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The country is winding down an aggressive two-week operation to move tens of thousands of migrants to its frontiers. But relations with Greece and Europe have suffered.

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BRUSSELS — Turkey has signaled that it is winding down its two-week operation to aid the movement of tens of thousands of people toward Europe, following a tough on-the-ground response from Greek border guards and a tepid diplomatic reaction from European politicians.

Migrants at the Greek-Turkish land border began to be transported back to Istanbul by bus this week, witnesses at the border said, de-escalating a standoff that initially set off fears of another European migration crisis. Greek officials said the number of attempted border crossings had dwindled from thousands a day to a few hundred, and none were successful on Friday, even as sporadic exchanges of tear-gas with Turkish security forces continued.

Also Friday, Turkish officials announced that three human smugglers had each been sentenced to 125 years in prison for their roles in the death of a Syrian toddler, Alan Kurdi, whose drowning came to epitomize an earlier migration crisis, in 2015.

That announcement and the week’s other developments were interpreted by experts and European politicians as signals to Europe that the Turkish authorities were once again willing to police their borders and quell a second wave of migration.


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It follows a tense period in which President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey attempted to engineer the reverse: a new migration crisis on Europe’s borders.

On Feb. 28, the Turkish government announced it would no longer stop migrants trying to reach Europe, and it then drove hundreds to the threshold of Greece, live-streaming the process to encourage more to follow.

The move was perceived as an attempt to rally European support for Turkey’s military campaign in northern Syria, and more European aid for the four million refugees inside Turkey.

On at least one occasion, Turkish officials even forced migrants to leave. In a video clip filmed onboard a bus ferrying people to the border, reluctant migrants were shown being forced off the vehicle at gunpoint by officers in plain clothes, and beaten when they resisted.


Marc Pierini, a former European Union envoy to Turkey, called it “the first-ever refugee exodus, albeit a limited one, fully organized by one government against another.”

The border clash not only stirred fears of a new migration crisis, but it also saw both countries react with anger and tough tactics. The Greeks have been condemned for suspending asylum applications and detaining and returning some migrants to Turkey.

To foment a sense of crisis, Turkish security forces fired tear gas over the border at their Greek counterparts and provided journalists with footage of aggressive Greek responses to migrants. Mr. Erdogan accused Greek officials of behaving like officials in Nazi Germany.

But the Turks used aggressive tactics of their own.

Footage captured by The New York Times showed Turkish security forces standing aside to allow migrants to tear down part of a fence dividing Turkey and Greece. And other footage emerged of a Turkish vessel pursuing a Greek coast guard vessel in the Aegean, and of a Turkish armored vehicle ramming a border fence between the two countries.

The Turkish Interior Ministry then sent more guards to the border — not to prevent people from leaving without documents, but to stop Greece from returning them by force, according to the Turkish interior minister, Suleyman Soylu.


The confrontation marked a low point in relations between two neighbors who have long had a fragile coexistence within NATO, and it threatened to upend a fine balance in the strategically important, energy-rich southeastern Mediterranean.

It also brought front and center the European Union’s dependence on Turkey to limit the movement of migrants toward its territory, as well as Mr. Erdogan’s willingness to weaponize migrants for his own purposes.

But experts said Mr. Erdogan’s mobilization of migrants and security forces at the borders with Europe could have backfired, being so provocative that it may have made European politicians less willing to make concessions.

“The problem is that because of the blackmail used by Turkey, getting an agreement from the European Council is going to be more difficult,” said Mr. Pierini, who is now an analyst for Carnegie Europe, a research organization.

The European Union in 2016 agreed to funnel 6 billion euros to organizations helping the nearly four million Syrian refugees in Turkey, in exchange for Turkey’s help in securing its borders with Greece.

That deal came after nearly one million refugees left Turkey for Greece, allowing them to reach the Continent’s prosperous north relatively easily.

But Turkey has complained that European funding has been slow in coming, and has been paid to aid groups as well as into its own government coffers, making it less efficient. At a meeting in Brussels this week, European Union leaders discussed with Mr. Erdogan whether the agreement would be extended and how to restore it.

Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission, said the meeting with Mr. Erdogan on Monday had been a “good start” in restoring normalcy at the Greek-Turkish borders.

“Migrants need support, Greece needs support but also Turkey needs support, and this involves finding a path forward with Turkey,” she said. “Clearly we have our disagreements but we have spoken plainly and we have spoken openly to each other about these.”


The European Union is likely to eventually agree to send more money to Turkey to help with challenges posed by the refugee influx, Mr. Pierini said.

But European leaders have taken a dim view of Mr. Erdogan’s latest showmanship, and may have become even more reluctant to accede to other Turkish diplomatic priorities, Mr. Pierini added. Those include an expansion of the Turkey’s joint customs union with Europe, and further visa reforms for Turkish nationals.

The awkward coexistence between Greece and Turkey since the mid-1990s, when the two countries came close to war, could be at even greater risk of lasting damage.

“Greek-Turkish détente has been one of the cornerstones of geostrategic relations in the southeastern Mediterranean — and the potential of this collapsing is alarming to the region and Western allies,” said Ian Lesser, the vice president of the German Marshall Fund.

He said that the escalation had unleashed forces that may not be easy to manage.

“Once someone opens up Pandora’s box, in an environment when you have proxy groups, coast guards, criminal traffickers, many actors who may not be fully under the control of governments, there is always the potential to go wrong,” Mr. Lesser said.

“That’s true in Syria but it’s also true on the Greek-Turkish border,” he added.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/europe/turkey-greece-border-migrants.html

@Glass @Constantin84 @Reconquerer
 
greece airforce is one of the best airforce and turkey is in no position to confront them as turkey lacks allies in region
 
Thats a very wrong projection tho, he probably post poned it because corona.

Summer is coming and the Rivers water is decreasing and the waves are becoming smother, that means that Turkey can unleash the migrants upon europe in a very direct and systematic manner by slashing the social assistance for the refugees etc., providing transport and boats for the refugees who wish to travel to the EU via the aegean and provide back up on the TR/greek border who wish to travel trough the land border.

Now ur argument will be that Greece can ward off all these boats and migrants with help of FRONTEX but if it already had to accept 74k people in 2019 despite Turkey trying to keep the migrants on its land then this will be very difficult for the greeks in 2020

Just to make the maths, in that 3-4 days more then 1000 migrants reached the Islands and that without TR support before erdo closed the aegean route. Now imagine if Turkey provided these people boats as well troughout the summer season and most importantly troughout the whole year...

The logical thing for u to do will be to support the safe zone plans because Erdo is simply not in a position to keep these people in Turkey and the domestic political support is already nowadays very slim for him so the 2 options u have will be either these migrants will go to europe or they will return to their home countries (safe zone for the syrians).

greece airforce is one of the best airforce and turkey is in no position to confront them as turkey lacks allies in region

No, neither greece nor its allies are strong and recent crsis are also showing that

We dont even see Greece as a nation which poses a danger. Just a bunch of loud mouths who hide behind brussels and washington.
 
This is just trailer what’s going to happen
Today there’s erdogan merkel macron teleconference summit
My logical assumption is that he is going to offer them third options:
safe zone in northern syria(including idlib) with european financial backing
gradual migration of refugees to europe(instead of 4 milions at once “only” 1.5 milion to europe for now in exchange for several billion euros)
The last is the worst for EU release all refugees at once
@Glass has already explained very well about favorable weather conditions for migration i will just add that greek fence border isn’t safe anymore it can be leveled any day in the summer and of course never forget the cyprus card for refugees
in short europeans have two options either they will sacrifice their separatist anti turkish project and support turkish safe zone in syria or refugees will come to europe(only this time there will be also millions of economic migrants as well)

Thanks to Greece for protecting the Union's borders.

