Turkey is playing a dangerous game...

[艹艹艹]

America has messed with NK, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, and now it seems like it is also diverting its attention from terrorism to containing China and Russia. Meanwhile, its president is a joke all around the world. What has become of USA? If you open to many fronts, you will exhaust yourself in lesser time.

Donald J.Trump：
Make America Great Again

 

[mahatir]

The USA created hatred between the people of this region.

1) Egyptians Vs Turks
2) Arabs Vs Arabs
3) Sunni Vs Shia
4) Iranians Vs Arabs
5) Turkey Vs Arabs
6) Kurds Vs everyone

I think its time for countries in this region to develop ties with China and Russia , the USA has brought nothing to this region except tears , destruction and hatred.

One thing for sure the USA will lose eventually its position in this region .
Future generations will never forgive the USA for its damaging policies in the middle east .
The middle east turned to a scientific laboratory for testing new American weapons on Middle Eastern people.

 

[FirstClass]

We had a plan for Syria for peace in the region.

This pretty much sums up US policy in the last 60 years.

"We have a plan for Vietnam for peace in the region" - Huge failure
"We have a plan for Korea" - Couldn't even bring peace to the region. Now it is a huge mess.
"We have a plan for Balkans" - Thousands of civilians dead. Huge economic wreckage.
"We have a plan for Iraq and Iran" - Supplied arms to Saddam ffs. Should I go on? Then you even tried to friend Iran. After supplying arms to its enemy? I mean who is even making these plans? Tell me. Was it you m8?
"We have a plan for Iraq...again!" - I don't even need to talk about this. This is the reason why we're even talking about this today."
"We have a plan for Syria..." - Dude... I don't even... You have failed so many times that you still dare to say something like this.

US has never been successful in its foreign policy and it never will be. As long as it acts like the father of all the world, it will only bring chaos to the world. Just let other people do their own thing. It works. Trust me. If the US intervention to the Middle East never happened, I'm sure that it would have taken its own historical process and reach a better conclusion in the end. Now, this region is doomed for at least 50 more years because of US intervention. Plus, millions of civilians are dead. When it is the USA that is doing the massacre, it is called "casualties" but when Turkey wants to defend itself against terrorist elements that day by day, attack its homeland, it is called "aggression", "genocide".

 

[mangekyo]

You would be surprised by my military background... aswell as your thoughts and opinions on this matter.

We cannot simply leave Syria, we have the capability and opportunity to stop all of this. It's in our best interest to have this situation resolved in order for us to focus on Iran.

I might have said to much just now. We honestly value your opinions.

Focus on Iran, lol Iran always defeated US in in foreign policy and proxy wars. Iranian backed proxy groups have killed more Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan than the Iraqis and Afghans have done themselves. We destroyed your ISIS lapdogs in Syria and Iraq and also your Barzanistan.

US always loses to Iran.

Thanks for handing Syria and Iraq over to us btw

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Such a fantastic force, taking action against rouge elements
Going after in their den !!!

That is why Turkish Armed froces are Best in our side of word!!! That is how Pakistan should have acted in Afghanistan occupy whole region

We are digging trenches while Turkey Takes care of business

We let these 200-300 Sheep herders in afghan areas run the show in region call afghan territory just go and do a proper military ops

 

[xenon54 out]

The self righteous attitude presented in this very thread is the prime exsample why even the most pro western Turks (such as me) increasingly view US involvement in conflicts with scepticism.

I mean you gotta think about about it, someone comes from thousands of km away to your neigborhood, bombs it to oblivion, leaves it in a even bigger mess than it was before already, then starts arming groups including your sworn enemies in the name of bringing stability to the chaos he created in the first place and then threatens you and tells you that your playing with fire when you try to defend yourself.

I cant help but to ask, do they really think we are that stupid?

I think US misunderstood the concept of peace when it thinks it can bring peace by pouring weapons in one of the most violent regions in the world, or any other part of the world for this matter.



Having said that, this is how you legitimize a terrorist group:

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Turkey has to really woken up , unlike our forces that still are day dreaming about realities of world Turkey is fully awake now and smells the coffee

Pakistan has to follow similar approach and take out any emerging rouge force in Afghanistan and Occupy it 100%

No tolorence for these 200-300 people rouge forces being armed from outside

Only a Blunt Wiplash inducing STRIKE on enemy will silence the winds of deception, which are rattling up noise

The recent crash of certain military personnel in Turkey , very suspicious act

 

[idune]

At the moment, Syria, Russia, Iran and Turkey are on same page - deny Kurdish separatists establish any defecto state like entity using US presence and arms support. All 4 countries are on same page for giving US a boot from Syria and Iraq. There had been behind the scene coordination among 4 countries to this end. Rest of optics does not matter.

