Turkey and Indonesia to develop medium tank

[Hakan]

I knew they developed a light tank but I didn't know about a medium tank. Which fnss vehicle do you think they will use as the platform or will they design a whole new vehicle? @cabatli_53 @ozi2000 @Casus Belli

Source: IHS Janes
Date: February 11, 2014

An agreement to jointly develop a new medium tank was signed between the Indonesian and Turkish governments in Jakarta, Indonesia, on 6 February. Turkish company FNSS Savunma Sistemleri will work with local company PT Pindad to develop the tank for the Indonesian Army.

It is understood the new tank will be of a conventional design, fitted with a turret armed with a 105 mm rifled gun and 7.62 mm co-axial machine gun (MG) coupled to a computerised fire control system. For ease of deployment in Indonesia it is expected to have a combat weight of about 25 tonnes.

FNSS has extensive experience in the design, development, and production of wheeled and tracked armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs), with the latter including the Armoured Combat Vehicle (ACV) family of vehicles, which have been built in significant numbers for the home and export markets.

 

[Indos]

I knew they developed a light tank but I didn't know about a medium tank. Which fnss vehicle do you think they will use as the platform or will they design a whole new vehicle? @cabatli_53 @ozi2000 @Casus Belli

Source: IHS Janes
Date: February 11, 2014

An agreement to jointly develop a new medium tank was signed between the Indonesian and Turkish governments in Jakarta, Indonesia, on 6 February. Turkish company FNSS Savunma Sistemleri will work with local company PT Pindad to develop the tank for the Indonesian Army.

It is understood the new tank will be of a conventional design, fitted with a turret armed with a 105 mm rifled gun and 7.62 mm co-axial machine gun (MG) coupled to a computerised fire control system. For ease of deployment in Indonesia it is expected to have a combat weight of about 25 tonnes.

FNSS has extensive experience in the design, development, and production of wheeled and tracked armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs), with the latter including the Armoured Combat Vehicle (ACV) family of vehicles, which have been built in significant numbers for the home and export markets.

I saw Cabatli posted this in the greek/Turkish defence forum he said its for the light tank is there anything similar for the medium tank availiable.
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There is no light tank being jointly developed between Indonesia and Turkey as Indonesia (PT Pindad) has already finished their light tank prototype by themselves. It must be a medium tank.

 

[ANMDT]

There is no light tank being jointly developed between Indonesia and Turkey as Indonesia (PT Pindad) has already finished their light tank prototype by themselves. It must be a medium tank.

Any link for thread of light tank prototype of PT PINDAD ?
As its told in papers, 1st prototype to be built in Indonesia, 2nd n 3rd in turkey and its talked during IDEF 13

 

[Indos]

Any link for thread of light tank prototype of PT PINDAD ?
As its told in papers, 1st prototype to be built in Indonesia, 2nd n 3rd in turkey and its talked during IDEF 13

PINDAD Unveils Locally Made Tracked APC
Posted on October 31, 2013 by hafizuddinsulaiman

Indonesia’s PT PINDAD has unveiled its locally developed tracked APC prototype codename the SBS. The prototype is said to be within the medium tank range and is envisaged to be operated alongside with the German made Marder 1A3 IFV, 50 of which being acquired for TNI-AD.



PT PINDAD has been producing several armoured vehicles for the Indonesian National Army or TNI. These include APS-3 Anoa 6×6 APC as well as Komodo armoured vehicle.

PINDAD Unveils Locally Made Tracked APC | malaysiaflyingherald

And there is a turret version also....

 

[ANMDT]

PINDAD Unveils Locally Made Tracked APC
Posted on October 31, 2013 by hafizuddinsulaiman

Indonesia’s PT PINDAD has unveiled its locally developed tracked APC prototype codename the SBS. The prototype is said to be within the medium tank range and is envisaged to be operated alongside with the German made Marder 1A3 IFV, 50 of which being acquired for TNI-AD.



PT PINDAD has been producing several armoured vehicles for the Indonesian National Army or TNI. These include APS-3 Anoa 6×6 APC as well as Komodo armoured vehicle.

PINDAD Unveils Locally Made Tracked APC | malaysiaflyingherald

And there is a turret version also....

Thanks for the informing us. I dont have much information about this,but i heard deals on last year too between FNSS and PINDAD , and thats true.

