elements of the cosmos. Such patterns are commonly used in the home with the belief that they will bring strength and offer protection.

Repeating geometric patterns are also widely used. The most widespread geometric pattern is the continuous hammer or walking pattern (alkhan khee). Commonly used as a border decoration it represents unending strength and constant movement. Another common pattern is the ulzii which as a symbol of long life and happiness. The khamar ugalz (nose pattern) and ever ugalz (horn pattern) are derived from the shape of the animal's nose and horns, and are the oldest traditional patterns. All patterns can be found among not only the yurts themselves, but also on embroidery, furniture, books, clothing, doors, and other objects.[4]


Yurt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
It is a loss especially because im partly Karaim

Karaims are Jew in ethnicity. They adopted Turkic language. Similar to Armenians who lived under Crimean Khanate.

Crimean Tatars live/lived separated throughout the history from Çıfıt (Karaim), Armenians and Çingene (Gypsies).
 
Karaims are Jew in ethnicity. They adopted Turkic language. Similar to Armenians who lived under Crimean Khanate.
they are TURKS whom accept the jew as religion like khazars

ak öý and gara öý - In Turkmen the term is both literally "white house" and "black house", depending on its luxury and elegance.
again from wikipedia ?? this is wrong
 
they are TURKS whom accept the jew as religion like khazars

So do you count Kurds, who abandoned Kurdish language and adopted Turkic language, as TURKS!?

As I said, apart from talking a Turkic language, they share nothing with Crimean Tatars. Their history had nothing with Tatars. Tatars and Karaims lived in separated communities throughout the history. Those are often called Çıfıt.
 
i went to school during soviet era, so we learnt that "basmachi are bad, very bad" :D but after soviet collapse, that changed :)
lol like usual russian propaganda :lol:

So do you count Kurds, who abandoned Kurdish language and adopted Turkic language, as TURKS!?

As I said, apart from talking a Turkic language, they share nothing with Crimean Tatars. Their history had nothing with Tatars. Tatars and Karaims lived in separated communities throughout the history. Those are often called Çıfıt.
i wont continue this discussion with u :tdown:
 
i wont continue this discussion with u :tdown:

Why? Disappointed? :)

Or are you one of those who says anyone born in Turkey is Turk?

Just let me tell you one thing: Khazars were not homogenous in ethnicity neither in religion. Jews controlled the trade and administration. Turks revolted, bloody massacres happened. Then Rus' came and destroyed Khazars. It is an example of the chaos that ethnic diversity caused.
 
Why? Disappointed? :)

Or are you one of those who says anyone born in Turkey is Turk?

Just let me tell you one thing: Khazars were not homogenous in ethnicity neither in religion. Jews controlled the trade and administration. Turks revolted, bloody massacres happened. Then Rus' came and destroyed Khazars. It is an example of the chaos that ethnic diversity caused.
dude when im come here i just want to spent some time with my friends i dont wanna start fighting discussion or long discussion i say my words the rest i dont care !
 
dude when im come here i just want to spent some time with my friends i dont wanna start fighting discussion or long discussion i say my words the rest i dont care !

You lack historical knowledge.

dude when im come here i just want to spent some time with my friends i dont wanna start fighting discussion or long discussion i say my words the rest i dont care !

I advise you to read Artamanov's Khazar history and Dunlop's Khazar Jewish history. There was another guy who is historian, who wrote also on Khazars. I forgot the name.

-Artamanov
-Dunlop
 
Difference is most Karaim look Turkic or atleast partly Turkic while most Kurds look stereotypical Middle Eastern/Persian
dude i have very great respect for u and most of turks in this forum also love u don't listen to his trolling me and him had our fighting time before , these people are just recently learned to read in english and they read any BS and start they say those BS anywhere this make them think they are cleaver ;) my advise say your words and never replay them again :pleasantry:
 
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