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Protect from what???
Greeks are useless that’s why they asked for additional forces from other states but everything will be in vain when summer arrives
 
gradual migration of refugees to europe(instead of 4 milions at once “only” 1.5 milion to europe for now in exchange for several billion euros)

They aren't even relocating the few thousands present since years on Greek islands,but somehow they'll relocate 1,5 million(!) people. Dreaming is free as we say.

Erdogan's tactics have totally failed anyway. Instead of rallying Europeans for his safe zone plans (or whatever his goals are),he rallied them against him and Turkey,both seen as blackmailing Europe with those people.

Not even adding his plans to open the "floodgates" didn't go as planned because he probably expected in a parallel universe the Europeans,but firstly the Greeks wouldn't try to block them.
 
@Vergennes what could be the reason why erdo already stopped after 3-4 days the aegan route :) ? What could have been his main intention?
 
The sultan was soundly defeated but failure is his middle name by now. He was probably slapped in Brussels, told that the EU will bulldoze the fragile Turkish economy and he returned home with tail behind his legs and quietly began to do what he was told. He will ofcourse rant for his gullible public back home but the important thing is that he respects the leash he's in.

He got nothing, no money, no safe zones, no visas, no new economic agreement....just dead Turkish soldiers and an image of a terrorist Turkish state which rallied Europe behind Greece.What a looser the sultan is...
 
Its also interesting because the EU by the end of this year will be weak as **** as a Union.

- Italy will make it clear that there will be consequences for the union alltogether.
- The image by the EU is massively tarnished and diplomats from all over the world will have briefcases full of human rights violations from the greek/euro frontex troops and with that there comes a soft power loss because euros will no longer be in a position to lecture other nation on these rights.
- The economy of EU nations, especially Spain,Italy and Greece will need massive cash inflows and this will create another financial crisis :D

Should have supported our safe zone plans, now u will deal with refugees waves all over again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Its also interesting because the EU by the end of this year will be weak as **** as a Union.

- Italy will make it clear that there will be consequences for the union alltogether.
- The image by the EU is massively tarnished and diplomats from all over the world will have briefcases full of human rights violations from the greek/euro frontex troops and with that there comes a soft power loss because euros will no longer be in a position to lecture other nation on these rights.
- The economy of EU nations, especially Spain,Italy and Greece will need massive cash inflows and this will create another financial crisis :D

Should have supported our safe zone plans, now u will deal with refugees waves all over again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You do realise that your post is just fantasy? The whole world saw the pathetic way in which Turkey tried to herd refugees into Greece, no one criticised Greece but Turkey.
 
You do realise that your post is just fantasy? The whole world saw the pathetic way in which Turkey tried to herd refugees into Greece, no one criticised Greece but Turkey.

Nah, complete opposite. What the world sees is not Turkey herding refugees into europe but europeans preaching human rights, values, democracy, socialism, liberalism as long as they have not to deal with anything serious and as soon as brown man show up at the border these liberal, openminded, democratic, socialist Europeans turning into mini-hitlers overnight :D

There is a stark contrast between how u want nations to see you and us and how other nations outside the eu perceive the situation. We Turks are not the ones lecturing others on these rights, thats u and u will deal with the consequences now and how u europeans perceive urselfs is irrelevant. We Turks dont give a **** about ur opinion and are straightforward.
 
Nah, complete opposite. What the world sees is not Turkey herding refugees into europe but europeans preaching human rights, values, democracy, socialism, liberalism as long as they have not to deal with anything serious and as soon as brown man show up at the border these liberal, openminded, democratic, socialist Europeans turning into mini-hitlers overnight :D

There is a stark contrast between how u want nations to see you and us and how other nations outside the eu perceive the situation. We Turks are not the ones lecturing others on these rights, thats u and u will deal with the consequences now and how u europeans perceive urselfs is irrelevant. We Turks dont give a **** about ur opinion and are straightforward.
I still remember you and your kind jumping up and down a few weeks ago saying Europe will be flooded with migrants. The Greeks made you and your sultan swallow the bitter pill of defeat with nothing to show for it....no flood in Europe, no money, no visas, no new trade agreement...nothing, nada,rien
 

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