Turkey slaps retaliatory tariff hikes on US-made goods worth $553M

[Georg]

I have to laugh my *** off everytime I read a topic about Turkey...

The longer Erdogan stay in power the more turkish members and their freinds act like him... insulting, acting like little kids...etc..

one thing is for sure Turkey are world champion in overestimating their importance in the world...

face the fact girls, you play no significant rule in any large scale world political decission made by EU USA China Russia UNO UN or OSZE.

Because Turkey is so great we have so many turkish citizen members living in evil states like Germany Swiss Neatherlands Canada USA etc... ever wonder why no american canadian german italian frensh danish scandinavian russian polnish emigrate to turkey .... because Turkey is not so great and most of their citizen are as intollerant and close minded like you act here in the Forum...

Turkey politican insult every nation on earth and the moment they get harsh feedback they start crying all are against us all hate turkey and islam we need to stay togehter ...

What turkey need is a new political elite with higher education which can meet other nations politicans on the same level and exchange demands and limits and find solutions everyone can comfortable life with, without insulting witout blaming...without crying around like little kids...

Seriously what you expect as a reaction if Turkey politicans claim our Army can overun Europe in 3 days... here everyone laugh his *** off about such stupid calls.... take a brake... your army is so great that they are not able since decades to win a war against a handfull of PKK fighters and u seriously wanna overrun Europe in 3 days... and you get a erraction between your legs while listening to your politicans telling such nonsens? You realy wonder why no one cares about Turkey and no one takes Turkey serious...

 

[Imran Khan]

good keep pushing when trump leave office USA will have a single ally called israel

 

[TaiShang]

The United States also has great pressure on Germany. Germany is as uncomfortable as many other countries.These irrational policies of the United States are now a global discomfort.

There is a huge opportunity for China . In this economic world-war, China's positive factor will open many new doors for you.

China's foreign policy gives it a great leverage, which Turkey also had as near as 15 years back.

Noninterference policy is a golden rule for China. This way, small and medium countries feel very comfortable to do trade with China because they know for sure their internal affairs are none of China's business.

This is one of the reasons, other than China's manufacturing-logistical advantages, that elevated China as world's largest trade partner.

Northeast Asian economies are all export-oriented and trade-surplus countries, so, for China to be like that is a regional path-dependency. China simply follows early-industrialized Japan, Korea and the likes' footsteps. China's economic development actually resembles to a lot its northeastern cultural-historical neighbours (or, extensions), just that, the scale of its development is out of equation and never happened in history before.

Yet, what China has in addition is its domestic market. Hence, China, although the most severely punished by the US economically (if it is compared with that of the tariffs levied against Turkey, China's share of tariffs is gigantic, LOL), is able to manage the economic aggression fairly comfortably and without resorting to any dramatic policy change or nationwide mobilization -- although China is quite capable of national mobilization.

Turkey may play on its strengths rather than being emotional. Every country slapped back the US with tariffs, small and big, that's no longer a special show of force. The US accepts the slap-back gracefully, and tries to wait you out in a trade war.

So, Turkey's strengths would be its former regional policies, return immediately back to good-neighborhood policy of peace at home, peace in the world. Admittedly, Turkey does not have the national power and significance to mobilize China, Russia or the EU beyond those countries' national interests. Turkey cannot spearhead a pact or a new world order. It cannot build a new pole. What remains is the region, the most important a country can have. Build a region, do trade, and act in unison. Then comes safety, security and stability. With them, comes trade and economic development.

As long as the region remains as it is today, national mobilization or threats will never work by themselves. The US will simply find a way to beat others out.

 

[Georg]

Turkey may play on its strengths rather than being emotional. Every country slapped back the US with tariffs, small and big, that's no longer a special show of force. The US accepts the slap-back gracefully, and tries to wait you out in a trade war.

So, Turkey's strengths would be its former regional policies, return immediately back to good-neighborhood policy of peace at home, peace in the world. Admittedly, Turkey does not have the national power and significance to mobilize China, Russia or the EU beyond those countries' national interests. Turkey cannot spearhead a pact or a new world order. It cannot build a new pole. What remains is the region, the most important a country can have. Build a region, do trade, and act in unison. Then comes safety, security and stability. With them, comes trade and economic development.

As long as the region remains as it is today, national mobilization or threats will never work by themselves. The US will simply find a way to beat others out.

wise words

 

[-SINAN-]

wise words

I agree with you.

What i wonder is why you are angry at Turkey in general ? Because Erdo called you Nazis or is there any other specific reason ?