 

[Timur]

..good logic turkey is playing a dangerous game.. what kind of shit is this?

we are playing a dangerous game because some countries circle turkey like vultures...

this is a fight for our existince.. and than ppl come and tell us its a dangerous game.. but no one of them say its a dangerous game for kurds.. they now manged to have enemies in turkey, iran and iraq and sure they will pay the price for their actions..

but we all know why they say its a dangerous game because of their interest and wishes.. thats the used language for descriping things like methaphores.. and no one talks about the dangerous things kurds did even it could end in extinction in iraq or more in syria when the time comes.. the reason for this is also interest and wishes and good feelings towards them because of that interest and work against turkey, arabs or whatever..

so in my mind this afrin thing is fishy.. there had been so much preperations on tv its like making advertising go out we will come next month prepare yourself.. there should have been a surpise attack with more massiv and agressive bombing as a show and warning..

these ypg dogs should be hunted and killed everywhere you find them without mercy..

Oh I forgot to mention the civillian argument of those media. what do this guys think about their wrongdoing in the whole area? all that death that came up because of their interest? or the death that the ypg caused? nothing special about it.. no one talks about that? no one gives it a value because the lives that fade away are not important for them.. so even if there would be the civilian casualties that their media have invented.. it would be very very extreemly hypocritical to talk about that from these countries..

I know I talked to hearts behind walls... sounds like waste of time but it had a purpose this was more for our ppl not for others..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Such a fantastic force, taking action against rouge elements
Going after in their den !!!

That is why Turkish Armed froces are Best in our side of word!!! That is how Pakistan should have acted in Afghanistan occupy whole region

We are digging trenches while Turkey Takes care of business

Arkadash-im!!! Don't be too harsh on yourselves!! You're taking care of a 7x larger enemy and a rudder-less solo Super Power on 24/7 basis!!!! As for the dangerous game, none can come within light years of you!!!! What's about "'if Pak goes down the rest of the world will follow her" - corroborated by the US studies to be true??????

 

[Mucahit]

This Am*rican c*nt has some audacity to threaten Turkish people like this when they arm and support separatist terrorist groups right in front of Turkey's border.

 

[Dalit]

Let's be honest here..

Turkey doesn't want war with Syria; they want to make sure the Kurds don't get an independent state. The Kurds and the Syrian troops have mostly avoided fighting each other... stop with the fake news.

I understand why Turks are pissed off with the pkk and kurds for bombing turkish cities. If Kurds want freedom that's the wrong way to go about things. By bombing civilians you're going to piss off the local population and lose support. Try using peaceful protests, if it turns nasty then defend yourself then you'll get more support both locally and internationally. This is what we were trying to teach Kurds...

The further Turkey presses on the worse it will be for you. Things will never be the same from an economic stand point.

Always have I supported Turkey in the past but this has gone to far. This is not how allies are supposed to behave...

We had a plan for Syria for peace in the region.

It's not logical for Turkey to be in this position... This just opens the door for Turkey to be attcked.. Don't be over confident either... Your Military has no experience in a major war.

Americans at odds with half the world. What is new?

So now Protecting your own neighborhood is considered Problematic ? Good to know, in that case i will say Turkey should be more Problematic , I am with them

The US is now on the same path with Turkey as it is with Pakistan. The only difference is that Turkey knows how to truly respond to American terror and Pakistan usually doesn't.

The Turks have shown how you eliminate US sponsored terror army. You do it by force and action. Not by empty words.

This Am*rican c*nt has some audacity to threaten Turkish people like this when they arm and support separatist terrorist groups right in front of Turkey's border.

It is not only in front of Turkey's border. These American cunts have been playing this game everywhere.

What a sight to see the US run amok by Trump. America has got its wish. It is payback time now. No one is taking crap by these Americans anymore. Everyone is staring them in the eyes. From the UN Jerusalem vote to all other conflicts. The world is clearly opposed to Trumpland. Trumpland is a villain.

 

[damm1t]

Dangerous game? Lol this is Middle East...

 

[UkroTurk]

Turkey isnt playing but have been moderating the game for 500 years there.
The one who trys to found a new country against Turkey, is in grave danger.

 

[Dalit]

At the moment, Syria, Russia, Iran and Turkey are on same page - deny Kurdish separatists establish any defecto state like entity using US presence and arms support. All 4 countries are on same page for giving US a boot from Syria and Iraq. There had been behind the scene coordination among 4 countries to this end. Rest of optics does not matter.

The US is going to lose all the wars it is fighting. The emerging powers have cornered the US in every hotspot around the world.