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Pakistan must stand by our Turkish Brothers , always.
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We know how to do proper strikes we have used Army and Air Force most effectively and this is also symbol of our support that we stand with our brother. Finally it's time to increase our defence budget and massively increase our forces and put lots of them in middle east for ever.WhT will JF - 17s do in .turkey? Do u really think tht the help Turkey would require from Pak would be JF 17s? When their airforce is already much better equipped than Pakistan? I think Turkey would require Pakistan's help in planning and strategy of this war, which Pak has immense experience in fighting, in the last decade.. They would want our intel support and coordination...not JF 17s....
I say, even IF assisting Turkey, means going against the interests of Iran, then so be it.. We MUST help Turkey, in anyway... How many friends are we going to lose for Iran's sake, when Iran is closer to India already and not a strategic partner of Pak? Turkey has ALWAYS supported Pakistan.. turkey also helped us, keep our F16s operational when US sanctioned Pak.... Already we angered GCC due to Iran, ( i dont mean tht we should have gone to yemen, and bombed there..or our soldiers shd hv participated in Yemen..rather..we should have sent our men for defensive role in KSA but we handled tht in worst diplomatic manner) and gave India a free opportunity to form closer alliance with UAE... I sincerely hope, tht our foreign policy makers have learnt from tht debacle
Also i think, Turkish forces are very capable...and more advanced than Pak..and Turkey is a mature country.. They wouldnt want our armed forces in the role, tht GCC wanted.. I think they would want role of our forces for planning and strategic purposes and intel support, as Pak has immense experience , in last decade, to fight the kind of war, Turkey needs help in.....For tht, whatever we can, to help Turkey, we MUST..
Also, going by ISPR's public statements regd Turkey, where they have openly stated, tht Gen Raheel assured Turkish leadership all our support, i think we will support turkey... Otherwise ISPR would have been more cautious with their statements.. But the fact tht they openly stated tht Gen Raheel assured our full support, means we have made the decision to assist Turkey with whatever they have requested
this is going to be interesting..this is an interesting development. apparently china now is stay with kurds, and we just open a consulate in iraq kurd area. I believe china is also behind PKK in terms of fiancial and military support.
Hi,
Thank you for the tag---the Yemen crisis was a fiasco for Pakistan----it was a blunder of the ultimate magnitude.
Pakistan is the only muslim nation who has withstood an onslaught of terrorist insurgency in KPK, Fata and Baluchsitan---and then has stood up to a neighbor 3 ties in size militarily---.
So---basically---there is no other muslim military in the region with Pakistan unique experience and expertise.
It is very difficult to change position---from being a beggar to being a giver----. A beggar always begs and a giver always gives---that was the case with Saudi arabia and Emirates----we begged and they gave---we begged and they gave---we begged and they gave---and suddenly they asked for something---and as we had no clue how to give---we refused---and we refused horribly and humiliated and degraded our well wishers.
So---again---we are at a cross roads----now turkey may want assistance---so if we give them assistance---then what would we say to emirates and Saudi arabia----.
That yemen issue would bite Pakistan in the ar-se real hard----the pay back for that felony offense would be tough to swallow.
You are right---when one is a beggar for whole of his life---it becomes next to impossible to give---.
We have given plenty, i'm not going to go into details of it because anyone who knows the region's history knows what Pak has done for the Arab states.
That's where tough decision regarding forign policy comes in. its the British who divided the lands, after second world war, in such a manner that there will be always instability. As far is turkey is concerned its the past was the ottoman empire and it stretched from the Atlantic ocean to the Indian ocean. so yeah Kurdistan was part of Ottoman empire. As same as Indian states were one by one conquered by the Mughals and then the British combined all states into one for administrative unit. As far as Kashimir is concerned? that is the legitimate part of Pakistan as it ceded to Pakistan during the partition which Hindu leaders caused by not giving into the 14 points of Mohammad Ali Jinnah who was also a congressman once and tried as much as possible to avert the partition and considered it only the last resort, for safeguarding the rights of the minorities in India just like they are under threat at the moment under current Indian regime. Like it or not Pakistan was destined to be the insurance policy for the minorities of India. Jinnah in an interview said once that Pakistan will have similar relations with India as Canada has with USA!
read below
"Jinnah insisted on a US-Canada type relationship between India and Pakistan with, open and permeable borders; and even wanted to retire in his beloved city, Bombay. However, he died too early and Gandhi, while fasting for the rights of Pakistanis, was killed by an Hindu extremist (note the absence of this fact in the Indian discourse — Hindutva terror started with Gandhi’s assassination)."
‘Jinnah’s Pakistan’ is not dead - The Express Tribune
Day dreaming is a fascinating thingPakistan supporting Turkey against ISIS will be the best thing to happen for India. Iran will allow India to have military bases in Iran on Pakistan border.
Why would that be?Pakistan supporting Turkey against ISIS will be the best thing to happen for India. Iran will allow India to have military bases in Iran on Pakistan border.
We should help turkey in planning,intel, as well as by conducting air strikes.But no soldier should be deployed on the ground.Their lives are too precious to be wasted their.Islamabad: Turkey seeks Pakistan’s cooperation in the former’s decisive operation against the Kurdish guerrilla group PKK and the Islamic State, in a development that will test Islamabad’s diplomatic skills to deal with the delicate situation, The Express Tribune has learned.
The request for Pakistan’s support came from the Turkish leadership during talks with Chief of Army Staff Gen Raheel Sharif, who wrapped up his three-day visit to Turkey’s capital Ankara on Wednesday.
Sources familiar with the discussions between Gen Raheel and Turkey’s top civil and military authorities disclosed that Ankara was looking towards Islamabad for greater anti-terror cooperation as Turkey faced its current challenges.
However, specific details regarding the nature of help Turkey seeks from Pakistan have not been made available.
Turkey is increasingly concerned over threats to its territorial integrity after the United States started withdrawing the Patriot missile systems along its border with Syria this month.
Ankara is not happy with the US move, as Turkey needs the missile system in the backdrop of the current unrest in Syria. Sources said the US move could be the reason why Turkey was now looking towards Pakistan for crucial support.
So far it is unclear how far Islamabad is willing to support Ankara in Turkey’s fight against Kurdish rebels and IS (also known by its Arabic acronym Da’ish), although the army chief has extended ‘total support’ to the Turkish leadership in tackling their current security challenges.
A source said Pakistan could extend material support as well as share its expertise in dealing with insurgency
and terrorism.
On the last day of his visit, Gen Raheel visited the war academy in Turkey and exchanged views with the participants on Pakistan’s successful experience in fighting terrorism, said the chief military spokesman.
Lt Gen Asim Bajwa said the army chief also met the Turkish foreign minister to discuss the regional security situation.
Gen Raheel travelled to Turkey at a time when the country is engaged in two separate battles with the PKK and Da’ish.
In the recent weeks Turkey has stepped up its campaign against the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (commonly known as PPK) and the IS.
The PKK, mainly based in northern Iraq and southern Turkey, has been engaged in a bloody insurgency for more than 30 years and demanding self-determination for the Kurds.
This July the three-year ceasefire between Turkey and the PKK ended after the Turkish forces targeted the rebels’ hideouts in northern Iraq to wipe out the group.
Published in The Express Tribune, October 15th, 2015.
Turkey seeks Pakistan’s help against PKK, IS - The Express Tribune