Turkey scrambles F-16's to Syrian border

[tvsram1992]

If Russians have military presence in Syria by now , F16s would become prey for Russian SAMs .

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

we would be predators for russian sams

 

[Zulkarneyn]

1.No. Whole Syria stance of Turkey and GCC is about Assad refusing KSA-Turkey pipelie and railway project. Syria is the only ally of Iran in Middle East (I don't count Iraq because US still has tremendous control of Iraq and have 30+ years of oil contract about Iraqi and Kurdish oil) and GCC wants to isolate Iran and have a land route to Turkey, their biggest ally in Middle East. Nowhere in this world can be considered as our backyard... If you mean Syria than I remind you that Turkish goverments job is to raise the prosperity of of Turkish citizens and provide them with sercurity and attacking Syria dangers them both.

2. No, that is called punishment at best and its not our job to ''punish'' provocations done by a regime that is about to fall. Starting a war with Syria will cause hundreads of life if not thousands and not to forget that increasing Iranian support of PKK... Best way to not getting hurt by psycopath is to ignore them or avoid them...

Tell me how can you ignore the daily massacres done to our Syrian neighbors? If we take all the geopolitical issues at hand, we will only remain with our very own selfish interest. There is something called "the responsibility to protect" in international affairs.

I will post some of my writings from my BA thesis on this issue:

It is, however, necessary that only if preventive and coercive measures (such as political, economic or judicial) fail to resolve such situations, then intervention by other states may be needed, and only in very extreme cases military action may be included. To justify military intervention six principles as mentioned in ‘The Responsibility to Protect’ must be satisfied: The “just cause” threshold, four “precautionary principles” and the prerequisite of “right authority”.
The just cause threshold emphasizes that military intervention for human protection rationales is only an extraordinary measure. To actually engage militarily, civilians must be faced with serious threats of large-scale loss of life or ethnic cleansing, actual or anticipated. The reason the bar is set so high is because military intervention must be extremely exceptional - if intervention is going to happen, it must not be called on too often, or else this could open ways to abuse this norm.
The precautionary principles guarantee that the intervention actually is supported by the people for whose benefit the intervention is intended. It is also necessary that the intervention takes place on a collective multilateral basis. The second precautionary standard is “last resort” – military intervention can only be justified when every non-military option for the prevention or peaceful resolution of the crisis has been explored. The third precautionary principle “proportional means” emphasizes that the duration, scale and intensity of the planned intervention should be the minimum necessary for accomplishing the objective of protecting people. Lastly, there is a principle of “reasonable prospects”. This principle secures that there must be a reasonable chance of success and the consequences of action should not be worse than the consequences of inaction.
Finally, the most complicated and controversial principle is concerning the “right authority”. The United Nations and particularly its Security Council is the most appropriate body than can authorize military intervention. Countries regard collective intervention approved by the UN as legitimate, because a representative international body’s authorization is final. Whereas, as Gareth and Sahnoun states, a unilateral intervention is seen as illegitimate because it is often driven by self-interest. And, those who challenge the authority of the UN risks eroding its authority and undermining the principles mentioned above.


The above underlines that unilateral approach is not optimal in such situations. That is why acting with the GGC will be in the interest of ME. Our lack of appropriate response is a sign of weakness.

 

[Killuminati]

If Russians have military presence in Syria by now , F16s would become prey for Russian SAMs .

Is it not possible to locate the position of the SAM's with a UAV and destroying them with cruise missiles or other artillery strikes?