Turkey and China go head to head and fight it out for dominance of Central Asia

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We know that and are grateful for what you did for us, but I was talking about Turkey's relations with them, not Pakistan's. Turkey has many enemies even in the Muslim world and China has none, they are all China's close friends.

Turkey denounces maritime deal between Greece, Egypt
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...ritime-deal-greece-egypt-200807065300640.html

KSA, UAE, and their puppets like Egypt and smaller/dependent Arab states in the region are basically running on Washington's dictates.

Then you have Iranian axis, which includes Iraq and Syria, also Hezbollah. Iran is mostly reliant on Russia now, increasingly due to their dependence in Syria and to resist US pressure.

All other Muslim countries are 'free' and hence can make independent policies. Mostly you will see them have warm ties with Turkey.

I don't think Russia will tolerate a Turkic empire.

Russia does not have a say. Their influence is waning day by day. When Pakistan becomes more stable, we will export Islamic renaissance into CAR, who badly desire a return to their traditions. The same happened in Bosnia and Kosova after Communism waned, and also Turkey with AKP.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

neither...
Russia will prevail in CARs...unfortunately..

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Why cant China and Turkey agree on a common ally country to have dominance there...

wink wink

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

neither...
Russia will prevail in CARs...unfortunately..

No, bro. Russian influence is waning. I think largely China will take the place in the short-term, but it will give CARs freedom to pursue cultural rejuvenation policies and Islamization.

 

[beijingwalker]

KSA, UAE, and their puppets like Egypt and smaller/dependent Arab states in the region are basically running on Washington's dictates.

Then you have Iranian axis, which includes Iraq and Syria, also Hezbollah. Iran is mostly reliant on Russia now, increasingly due to their dependence in Syria and to resist US pressure.

All other Muslim countries are 'free' and hence can make independent policies. Mostly you will see them have warm ties with Turkey.

Every country has their own views over other countries, we can not just take what you say for granted, and still the fact is that China is a close friend of all of them while Turkey isn't.

 

[Mamajama]

Every country has their own views over other countries, we can not just take what you say for granted, and still the fact is that China is a close friend of all of them while Turkey isn't.

He thinks because they dont align with his Islamist views they are puppets. Dont take these guys seriously man.

 

[beijingwalker]

Russia does not have a say. Their influence is waning day by day. When Pakistan becomes more stable, we will export Islamic renaissance into CAR, who badly desire a return to their traditions. The same happened in Bosnia and Kosova after Communism waned, and also Turkey with AKP.

Last time after Turkey downed a Russian plane, all central Asian countries sided with Russia, actions speak louder than words.

 

[Pappa Alpha]

What is node state?

‘Node states’ refers to those partners that enjoy a particular special status, serving as bridges to facilitate cooperation between China and other great powers. They serve China’s overall interests in the Middle East and beyond. Turkey and Israel are both such node states.

 

[OIO]

Russia does not have a say. Their influence is waning day by day. When Pakistan becomes more stable, we will export Islamic renaissance into CAR, who badly desire a return to their traditions. The same happened in Bosnia and Kosova after Communism waned, and also Turkey with AKP.

Russian is not saying but doing.

 

[lonelyman]

I m not talking about religions here, I m talking about the OP article, Turkey has zero chance to challenge China in central Asia, Turkey actually doesn't have much chance to challenge anyone due to its weak economy and overall national strength.

What a stupid article by op, Turkey cannot even handle Syria and Iraq, solve Kurds Problems, erdo has picked fights with everyone and now he is on China?

he is smarter than stupid people like op while busy turning museum to mosque to get more votes

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

What a stupid article by op, Turkey cannot even handle Syria and Iraq, solve Kurds Problems, erdo has picked fights with everyone and now he is on China?

he is smarter than stupid people like op while busy turning museum to mosque to get more votes

That one simple action made Erdogan a hero throughout the Muslim world. You guys are way underestimating the power of religion and history in the Islamic world, of which Turkey is a major part, being the last major Islamic power to fall after WW1.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

No, bro. Russian influence is waning. I think largely China will take the place in the short-term, but it will give CARs freedom to pursue cultural rejuvenation policies and Islamization.

i believe Russians and Chinese have some sort of understanding on CARS..Russia will retain the stooges while Chinese will reap the economic benefits.
Im not sure how Chinese will replace Russia there.
As for Islamization in CARs .both actually agree this willl never happen in CARs read it as giving space to Turks....

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Every country has their own views over other countries, we can not just take what you say for granted, and still the fact is that China is a close friend of all of them while Turkey isn't.

No, don't take what I say for granted, you should ask people from these countries yourself. I am especially very interested to see the future for Uzbekistan, as it emerges out of Russia's shadow. I think Uzbekistan will be the leading country within CARs. What happens there will influence every single country.

 

[Mamajama]

That one simple action made Erdogan a hero throughout the Muslim world. You guys are way underestimating the power of religion and history in the Islamic world, of which Turkey is a major part, being the last major Islamic power to fall after WW1.

Youth is getting less religious quickly. There will be islamic "renaissance"

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As for Islamization in CARs .both actually agree this willl never happen in CAR read it as giving space to Turks....

It is already happening on the ground level, and governments are easing restrictions on religion and even being swayed by it.

When Uzbekistan faced rising Islamic sentiment, the government violently crushed the common people, like in the Andijan massacre, but over time they realize it is a struggle in futility.