 

[Indos]

Thanks for the informing us. I dont have much information about this,but i heard deals on last year too between FNSS and PINDAD , and thats true.

Yup, the deal is of course true, but it is a G to G partnership and not between companies yet. There is a political will already to have some cooperation in tank, IFV, etc between two countries, but in term of the product to be made, it will depend on FNSS and PINDAD people to collaborate.

 

[ANMDT]

Yup, the deal is of course true, but it is a G to G partnership and not between companies yet. There is a political will already to have some cooperation in tank, IFV, etc between two countries, but in term of the product to be made, it will depend on FNSS and PINDAD people to collaborate.

We will see it in some months ahead, one of companies would make a announcement at least .

 

[madmusti]

 

[Hakan]

Tank Details PINDAD Indonesia and FNSS Turkey

 

[madmusti]

 

[u.MP]

Is Turkey going to buy these? Or is there no need for a medium-tank?

 

[Indos]

Is Turkey going to buy these? Or is there no need for a medium-tank?

@Kaan @madmusti@isoo
This is fresh news


Indonesian in Discuss for Transfer of Technology Medium Turret Oto Melara Hifact 120 mm

Today 08:16


PT Pindad and FNSS Turkey right now is developing the manufacture of medium class tank for the army . This prototype is planned to be completed in early 2016 .

" Beginning in 2016 , i hopes the prototype will be completed , " wrote spokesman Pindad Tuning Rudyati through short message to Liputan6.com , Jakarta, Tuesday ( 25 / 02 ) .

FNSS Turkey had sent a prototype light tank for the ACV - 300 tested by the Army . Whether the design will be developed from the ACV - 300 ?

" For the joint with Turkey , the model does not refer to the ACV - 300 but will be determined by PINDAD and FNSS in Integrated Planing Forum Team Meeting , " said Tuning .

Currently Pindad also do research with Pussenkav Army . Kadispen Army , Brig Andika Perkasa said when contacted separately , the results of this research will be studied in order to design suitable in accordance with the geographical condition of Indonesia .

" The tests conducted by PT Pindad taking into account the needs of the user ( the Army ) , " wrote Andika via short message .

Tank class in the development phase by the two countries will have a weight about 24-25 tons . And it will use a cannon with caliber of 105 mm cannon and this cavalry vehicle will have silhouette chassis for maximum 2.5 meters .

" The chassis includes a high turent tanks and canons . Chassis amphibious tanks can be developed so that it can be used also by the Marines , " added Tuning .

Pindad Cooperation and FNSS Turkey has been done since a few years ago . On February 6, 2014 , the two signed a defense industry cooperation in Soeprapto Building , Ministry of Defence , Jakarta, in the presence of the Director General of Defence Potential , Arise Siahaan .

In addition to the FNSS Turkey , Indonesia also were discussing cooperation tanks of other classes that belong to the company Rheinmetal German Marder . This conversation related to the transfer of technology related one Oto Melara turret Hifact 120 mm .

" Regarding the German Marder IFV so far we have been conducted cooperation talks , particularly in terms of technology transfer , " said Andika .

Pindad is one of the defense industry under the State-Owned Enterprises have made a lot of wheeled armored vehicles such as the APS - 3 Anoa 6x6 , 4x4 Rantis Komodo and a few other vehicles . For chain armor , PT Pindad still doing development on a prototype for the type of transport personnel ( APC ) .

FNSS Turkey has making a lot of such an armored vehicles likes ACV - 19 , ACV - 15 , LAWC - T , ACV - 30 and several other types . Malaysia right now is also working with the Turkish FNSS to manufacture of armored tracked and wheeled vehicle such as ACV - 300 and 8x8 AV8 . ( Ein )

Seperti Apa Wujud Tank `Misterius` Buatan Pindad dan Turki?

 

[AUz]

105mm gun isn't exactly "tank".

Its more of an armored fighting vehicle.

 

[madmusti]

105mm gun isn't exactly "tank".

Its more of an armored fighting vehicle.

For an Medium is this enough !

An Tank with an 105mm gun :

 

[Hakan]

According to IHS Janes 360 "FNSS Recently signed an agreement with PT Pindad under which it will develop new 105mm medium tanks to meet Indonesian army requirements."

http://www.janes360.com/images/assets/020/36020/Asian_armour_upgrade.pdf

@Indos @madmusti @isoo @xxxKULxxx