Turkey's President Erdogan gives green light to Sweden's NATO bid

[MMM-E]

Ok sorry but long way to go helicopter projects are more difficult than fighter jet project to complete hence this project will complete to at least 2028-29 than it will enter your army/military

And EU is not needed 11 ton attack hello and China developing 111 ton attack hello as for your information you brainless twit

2 years ago same troll team Foinikas , retaxis , White and Green with M/S and others said Turkish military projects are fake , plastic mock-up

and in 2023 KIZILELMA , KAAN , HURJET , ANKA-3 , T-929 made first flight or taxi test

now same brainless twit is crying here to deflect the facts


HURJET , ANKA-3 , T-929 , KIZILELMA all of them enter service in 2025
and 20 KAAN Fighter Jets will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force until 2028

 

[jhungary]

Nobody cares about useless bankrupt Greece

Germany and France rules the EU
Germany - France says jump and Greece says how long Sir

Silly Germany-France dont have strategic brain to draw Turkiye and Turkic States to the EU side to become real world power from the ocean shores of Europe to China


Turkiye-Turkish States Kazakhstan , Azerbaijan , Turkmenistan , Uzbekhstan , Kyrgyzstan have tens of trillions of Dollars of oil , gas , uranium , thorium , boron , gold and rare-earth element

and the EU has nothing


The European Union now aims to achieve energy independence from Russia by 2030
Turkmenistan,Kazakhstan,Azerbaijan and Turkiye's EZZ in the Eastern Mediterranean gas reserves would seem to be a possible supplier to Europe

also Turkiye-Qatar are real brothers
and Qatar can supply LNG to Europe via Turkiye


Turkmenistan has the world’s 4th largest gas reserves
even only Turkmenistan has enough gas to somewhat offset the loss of Russian gas to the European Union

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Well, European Commission care, they have a vote, so if they veto it and that's no-no for Turkey in EU.

Two vote at least in fact, you also have Cyprus. And it's Turkey who want to join EU, not the other way around, so...you can say what you want but that wouldn't change the fact on the ground any bit.

 

[jhungary]

Indeed.

EU has much to gain by letting Turkey in but some in Europe are shortsighted.

It's more like personal vendetta than shortsighted.

Again, you will need at least Greece and Cyprus to agree on that EC meeting for Turkey to have a chance even if the other 25 countries agreed, there are no way in hell either country would allow Turkey in EU and they will just veto the proposal during European Commission summit.

I don't think the rest of EU are pro nor against Turkey joining, but these 2 would be a serious hurdle and without they agree, this is not going to happen.

 

[LeGenD]

It's more like personal vendetta than shortsighted.

Again, you will need at least Greece and Cyprus to agree on that EC meeting for Turkey to have a chance even if the other 25 countries agreed, there are no way in hell either country would allow Turkey in EU and they will just veto the proposal during European Commission summit.

I don't think the rest of EU are pro nor against Turkey joining, but these 2 would be a serious hurdle and without they agree, this is not going to happen.

EU has created such policies that it is stuck with them. One member state can put the entire bloc on hold.

 

[jhungary]

EU has created such policies that it is stuck with them. One member state can put the entire bloc on hold.

Well, that's ages old democracy. Everyone has a vote.

There are good and bad for this system, I mean, if you look at it, if it affects all member, everyone should really has a say. But of course, the downside is, as you said, one member can hold back the entire progress.

 

[MMM-E]

Well, European Commission care, they have a vote, so if they use it and that's no-no for Turkey in EU.

Two vote at least in fact, you also have Cyprus. And it's Turkey who want to join EU, not the other way around, so...you can say what you want but that wouldn't change the fact on the ground any bit.

Countries like Greece and Greek Cypriots can do nothing without Germany-France who rules the EU ....bankrupt Greece is fully dependent on Germany-France

if Germany-France says YES ... Greece can not say NO


there is only one fact .. EU membership is not possible for political reasons
1-- The EU is a christian club .. but Turkiye is a muslim country
2-- Germany-France dont want to share power in the EU
France worried that to lose its power , if Turkiye enter the EU

if Turkiye enter the EU ,
then Turkiye will have the highest population among EU members. that means Turkiye will have the highest members in the EU parliament

if Turkiye enter the EU ,
then Turkiye will have very strong economy and bigger GDP in a few decade
France sees Turkiye as a threat

France lost against Turkiye in Syria , Libya , Caucasus and in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

[MMM-E]

The EU has a huge problem if Erdogan doesn’t cooperate

1-- The EU depends on Turkiye to deal with migrants
( around 4 million refugees currently based in Turkiye )


2-- The European Union aims to achieve energy independence from Russia by 2030
where will the EU find gas ?

