Turkey Coronavirus & updates

[T-123456]

I just hope we can get a bit of these moving businesses. Even 1/100 would help a lot.

We cant,we higher costs.

 

[merzifonlu]

Is it dangerous for Corona?

Very dangerous.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

We cant,we higher costs.

Don't interfere in my dreams Whatever, back to our point. We need to focus on controling this crisis first but we also can't sustain any economic losses. İki ucu b*klu değnek resmen. As I said, God may help us all...

 

[Oublious]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/more-then-half-million-chinese-masks-good-for-garbage.658940/


aqm PDF is defending CPC.....

whats next?

 

[Ansu fati]

We cant,we higher costs.

Of course factories which are based on physical work(packing iphones and similar stuff) would go to south east Asia because they can exploit those poor nations but definitely some more complex things that are done(for example automobile industry) and require real infrastructure&qualified personnel i am pretty sure that Turkey would get decent opportunity
Automobile industry is the perfect example where Turkey has indeed developed impressive capabilities yet we all know that turkish engineers earn lot less than their european/japanese/south korean/american counterparts(doing an offset in Turkey would most likely be first option for manufacturers when they consider replacing china) so I think that this particular industry would bring the biggest economic benefit

 

[Saithan]

Regardless of who may do what, just like 9/11, the world will impose whatever they deem necessary. For instance imposing forced disinfection of everything that comes out of China, no medicin, food will be allowed to enter e.g. Europe. Delivery from China to anyone exceeds 1-2 months. The reason, can’t trust China not to sneak viruses to your country. American style border control. Etc. China can choose to reciprocate, but what I mentioned would be the most rational steps. And companies dealing in China will diversify their supply chain anyway, so Bangladesh, other countries will experience a boom. And depending on how things go, Turkey will get it’s fair share of investments.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Regardless of who may do what, just like 9/11, the world will impose whatever they deem necessary. For instance imposing forced disinfection of everything that comes out of China, no medicin, food will be allowed to enter e.g. Europe. Delivery from China to anyone exceeds 1-2 months. The reason, can’t trust China not to sneak viruses to your country. American style border control. Etc. China can choose to reciprocate, but what I mentioned would be the most rational steps.

There is a shift of power from the West to East/China and this won't stop just because of a virus, Instead they will even become stronger. During this virus, we saw that contries with socialist economic and health-care policies such as Germany or Sweden managed to restrict this virus and will came on top. It's highly possible that the countries will again change their style of governing. Last time this happend was when the USSR collapsed. When that happened, countries though that the capitalist way of governing the economy and health-care was the best policy but this picture will change again after this virus is over. What will happen IMO is, countries will try to copy the governing policies of the countries that came on top and we will see most of the world trying to rule using a system with socialist economic and health-care policies with an overall nationalistic policies. In short, National Socialism...

 

[Ansu fati]

Regardless of who may do what, just like 9/11, the world will impose whatever they deem necessary. For instance imposing forced disinfection of everything that comes out of China, no medicin, food will be allowed to enter e.g. Europe. Delivery from China to anyone exceeds 1-2 months. The reason, can’t trust China not to sneak viruses to your country. American style border control. Etc. China can choose to reciprocate, but what I mentioned would be the most rational steps. And companies dealing in China will diversify their supply chain anyway, so Bangladesh, other countries will experience a boom. And depending on how things go, Turkey will get it’s fair share of investments.

Exactly as you said
i will just use napoleon’s words when he said that istanbul should be declared as world capital due to being positioned at the center of the world
Basically Turkey has the best geopolitical location no other country comes even close
Supply chain and logistics of many industries are destined to go into Turkey’s hands simply because it has the greatest possible location in history plus it’s fairly well developed industrial economy
Of course having the central position brings negative things(support for terrorism by various states who have economic interesrs-hint:belt and road iniative they also support pkk for other reasons I am just highlighting the economic part) but won't discuss this disadvantage here it just a mention since I talked about the location

There is a shift of power from the West to East/China and this won't stop just because of a virus, Instead they will even become stronger. During this virus, we saw that contries with socialist economic and health-care policies such as Germany or Sweden managed to restrict this virus and will came on top. It's highly possible that the countries will again change their style of governing. Last time this happend was when the USSR collapsed. When that happened, countries though that the capitalist way of governing the economy and health-care was the best policy but this picture will change again after this virus is over. What will happen IMO is, countries will try to copy the governing policies of the countries that came on top and we will see most of the world trying to rule using a system with socialist economic and health-care policies with an overall nationalistic policies. In short, National Socialism...

Last time Europe tried national socialism we all know how it ended

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Exactly as you said
i will just use napoleon’s words when he said that istanbul should be declared as world capital due to being positioned at the center of the world
Basically Turkey has the best geopolitical location no other country comes even close
Supply chain and logistics of many industries are destined to go into Turkey’s hands simply because it has the greatest possible location in history plus it’s fairly well developed industrial economy
Of course having the central position brings negative things(support for terrorism by various states who have economic interesrs-hint:belt and road iniative they also support pkk for other reasons I am just highlighting the economic part) but won't discuss this disadvantage here it just a mention since I talked about the location


Last time Europe tried national socialism we all know how it ended

Then tell me my thoughts doesn't make sense WW2 happend because of an Angry Mustache Men and the the following events of the Great War. National Socialism doesn't bring a World War. The last time national socialism was around, every fascist country in Earth wanted their own Lebensraum and this caused the WW2.