 

[Georg]

I agree with you.

What i wonder is why you are angry at Turkey in general ? Because Erdo called you Nazis or is there any other specific reason ?

I cant stand people judging with two different values... thats what nearly all turkish do...

I am not angry with Turkey in general, I have some turkish friends and business partners ... funny part, most of them see today Turkey exactly like I do, I had a fromer employee who was able to sell his house in Turkey last year October, today completely happy that they did not wait any longer to sell it.

 

[illusion8]

I think its about time to make inter-Nation Trade Agreements between all the US-Trade War affected countries.
We cannot Bet our economies on a country that starts a trade war over a religious preacher at all.
We should put aside our differences for our own Economic Survival sake. Untill and Unless Trump Administration is in power USA is a Sick Mental with way too much power.
China, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Indonesia, India, Vietnam, Philippines, Eastern Europe, Central Asia.
Not to make any Anti-US block or a military union but some sort of Inter-Trade agreement independent of US Dollar and Western Markets. We want to be Pro Developing world Economic block not Anti- Developed World block.
and sorry Indian no offense but you are really behaving like A**Ho*** supporting this mad dog Trump over Turkey, Pakistan, China even your close Ally Iran. Stop Sucking Up and Get into Reality. We are developing countries despite our differences on Regional issues we need to safeguard our future and Putting your Eggs in Western Basket is not a good policy. We need to stand together against this Trade and Economic madness.

Nice neutral post, but I do object to "India supporting Trump over Turkey..."

Can anyone prove that India as a state has supported any of Trump's statement or sided against Turkey.

India has a host of problems it has to contend with on its own, and it pretty much does it on its own.

Apart from a couple of Indian posters, no Indian poster is an active audience in a Turkey vs the west discussion. So please don't generalize.

 

[xenon54 out]

I cant stand people judging with two different values... thats what nearly all turkish do...

Funny that most of my German collegues who work here have this attitude, i guess everybody only points at others.

 

[Georg]

Funny that most of my German collegues who work here have this attitude, i guess everybody only points at others.

Do you value your own rights and that of your woman mother daughter sister equal?
Has your sister daugther the free will to choose here partner relationship?
Has she the right to walk on street with what ever clothing she like and meet any guy she like?
Has she the right to go out and any time she wants, were she meet who ever she wants?

In Germany everyone can easy answer all question with yes... most turkish guys in Germany cant answer this question with yes...

 

[Super Falcon]

Turkey is going on right path and more independent good it took its all gold from jews

 

[xenon54 out]

Do you value your own rights and that of your woman mother daughter sister equal?
Has your sister daugther the free will to choose here partner relationship?
Has she the right to walk on street with what ever clothing she like and meet any guy she like?
Has she the right to go out and any time she wants, were she meet who ever she wants?

In Germany everyone can easy answer all question with yes... most turkish guys in Germany cant answer this question with yes...

Depends on who you ask in Turkey some will answer yes and others will say partially no but such restrictions also exist for men even if not on equal basis.
It depends on what kind of family the girls grow up to, most of those from conservative families wont miss things like being able to walk around in hot pants and clubbing till 3 in the morning.
I can give you one exsample, in Turkey you will have a harder time to find a girl to make a nude photos for money no matter how secular she and her surrounding is while this will be way less problematic in Germany.
The world isnt homogenous and different cultures exist, go to Nepal and you will experince a way bigger culture shock than Turkey for that matter its not like German/Western culture is the universal standart.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Turkey and Iran are perfect examples for Pakistan add Venezuela to the list too. Don't mess with Uncle Sam, its a lose-lose situation you'll only lose. False bravado is equivalent to self-destruction.

 

[XTQ1999]

When will you dare to pull out of NATO and close more than 20 NATO/American military bases and positions in Turkey?

says the guy from a country that begged and paid NATO coalition to come in and fight the Iraqis for them lmao

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Turkey and Iran are perfect examples for Pakistan add Venezuela to the list too. Don't mess with Uncle Sam, its a lose-lose situation you'll only lose. False bravado is equivalent to self-destruction.

Worry about India. Don't lecture us.

 

[T-Rex]

Turkey and Iran are perfect examples for Pakistan add Venezuela to the list too. Don't mess with Uncle Sam, its a lose-lose situation you'll only lose. False bravado is equivalent to self-destruction.

What has happened to Turkey and Iran? Have they fallen like trump's secretaries have? Morons like you only see whatever is happening to the US adversaries but don't see where the US stands today.