Featured Turkey proposes 'protection force' for Palestine in emergency OIC meet; Pakistan and Malaysia endorse

[Taimoor Khan]

Instead, why not try to give me more solid references from proper Islamic sources that create the obligations to rule over Al Aqsa for all Muslims? If you have any, that is. I am merely trying to learn the bases for your position here, or the lack thereof.

Dont worry about Islamic history and events, that irrelevant for you. caliph Umer, Noor-uddin Zangi, Salahuddin Ayubis of this world, they are all mythical characters, thousands didnt die to bring Jerusalem under Muslim control. Crusades you say? Ah thats just non sense, never happened. . Maybe just maybe some idiots wanted to bring the church of nativity under Muslim control or perhaps Jewish walling wall, otherwise there is nothing of significance there.


Trust me, for you and your kind, that hollywood movie will make perfect sense with mirch masala.

 

[VCheng]

Dont worry about Islamic history and events, that irrelevant for you. caliph Umer, Noor-uddin Zangi, Salahuddin Ayubis of this world, they are all mythical characters, thousands didnt die to bring Jerusalem under Muslim control. Crusades you say? Ah thats just non sense, never happened. . Maybe just maybe some idiots wanted to bring the church of nativity under Muslim control or perhaps Jewish walling wall, otherwise there is nothing of significance there.


Trust me, for you and your kind, that hollywood movie will make perfect sense with mirch masala.

Yeah, all that wattabootery is predictable, since you simply do not have any robust religious bases for declaring rule over Al Aqsa to be an obligation upon all Muslims. It is significant, it is blessed, but it can be ruled over by anybody, just like centuries of history have already shown us all.

 

[Adecypher]

Unfortunately, it really does seem muslims forgot the life of their own prophet and example it set for actions under every scenario and condition.

That is a true statement...

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Yeah, all that wattabootery is predictable, since you simply do not have any robust religious bases for declaring rule over Al Aqsa to be an obligation upon all Muslims. It is significant, it is blessed, but it can be ruled over by anybody, just like centuries of history have already shown us all.

Are you suggesting those who fought and died long before me and you, better Muslims I would say, for Jerusalem , or more importantly, what lies within (as city itself is no significance), were they all stupid? Did they look for a specific Hadees or a verse in Quran for them to find a reason to fight for the cause?
Where is the whataboutrey here mate? I am trying to have a intelligent conversation here with you, believe me.

 

[Adecypher]

The love for Harmain Shareefain is not religious but money.

Bro you want to get banned ... my goodness ... lol ...

 

[Adecypher]

I am really curious to understand your mindset, and more importantly the agenda here. Why you are hell bend on leaving Al Aqsa at the hands of Zionists terrorists and fanatics?

Very simple ... mocho denaaro... LOL

 

[VCheng]

Are you suggesting those who fought and died long before me and you, better Muslims I would say, for Jerusalem , or more importantly, what lies within (as city itself is no significance), were they all stupid? Did they look for a specific Hadees or a verse in Quran for them to find a reason to fight for the cause?
Where is the whataboutrey here mate? I am trying to have a intelligent conversation here with you, believe me.

Fighting for "the cause" is indeed a very noble thing. But where does this cause include the obligation to rule over Jerusalem? I am just trying to understand the basis for such a declaration, that is all.

 

[CodeforFood]

Allah has not taken responsibility for Al Aqsa, thats only for Mecca and Madina, and even that will be lifted near the time of Judgement day. You need to get clued up on Islamic studies mate.

I am really curious to understand your mindset, and more importantly the agenda here. Why you are hell bend on leaving Al Aqsa at the hands of Zionists terrorists and fanatics? What is yours, you have to protect it right, at the very basic understanding and levels of logic?

So I am assuming when Abu Tahir Qaramati took hajr - e - aswad. Mecca was still protected then? Why do we exist then if we are not the extension of God to protect?

 

[Dr-who]

Even if Pakistan moves missiles to Syria or Jordan then Israel will sh!t their pants.

Likewise if entire Israel moves it's arms to India then pakistan is in deep trouble.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Fighting for "the cause" is indeed a very noble thing. But where does this cause include the obligation to rule over Jerusalem? I am just trying to understand the basis for such a declaration, that is all.

I just had a laugh. lol

I ask of you again, if you dont think that Caliph Umer, Noor-uddin Zangi, Sallauddin Ayubi and many others, who were mythical characters, and who fought for centuries in order to control Jerusalem and rule over it, what was the reason for it? Pure madness? There has to be something within for that relentless pursue for control!

 

[VCheng]

hat was the reason for it? Pure madness? There has to be something within for that relentless pursue for control!

Please stop beating about the bush and share with us the real reason to control whatever lies within.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

mocho denaaro

But it's true. The whole lot of em are gobshytes. The ruling elite full well know they don't have the money get even one soldier of god flown to Palestine. And even if they had before they could even prepare there would no Pakistan left.

Here is the deal. A few people with respect to them for their conviction and bravey although they were dumb baskets are the Afghans and people Osama Bin Laden.

Both took on the monster but had the balls to live in caves, fight and die in hunger. No biriani. No kulfi. Die a horroble death under American bombs. The Taliban have shown this.

But tell me exactly who besides them are prepared to do that? The gobshytes on PDF are not because otherwise they would be RIGHT now in Gaza and not being keyboard warriors.

As rregards the Turkish, Saudi, Emirati, Pakistani, Malay etc elite you think they would even consider living in caves and fighting America? Nota hope in hell.

Result "notin aint gonna happen". This is all big show.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

So I am assuming when Abu Tahir Qaramati took hajr - e - aswad. Mecca was still protected then? Why do we exist then if we are not the extension of God to protect?

Did Hajr-e-aswad not got returned and placed where it belong? What happened to Ashab-e-Feil? would the seige by Mohammed Abdullah al-Qahtani and his gang will be classed as an attempt to destroy haram?

I think you got some issues with the basic understanding.

Please stop beating about the bush and share with us the real reason to control whatever lies within.

You are the one who is BSing and ranting against the well established history, not just by Muslims accounts but verified by non muslims as well.

As I said, watch that Hollywood movie, will Insha Allah make some sense to you and kind.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

mocho denaaro

Muslim NATO getting ready and bag of "denaaros" is always welcome.

mocho denaaro

 

[VCheng]

You are the one who is BSing and ranting against the well established history, not just by Muslims accounts but verified by non muslims as well.

All history shows us is rule over the blessed site going back and forth and all around a number of rulers. That is all. What is BS here is the assumption that there is some sort of obligation to do so.