Turkmenistan,Kazakhstan,Azerbaijan and Turkiye's EZZ in the Eastern Mediterranean gas reserves can be possible supplier to Europe

also Turkiye-Qatar are real brothers
and Qatar can supply LNG to Europe via Turkiye

Turkmenistan has the world’s 4th largest gas reserves
even only Turkmenistan has enough gas to somewhat offset the loss of Russian gas to the European Union



3-- Turkiye has huge thorium reserves and The EU has nothing

Thorium is more safer , stronger and cleaner than Uranium
and Thorium is future fuel for nuclear reactors

China build thorium-based nuclear reactor

Turkiye's 340.000 tons of thorium reserves can provide Europe's 1.000 years electric energy

 

[jhungary]

Countries like Greece and Greek Cypriots can do nothing without Germany-France who rules the EU ....bankrupt Greece is fully dependent on Germany-France

if Germany-France says YES ... Greece can not say NO


there is only one fact .. EU membership is not possible for political reasons
1-- The EU is a christian club .. but Turkiye is a muslim country
2-- Germany-France dont want to share power in the EU
France worried that to lose its power , if Turkiye enter the EU

if Turkiye enter the EU ,
then Turkiye will have the highest population among EU members. that means Turkiye will have the highest members in the EU parliament

if Turkiye enter the EU ,
then Turkiye will have very strong economy and bigger GDP in a few decade
France sees Turkiye as a threat

France lost against Turkiye in Syria , Libya , Caucasus and in the Eastern Mediterranean

You have a serious issue with how EU work.......

 

[BHAN85]

Do you remember cold war? That age when USA elite didnt want the complete destruction of Europe.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

2 years ago same troll team Foinikas , retaxis , White and Green with M/S and others said Turkish military projects are fake , plastic mock-up

and in 2023 KIZILELMA , KAAN , HURJET , ANKA-3 , T-929 made first flight or taxi test

now same brainless twit is crying here to deflect the facts


HURJET , ANKA-3 , T-929 , KIZILELMA all of them enter service in 2025
and 20 KAAN Fighter Jets will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force until 2028

Lol even USA can't place a 5th gen fighter in 2 years how can you place a 5th gen fighter within 3 years get out your delusional world kid

 

[Foinikas]

And trust me, Turkey is never going to be part of EU. Some say because of Greece and Cyprus, but I am pretty sure Turkey cant find a single EU country who actually support the idea of Turkey being part of EU.
Notice how they disrupt NATO? Do you think the EU plans to be taken hostage by Turkey too?

And not just that,the Turkish governments also do everything in order not to get into the EU. They have been called out numerous times for violations of human rights,censorship of the media,aggressive stance towards Greece and Cyprus,the handling of the immigration problem,treatment of women,diplomatic blunders etc.

And many also don't like how Erdogan is not eager to put more sanctions on Russia.

 

[MeFishToo]

And not just that,the Turkish governments also do everything in order not to get into the EU. They have been called out numerous times for violations of human rights,censorship of the media,aggressive stance towards Greece and Cyprus,the handling of the immigration problem,treatment of women,diplomatic blunders etc.

And many also don't like how Erdogan is not eager to put more sanctions on Russia.

Which is why restarting accession negotiations is pointless. Turkey needs to reform and basically get rid of Erdogan and his regime, and I am pretty sure that isnt Erdogans goal.

 

[MMM-E]

Lol even USA can't place a 5th gen fighter in 2 years how can you place a 5th gen fighter within 3 years get out your delusional world kid

not 3 years you little kid
but 20 years

Turkiye has started developing KAAN in 2012
first flight 2023
first delivery with GE-F110 engine in 2028 ( total of 20 KAAN in 2028 )

and truly 5th gen capability with new gen indigenous engine in 2032


go and dream about French FCAS for 2050 ....

 

[comci]

I don't think the rest of EU are pro nor against Turkey joining, but these 2 would be a serious hurdle and without they agree, this is not going to happen.

You should ask local Germans, Dutch, Belgian, French (heck, all local western european citizen) what they feel if ''Muslim''Turkey join the EU. Your assumption that the rest of the EU except Greece and Cyprus ,dont care if Turkey join the EU, is really your lack of insight how locals think.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

not 3 years you little kid
but 20 years

Turkiye has started developing KAAN in 2012
first flight 2023
first delivery with GE-F110 engine in 2028 ( total of 20 KAAN in 2028 )

and truly 5th gen capability with new gen indigenous engine in 2032


go and dream about French FCAS for 2050 ....

Little retard kids count your years it is not 20 years but 16 years lot earlier than developing 5th gen jets do the math before you post

And if french FCAS comes in 2050 than your beloved TEMPEST will come after 2060 stop blabbering senseless you retard kid