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Turkey holds Russian cargo ships in Black Sea

muhahahahaha

We have to block them, no Bosborus for you ships.

If Turkey block Bosporus, it will mean war. No NATO forces will aid Turkey if Turkey is the aggressor... Turkey need to stop provoke Russia and learn to live peacefully with its neighbors, especially Russia.
 
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If Turkey block Bosporus, it will mean war. No NATO forces will aid Turkey if Turkey is the aggressor... Turkey need to stop provoke Russia and learn to live peacefully with its neighbors, especially Russia.
So what you are saying is that we should accept all that Russia is throwing at us?
Be another Ukraine or Georgia?
 
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So what you are saying is that we should accept all that Russia is throwing at us?
Be another Ukraine or Georgia?

Nope. But you don't block international waterway. If Turkey is smart, it should look like a victim of Russian aggression, instead of being the aggressor. Shooting down Russian warplanes while Israel gave warnings does not make
Turkey look good. Just saying.
 
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Nope. But you don't block international waterway. If Turkey is smart, it should look like a victim of Russian aggression, instead of being the aggressor. Shooting down Russian warplanes while Israel gave warnings does not make
Turkey look good. Just saying.
We can only block it in a war situation,since thats not the case,we cant block anything.
We did give warnings before,for a whole month,they didnt listen.
What was a Russian bomber doing in that area when the closest ISIS territory is 250 km away?
So,first the Russians sent out a message like,''we own the place'',then Turkiye did,''wrong place'',thats it.
 
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War in middle east, really is an infection..Iran somehow has mannaged to avoid it agaist all odds. I hope turkey doesnt get infected..
 
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War in middle east, really is an infection..Iran somehow has mannaged to avoid it agaist all odds. I hope turkey doesnt get infected..

We are moving towards WW3.
Iran is playing with fire, its alliance with Russia will not be tolerated. The embargoes against both countries will become much more severe. Iran is and was supporting terrorists especially PKK, YPG, DAESH and others to fight proxy wars in the Near and Middle East.
 
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We are moving towards WW3.
Iran is playing with fire, its alliance with Russia will not be tolerated. The embargoes against both countries will become much more severe. Iran is and was supporting terrorists especially PKK, YPG, DAESH and others to fight proxy wars in the Near and Middle East.

Yes, but missed out a major player in that alliance.. China.. .. [tolerated by who?]
And you cant afford to lose media war. To the whole world ISIS is the worst of all. & everyone sees Iran as a supporter of russia against ISIS.. And if russia somehow managesss to convince the world that turkey is buying oil from ISIS and supporting them.. Don't u think that NATO will abandon you.? ..
Iran got out, turkey is just picking up the fight.. . Just look at USA, why did they withdraw their sams from turkey when u looked on to russian jets.. when russia is clearly bombing the "moderate rebels" why isnt US doing any thing.. .
Turkey should pick the battles wisely... U have sent russia a clear message... I think that adventure turned up a alright.... I think its enough to prove your might ..
 
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Yes, but missed out a major player in that alliance.. China.. .. [tolerated by who?]
And you cant afford to lose media war. To the whole world ISIS is the worst of all. & everyone sees Iran as a supporter of russia against ISIS.. And if russia somehow managesss to convince the world that turkey is buying oil from ISIS and supporting them.. Don't u think that NATO will abandon you.? ..
Iran got out, turkey is just picking up the fight.. . Just look at USA, why did they withdraw their sams from turkey when u looked on to russian jets.. when russia is clearly bombing the "moderate rebels" why isnt US doing any thing.. .
Turkey should pick the battles wisely... U have sent russia a clear message... I think that adventure turned up a alright.... I think its enough to prove your might ..

Please read greatest German weekly Journal Spiegel :

Satellitenfotos: Erdogan und Putin streiten weiter über Öl an IS - SPIEGEL ONLINE

" There is no evidence that Turkey ever got oil from IS, there is no evidence that Turkey supported IS. But Turkey waited too long to combat IS active "! That's European opinion. Same as US opinion. Whom cares Russia.
 
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:rofl: please don't invade Russia. Pardon them you mighty warriors :cheesy:

No. You should bow down to Turkish feet and apologize then your your request will be accepted. :agree:

We are moving towards WW3.
Iran is playing with fire, its alliance with Russia will not be tolerated. The embargoes against both countries will become much more severe. Iran is and was supporting terrorists especially PKK, YPG, DAESH and others to fight proxy wars in the Near and Middle East.

Asalam Alikum, bro...whats your opinion about this article? I think Iran is becoming bridge b/w Turkey and Russia. If Iran is really doing that then we should appreciate Iran.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ur-duty-to-mediate-in-Turkey-Russia-spat.html
 
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We can only block it in a war situation,since thats not the case,we cant block anything.
We did give warnings before,for a whole month,they didnt listen.
What was a Russian bomber doing in that area when the closest ISIS territory is 250 km away?
So,first the Russians sent out a message like,''we own the place'',then Turkiye did,''wrong place'',thats it.

For my information, what's the legal status of this waterway? As I understand it passes smack through Istanbul and technically should be Turkish territorial water. All ships should have to obtain permission from Turkey before entering it. Or is their a treaty which binds Turkey to allow international shipping traffic through it?
 
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For my information, what's the legal status of this waterway? As I understand it passes smack through Istanbul and technically should be Turkish territorial water. All ships should have to obtain permission from Turkey before entering it. Or is their a treaty which binds Turkey to allow international shipping traffic through it?
Passage of ships through the Bosporus and the Dardanelles is regulated by a 1936 multinational treaty, the Montreux Convention. This treaty gave Turkey control of the straits, which makes sense as the straits are fully within its territory.

Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In those days,our politicians made some dumb mistakes.
 
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Today a Russian naval vessel passing through the Bosphorus had a soldier on it shouldering a Igla AA manpad. Was Russia always this emotional and stupid ?
They are provoking.. They knew that they are cornered.. Loosing all western trade countrys because of their stupidity..

But it's OK PUTIN knows that he needs extern enemies to strengthen his political position
 
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