Turkey has reportedly struck a massive oil and gas agreement with Kurdistan

[Cheetah786]

We are allready not good with the central government in Iraq (Maliki) who's close to Iran and Shia. The Kurds in the North on the other hand oppose him and also have oil. Its rather simple. Screw the sovergnity of Iraq and get cheap gas/oil from the Kurds who on the other hand seek protection if Maliki decides to stop the movement towards independence in the KRG.

So you will help the Kurd fight the legitimate Government of Iraq ?

 

[what]

I dont know. We might suppy them with weapons. I dont really understand it, because the governments actions are undermining the sovergnity of the central government but on the other hand no one wants Iraq to fall into pieces and thats what our officials are saying too. But then again the possible deal with the KRG would be a huge slap in the face of Iraq. There would be no way back from there.

 

[LegionnairE]

Turkey can't play the protector role here,because starting a new war with Iraq is not as easy as eating a piece of cake.

Kidding? We'd bomb them already for harboring terrorists if we took them serious. All Maliki can do is to whine like a little ***** in each time our armed forces strike down some PKK bases.

 

[Serpentine]

Kidding? We'd bomb them already for harboring terrorists if we took them serious. All Maliki can do is to whine like a little ***** in each time our armed forces strike down some PKK bases.

As I said,this is not how politics work.You are gonna declare war on a sovereign state, you can't get away with that.But politcians do not see the world from nationalism and emotion glasses,like what you are doing now.

 

[BronzePlaque]

This news is just a mere speculation..None of the sides confirmed anything about this yet...Plus, striking a gas deal with KRG bypassing Iraqi Federal Government would be a big paradox after doing this :

BAGHDAD, Feb 25 (Reuters) - Turkey has told Iraq it will reject any extension of oil and gas pipelines from Kurdistan without the approval of the Baghdad government, Iraq's oil minister Abdul Kareem Luaibi was quoted saying by the state media network on Monday.

"Turkey has officially informed Iraq it rejects extending oil and gas export pipelines from the Kurdistan region to pass through Turkey without approval from federal government," the network quoted the minister as saying.

Iraq's Arab-led central government and the Kurdistan regional government (KRG), run by ethnic Kurds, are locked in a long-running dispute over land and oil rights that is fraying the country's uneasy federal union.

(Reporting by Ahmed Rasheed; Editing by David Holmes)

Iraq oil min says Turkey rejects KRG export pipelines-state media

 

[LegionnairE]

As I said,this is not how politics work.You are gonna declare war on a sovereign state, you can't get away with that.But politcians do not see the world from nationalism and emotion glasses,like what you are doing now.

ERA you used to be smarter than this. We have solid proof that state of Iraq is harboring terrorists. Which is clear act of war in itself. In past we've always acted with assumption that Iraq didn't have the power to intervene in PKK's operation. If that changes then we have every right to declare war and once we invade somewhere we aren't likely to withdraw. For instance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus

So unless Iran is willing to put it's *** on the line for Iraq the rest of the international community will sit and watch with a carton of popcorn.

 

[Serpentine]

ERA you used to be smarter than this. We have solid proof that state of Iraq is harboring terrorists. Which is clear act of war in itself. In past we've always acted with assumption that Iraq didn't have the power to intervene in PKK's operation. If that changes then we have every right to declare war and once we invade somewhere we aren't likely to withdraw. For instance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus

So unless Iran is willing to put it's *** on the line for Iraq the rest of the international community will sit and watch with a carton of popcorn.

No, the international community won't stay silent.Especially because of all the difficulties and violence Iraq has gone through because of western invasion.I would bet on anything you say, that Turkey is not going to launch a war on Iraq unless Iraq does it first which is out of debate.It will remain mostly on the level of cross-border attacks on militants.And of course Iran won't sit silent,neither many other countries around the world.But all of this we are discussing has a chance of one per million to happen in reality.

 

[LegionnairE]

^"Won't sit silently" maybe not but nobody will jump in front of Turkish army to save that SOB called Maliki

Anyway, we got bigger fish to fry.

