Tunisia Elections 2011: Ennahda, Moderate Islamist Party, Leads

[JayAtl]

Again you show you know nothing about Islam but that is understandable this entire generation have been brought up on wrong information about Islam.

okay indulge me then in a good debate. why is that christain world is more prosperous? or even atheist china? beyond natural resources like Oil ( one commodity)- why is that those other countries flourish and so called islamic states run by the religious tenents are overwhlemingly poor and rife with extermism comparatively?

If allah is the ultimate benafactor - why has that umbrella of protection not been over the islamic countries? a simple research will show that secular ,christain and atheist dominated countries are so called " blessed" with more happiness- I think ( i have to look again) but on the happy citizen index ( research done of countries) why do they show up on top... are my facts not true?

 

[agentny17]

Muslims will only want Muslim rule. A rule that goes by their Islamic teachings.

What Most non-Muslims do not understand is that Islam is not just a belief or faith. It is a complete way of life with complete guidelines regarding every detail of a Muslim's life. Of course it is not forced as you might want to think but each Muslim will do his/her best to practice Islam to its fullest.

You are forced in Saudi Arabia to do certain things and not to do certian things because this is how your government understand religion. And example is that the women in Saudi Arabia have to cover their faces, hair, ect. Women are forced to do so. What if i am a muslim and i don't want to cover up or i don't even think it is part of islam ?. Same thing goes for not allowing women to drive.....This will happen very soon in Egypt too, when/If the Salafis win the elections. They are already saying that they will implement sharia in Egypt, as if we were not Muslims before or something. Their understanding of Sharia is very diff. from the way i see it. They are actually already saying that they will force people do dress in a certain way, including christians, they are saying that they want to cover or get rid of the Ancient Egyptians monuments, close the beaches, ect... They are pretty messed up to be honest with you, and that goes for almost all the so called "Islamic Parties" in all world.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

^^^ This man here elaborated my concern well as i expressed in the last page . thanks buddy .

 

[Hussein]

JayAtl> yeah we are muslims that means inferior intellectually
as you say
european domination of the world, superior army, colonialism, neo colonialism, ... this is all bullshit
indeed all it is because we are muslim... you are so damned smart and right

Anyway about the Ennahdha parti:
Renaissance Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

JayAtl> yeah we are muslims that means inferior intellectually
as you say
european domination of the world, superior army, colonialism, neo colonialism, ... this is all bullshit
indeed all it is because we are muslim... you are so damned smart and right

Anyway about the Ennahdha parti:
Renaissance Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is not trying to call you inferior . Us hindus are also poor , does not mean that we are inferior but it does mean we are doing something wrong .Don't be so sensitive.

This party seems to be something like the Indian BJP .

 

[JayAtl]

JayAtl> yeah we are muslims that means inferior intellectually
as you say
european domination of the world, superior army, colonialism, neo colonialism, ... this is all bullshit
indeed all it is because we are muslim... you are so damned smart and right

Anyway about the Ennahdha parti:
Renaissance Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

are you not able to read what I said? I did not say you are inferior( don't give your edicts brother), I showed / spoke of stats and facts on prosperity and happiness index... and simply asked a salient question. are any of the facts I stated not true? you seem to have sidestepped that... if you have to gleem anything from what I said - it was about countries and their constitution based on a religion vs ....

 

[Hussein]

He is not trying to call you inferior . Us hindus are also poor , does not mean that we are inferior but it does mean we are doing something wrong .Don't be so sensitive.

This party seems to be something like the Indian BJP .

what i am explaining as well (it is true i was over sensitive) is that there are many explanations other than religion and so
because he compared with being christian but it is nothing to do with religion
europe in middle age was terribly in bad situation
there could be more reason like:
1/ when napoleon entered in Egypt he said he found a north africa much less developped than europe and it was so easy to dominate these countries . he means military speaking.
even now who can compete with USA?
nobody
you see they can make a war in any country they want
2/ europe colonized the world and after the end of colonies they used neo colonialism methods:
see in Africa or South America where they support the dictators to weaken the country and get cheap oil
they did in Iran too
3/
we have as well ourselves to blame ourselves
for many reasons: we are divided and spend time to fight, even betwen muslims
as well we are more concerned about corruption than improve the country in a less corrupted state
and so many other reasons

that 's the religious matter that i don't get.
because they are thousands of reasons of our weakness
the obsession of islam being the bad part of our society.... get me tired. i hear enough of this bullshit here already.

 

[agentny17]

^^^ This man here elaborated my concern well as i expressed in the last page . thanks buddy .

No problem.. I just want to tell you something. I am a practice Muslim, but for me Muslims are not Islam. Because a sheikh, Mullah, ect. sees something, i have to do it or accept it. You can do whatever you want to do, practice religion your own way, but don't force me to practice it as you see it. I don't think it is part of Islam, human rights.