Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[Soldier 99]

No - brief airspace/maritime violations are not meet with deadly force between countries not at war.
If that were the case we would have perpetual wars

Turkey has cleared she didn't know the nationality of that jet.
Plus why there is need to violate the rules? If someone breaks the rule, he is culprit, not the one who punish him. SIMPLE!
World should support whats right and show respect for borders especially when its about sensitive areas!

 

[Hakan]

Pragmatically, the Turkmen villages, or whatever is left of them, will be hit even harder. A no fly zone (enforced by Russia) is probable over the area (hampering any attempt for you to intervene there). Support will also be increased for the Kurdish fighters. You also put NATO in a awkward spot.

I see you point is of pride, and sympathize, but Russia was spending itself In Syria nicely.There really wasn't any pragmatic reason for escalating things

You are blaming Turkey for the escalation when Russia is responsible for it. They know the Turkish Military's rules of engagement. Why did they test it several times? Its like walking into an electric fence on someone elses property then blaming the guy for putting up an electric fence because you got shocked.

 

[illusion8]

NATO already been so aggressive in pursuing Ukraine and Russian neighborhood with missile defence. Russia won't back down without many times of blood shed in Turkey even offer to lift financial sanctions not gonna help


Who decide who intruded or otherwise? That's the problem.

Don't be an idiot and talk of bloodshed in a situation that does not concern you..and I suspect you have no idea of..

 

[Stalwart]

OH... What are you even taking about. A country shot down an enemy country's aircraft in a aim to kill the pilots.? And you think peace will prevail

Wonder why people have become so dumbass

This thread has no significance in terms of what is going on. So keep arguing. Good luck

 

[flamer84]

it is stupidity to hate russia

We'll talk about that when your country has 20% of its territory ripped by them or millions of your people genocided.Not to mention communism,and all the elites purged.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

We shelled before Syrian and Russian artillery post, when they shelled TÜRKMEN MOUNTAIN and hit also TURKISH territory. Russia was warned many times.

 

[thrilainmanila]

Show me ONE SINGLE incident in which U.S jets have violated our air space and we didn't respond despite having the capability. You should work better on your counter arguments. On the other hand, we have shot down their drones who had violated our airspace and captured few intact, including their most advanced drone, and gave them the middle finger when they asked for it.

About Russian missiles or planes going from Iran's air space, it's because we allow it. If you want to bring up that example, is it appropriate if I say Turkey is playing U.S's bitch by giving Incirilik air base to U.S? American jets navigating 'all over your country'? See? A lame argument is easily debunked.

Iran's jets escorting escorting Russian bomber in Iran's airspace. They go because we allow it, nothing hard to understand.

if you're not careful your F-14s will get shot down and there wont be a single thing you'll be able to do about it.

 

[-SINAN-]

Pragmatically, the Turkmen villages, or whatever is left of them, will be hit even harder. A no fly zone (enforced by Russia) is probable over the area (hampering any attempt for you to intervene there). Support will also be increased for the Kurdish fighters. You also put NATO in a awkward spot.

I see you point is of pride, but Russia was spending itself In Syria nicely there really wasn't any pragmatic reason for escalating things

Oh god, i got sick of replying the same retarded arguments over and over again...i'm out of this thread.

For all who can't digest that Turkey downed Russian aircraft....

 

[Trotsky]

You bring up an interesting point.

Whenever Russians violated any other countries airspace, internet forums were filled with so many people wanting to shoot the jets down.
But now that someone actually did it, the Russians are now suddenly the victims and the good guy.
Damn hypocrisy.

We'll talk about that when your country has 20% of its territory ripped by them or millions of your people genocided.Not to mention communism,and all the elites purged.

hahahaha brother i am not a real trotsky but a fake and i like this personality. communism is an other thing totally different from the bureacratic socialism or stalinistic totalitarian purges

We'll talk about that when your country has 20% of its territory ripped by them or millions of your people genocided.Not to mention communism,and all the elites purged.

may be your question is different from the point i picked. so requested for clear sentences

 

[Ind4Ever]

Breaking News : Worst case scenario!!!! Terror rebels funded by US and Turkey in Syria have shot down Russian Helicopter which was on search mission to find its missing pilot. Worst is it was shot by American supplied missiles.

Shame if Russia don't retaliate???


Double Blow : Syrian Rebels Destroy Russian Rescue Helicopter With US-Supplied Anti-Tank Missile |

 

[PurpleButcher]

Rules of Engagement...how many times do i have to repeat until you guys understand it.

Brother, my dear turk brother, please try to understand your rules of engagement will mean zilch when you will be at the receiving end of Russian retaliation. They might not attack now but Putin has been pushed into such a corner by your AAM that he has to do damage to Turkey to show strength inside Russia.

Had it been a fiji's jet , yes you can hold your ROE dear but why to stir Putin's Russia?

What can Turkey do if Russia rains down missiles on Pro Turkey rebels?
What can Turkey do if Russia heavily arms KURDS for a greater Kurdistan?

The Russians have now too many options to retaliate. My point is why did you guys put yourself in this mess in the first place because of a few seconds of violations (lets say even repeated violations)?

PS:- I wish Turkey to grow further economically and militarily without getting itself bogged down in regional mess like Pakistan got entangled in the 80's.

 

[Ind4Ever]

This thread has no significance in terms of what is going on. So keep arguing. Good luck

Dude you seriously belive if you and me sing a song of happiness and friendship on defence forum that too world famous PDF then Russia and Turkey kiss each other? You sound like a kid. Go join for PS3 PC game forum

 

[Soldier 99]

If its not a big issue for Russia to consistently violate airspace rules then why is she reacting this way now and crying like a baby? Show the same casual style now! If you expect others to ignore your faults then you also do the same now. big deal?

 

[Trotsky]

Turkey has cleared she didn't know the nationality of that jet.
Plus why there is need to violate the rules? If someone breaks the rule, he is culprit, not the one who punish him. SIMPLE!
World should support whats right and show respect for borders especially when its about sensitive areas!

has the isis respected any rule,law or border? have turkey, america,west and middle east monachies respect any other soveriegnty?

 

[thrilainmanila]

Such incidents will directly change the power projection of Turkish industry... The new targets should be;

-Nuclear Tech is a must for Turkey.
-Long range land attack cruise missiles ! (Already have an ongoing project with a range of 1000km range but The schedule should be accelerated)
-Ballistic Missiles !
-Domestic Low-Medium and Long range SAM missiles (Already have but The schedule should be accelerated )

getting nukes is a seriously bad idea.