 

[T-123456]

No, the international community won't stay silent.Especially because of all the difficulties and violence Iraq has gone through because of western invasion.I would bet on anything you say, that Turkey is not going to launch a war on Iraq unless Iraq does it first which is out of debate.It will remain mostly on the level of cross-border attacks on militants.And of course Iran won't sit silent,neither many other countries around the world.But all of this we are discussing has a chance of one per million to happen in reality.

I really thought you were a smart guy,what you mean by ''Iran wont sit silent''explain please.
So if Turkey went to war with Iraq,Iran is going to interfere?
Or do you mean if Turkey went to war against the Shia in Iraq then Iran wont sit still?
And if so whats Iran going to do n your opinion?

 

[Serpentine]

I really thought you were a smart guy,what you mean by ''Iran wont sit silent''explain please.
So if Turkey went to war with Iraq,Iran is going to interfere?
Or do you mean if Turkey went to war against the Shia in Iraq then Iran wont sit still?
And if so whats Iran going to do n your opinion?

I will answer this in PM for you, because there are some known ultranationlist trolls who are ready to derail and flame the thread and I don't want to give them a reason.

 

[revojam]

I will answer this in PM for you, because there are some known ultranationlist trolls who are ready to derail and flame the thread and I don't want to give them a reason.

I don't know what you are imagining as an atack to our soil perhaps Iran's assymetric warfare concept or thousands of ballistic missiles in its inventory but please do not forget even for a second what lies beneath Incirlik Air Base.

 

[explorer9]

I really thought you were a smart guy,what you mean by ''Iran wont sit silent''explain please.
So if Turkey went to war with Iraq,Iran is going to interfere?
Or do you mean if Turkey went to war against the Shia in Iraq then Iran wont sit still?
And if so whats Iran going to do n your opinion?

Keeping "present Iranian capabilities and its positioning in the region" in mind, Iran can only use non state actors against Turkey, They would not think about direct war with Turkey.

 

[mahatir]

Turkey's peace deal with PKK came under immense pressure from kurds themselves especially KRG whom are economically tied with Turkey now . After the brutal civil war in Syria and the atrocities kurds faced from Both Assad soldiers and Salafi extremists they realized that they would be much better off dealing with Turkey rather than allying themselves with sectarian extremist sunni Arabs and the crazy Iranian clown mullas


Iraq itself will cease to exist after Assad falls , most of central Iraq want to have their own confederation similar to the KRG and Malki will be left with southern Iraq. This was the American plan from beginning , divide Iraq into three federal states . The Sunni Arabs , Turkmens and Kurds in Iraq are allied with Turkey while Shia Arabs are with Iran .

In the Future simply there will be 2 entities Arab Sunni state in central Iraq and the KRG in the north both tied with Turkey while southern Iraq will be isolated relying on a bankrupt Isolated Iran . Central Iraq shares more than 1000 km of border line with Saudi Arabia thus giving Turkey direct land access to the gulf .

 

[T-123456]

Turkey's peace deal with PKK came under immense pressure from kurds themselves especially KRG whom are economically tied with Turkey now . After the brutal civil war in Syria and the atrocities kurds faced from Both Assad soldiers and Salafi extremists they realized that they would be much better off dealing with Turkey rather than allying themselves with sectarian extremist sunni Arabs and the crazy Iranian clown mullas


Iraq itself will cease to exist after Assad falls , most of central Iraq want to have their own confederation similar to the KRG and Malki will be left with southern Iraq. This was the American plan from beginning , divide Iraq into three federal states . The Sunni Arabs , Turkmens and Kurds in Iraq are allied with Turkey while Shia Arabs are with Iran .

In the Future simply there will be 2 entities Arab Sunni state in central Iraq and the KRG in the north both tied with Turkey while southern Iraq will be isolated relying on a bankrupt Isolated Iran . Central Iraq shares more than 1000 km of border line with Saudi Arabia thus giving Turkey direct land access to the gulf .

Well analyzed,but i dont think the US wants Iran bordering with the SA so i dont think there will be a devide soon.

 

[Homajon]

I don't know what you are imagining as an atack to our soil perhaps Iran's assymetric warfare concept or thousands of ballistic missiles in its inventory

No, Iran will close the strait of hormuz for oil-tankers heading for Europe and the US, this will be a major blow to the already broken western economy. In response, Europe and the US will force their NATO member Turkey to immediatelly stop any aggression against Iraq!