 

[Ansu fati]

Then tell me my thoughts doesn't make sense WW2 happend because of an Angry Mustache Men and the the following events of the Great War. National Socialism doesn't bring a World War. The last time national socialism was around, every fascist country in Earth wanted their own Lebensraum and this caused the WW2.

I agree with what you have said in the previous post
Actually national socialism is great but only if we speak from the economic perspective
Since i like too much history and know european pretty well i will say this
If we have social nationalism across Europe at the beginning until they consolidate power everything would be fine but once they(european macho politicians or should i call them straight away fascist dictators) got the power there will be new war in Europe as there are lots of ethnic questions unsolved(Im not even talking about the impact of immigrants and their inevitable role in the demographic change that will happen in certain countries with extremely bad statistics)
Regional war in Europe might easily lead to WW3

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

I agree with what you have said in the previous post
Actually national socialism is great but only if we speak from the economic perspective
Since i like too much history and know european pretty well i will tell you this
If we have social nationalism across Europe at the beginning until they consolidate power everything would be fine but once they(european macho politicians or should i call them straight away fascist dictators) got the power there will be new war in Europe as there are lots of ethnic questions unsolved(Im not even talking about the impact of immigrants and their inevitable role in the demographic change that will happen in certain countries with extremely bad statistics)
Regional war in Europe might easily lead to WW3

I agree on your point that the immigeant issue is unsolved and will cause chaos but there won't be a war on Europe anymore. Not between the European states at least. They decided to be friends and make trade with each other instead of fighting. We are living in 21st century. There won't be a waar happening for conquering land anymore. Yes, anti-EU voices across the Europe are rising but do not forget the fact that there are large portions of people who see each other as ''European brothers'', if a war happens, they won't be fighting among each other, but rather against the invaders a.k.a the muslim immigrants.

 

[Ansu fati]

I agree on your point that the immigeant issue is unsolved and will cause chaos but there won't be a war on Europe anymore. Not between the European states at least. They decided to be friends and make trade with each other instead of fighting. We are living in 21st century. There won't be a waar happening for conquering land anymore. Yes, anti-EU voices across the Europe are rising but do not forget the fact that there are large portions of people who see each other as ''European brothers'', if a war happens, they won't be among each other, but rather against the invaders a.k.a the muslim immigrants.

No no the immigrant issue is another thing
I am talking about ethnic questions between european states that are currently buried
As I said national socialism will be great in the short and medium term but once they achieve total control over the governing system there will be simultaneously ethnic conflict as well as against immigrants
Of course this is just prediction if european fascists take over completely the political system(full scale dictatorship)
Take for example Afd they are for exploiting anti islam feelings but according to their ideology large parts of poland are german
Or the vox party who has emerged as the second largest party mainly due to rising anti-immigrant feelings but also due to catalan separatism
My point is that european right politicians who are most likely to lead Europe in the future are doing anti muslim propaganda but at the same they are reviving ethnic nationalism in their countries by doing this they are also reviving some old ethnic rivalries
I don’t think that people in belgium see themselves as european brothers
UK is also an example where we have some (so far) symbolic increase of separatist tendencies in Scotland and N.Ireland
If you like we can continue this discussion in another thread

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

No no the immigrant issue is another thing
I am talking about ethnic questions between european states that are currently buried
As I said national socialism will be great in the short and medium term but once they achieve total control over the governing system there will be simultaneously ethnic conflict as well as against immigrants
Of course this is just prediction if european fascists take over completely the political system(full scale dictatorship)
Take for example Afd they are for exploiting anti islam feelings but according to their ideology large parts of poland are german
Or the vox party who has emerged as the second largest party mainly due to rising anti-immigrant feelings but also due to catalan separatism
My point is that european right politicians who are most likely to lead Europe in the future are doing anti muslim propaganda but at the same they are reviving ethnic nationalism in their countries by doing this they are also reviving some old ethnic rivalries
I don’t think that people in belgium see themselves as european brothers
UK is also an example where we have some (so far) symbolic increase of separatist tendencies in Scotland and N.Ireland
If you like we can continue this discussion in another thread

Yes, please open a thread and let's continue in another thread as I love to spend time thinking about the politics and I'm sure you do too . But let's call it a day since it is past midnight now. I was dying out of boredom tonight and I had the pleasure of spending time with you on thinking about the future.

 

[Nilgiri]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/more-then-half-million-chinese-masks-good-for-garbage.658940/


aqm PDF is defending CPC.....

whats next?

andddd whoosh, whole thread deleted, it never existed @Oublious ... nothing to see

@T-123456 @Deliorman @cabatli_53 @xenon54 @UkroTurk @F-22Raptor

Oublious, I will be taking this to GHQ, I got some screengrabs on my browser cache before they deleted (not even closed) the (new complaint) thread down, will update you later on this if I get response there from webby etc.

 

[F-22Raptor]

andddd whoosh, whole thread deleted, it never existed @Oublious ... nothing to see

@T-123456 @Deliorman @cabatli_53 @xenon54 @UkroTurk @F-22Raptor

Oublious, I will be taking this to GHQ, I got some screengrabs on my browser cache before they deleted (not even closed) the (new complaint) thread down, will update you later on this if I get response there from webby etc.

I see the new thread was just closed!