Truth lost? Most military records of Bangladesh war missing

[PakistaniJunior]

Of course the documents are missing, because the reality of the situation was farther from the truth they wanted to portray. My grandfather was one of the soldiers who fought in the 1971 war. According to his accounts, supporters of Mujib were busy gruesomely massacring anyone they thought to be Pakistani (even bengalis) while the Army had been given orders to not engage until orders were given, so a lot of the casualties the bengalis like to blame us for are heavily attributed to those people as well. Not being able to provide genuine proof of the mass massacre by Pak Army for the past 40+ goes to show how reliable their claims are.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You can check on Pakistani sources of gen niazi in regards to military brothels and sex slaves
And as for gen osmani not being present you can check on Bengali sources...
Most on YouTube and google, a few clicks away

Bengali sources are FAKE NEWS repeating indian propaganda of 50,000 Pakistani troops killing 3 million bengalis and raping 10 million bengali women in 5 weeks. Something which even the Nazi superpower could not manage in 3 years, only 26 years prior to 1971.

As you are the one making accusations against the Pakistan Army, can you post links to the evidence?. There is NOTHING tangible or genuine on Google.

You can check on Pakistani sources of gen niazi in regards to military brothels and sex slaves
And as for gen osmani not being present you can check on Bengali sources...
Most on YouTube and google, a few clicks away

Reported to MODS for spreading fake news against the Pakistan Army with 0 evidence.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Bengali sources are FAKE NEWS repeating indian propaganda of 50,000 Pakistani troops killing 3 million bengalis and raping 10 million bengali women in 5 weeks. Something which even the Nazi superpower could not manage in 3 years, only 26 years prior to 1971.

As you are the one making accusations against the Pakistan Army, can you post links to the evidence?. There is NOTHING tangible or genuine on Google.







Reported to MODS for spreading fake news against the Pakistan Army with 0 evidence.

Instead of drumming the same shit over and over which has created so much fuss in the community, I told you to look into Pakistani sources on niazis accounts... and I only told you to check osmani up from Bengali sources. Either learn to comprehend or don’t whine like a woman

and if you really want papers
This is from a paper published in kean university
https://www.kean.edu/~bgsg/Conference09/Papers_and_Presentations/MA_Hasan_Paper_Discovery of numerous Mass Graves, Various types.pdf

this is a western university so don’t sly away from facts but then you’ll hardly read the first page... or look up Pakistani sources for the matter, so whine somewhere else

https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldv...-bangladesh-cannot-hide-history/#8d73a0f16dfe

but no the world for no reason is against Pakistan because they want to serve the interest of the Hindu state isn’t it?

 

[Pandora]

Isnt that convenient to loose all the record which can contradict all the BS spewed by bangladeshis and Indians over past 4 decades. Kinda reminds me how Ganja brothers burnt all the record of Metro bus, Nandipur and several other projects and never they bothered to keep a digital copy for very obvious reason.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Instead of drumming the same shit over and over which has created so much fuss in the community, I told you to look into Pakistani sources on niazis accounts... and I only told you to check osmani up from Bengali sources. Either learn to comprehend or don’t whine like a woman

and if you really want papers
This is from a paper published in kean university
https://www.kean.edu/~bgsg/Conference09/Papers_and_Presentations/MA_Hasan_Paper_Discovery of numerous Mass Graves, Various types.pdf

this is a western university so don’t sly away from facts but then you’ll hardly read the first page... or look up Pakistani sources for the matter, so whine somewhere else

Just one problem with the source. It is written by a bangladeshi who is anti-Pakistani. NOWHERE in the above report does he present ANY evidence that those found in the mass graves were killed by Pakistani soldiers. He is using the FAKE figures provided by the bengali/indian governments.

Tell me, IF the above source is real, then why didn't the bengali government present those findings to the Hague to punish Pakistan for alleged war crimes?.......

Tell me, how is it possible that 50,000 troops can kill 3 million people in 5 weeks and also rape 10 million of their women?......Do the maths and then come and talk.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Of course the documents are missing, because the reality of the situation was farther from the truth they wanted to portray. My grandfather was one of the soldiers who fought in the 1971 war. According to his accounts, supporters of Mujib were busy gruesomely massacring anyone they thought to be Pakistani (even bengalis) while the Army had been given orders to not engage until orders were given, so a lot of the casualties the bengalis like to blame us for are heavily attributed to those people as well. Not being able to provide genuine proof of the mass massacre by Pak Army for the past 40+ goes to show how reliable their claims are.

Oh please.
It's pathetic how you lot try to portray yourself as innocent victims.Your government & army was acting like a bunch of rabid thugs in 71.
How do I know? Because my own grandfather was a victim of these thugs.
While the number 3 million might not be completely true, it doesn't absolve the army for the atrocities it comitted.


And before the resident retards of PDF start calling me Indian stooge, check my post history & you'll find that I'm one of the most anti-Indian & pro Pakistani posters in this subsection.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Oh please.
It's pathetic how you lot try to portray yourself as innocent victims.Your government & army was acting like a bunch of rabid thugs in 71.
How do I know? Because my own grandfather was a victim of these thugs.
While the number 3 million might not be completely true, it doesn't absolve the army for the atrocities it comitted.


And before the resident retards of PDF start calling me Indian stooge, check my post history & you'll find that I'm one of the most anti-Indian & pro Pakistani posters in this subsection.

WHERE is the evidence that Pakistan committed atrocities? If what you say is true then remember to post the links here.

 

[Sehnsucht]

WHERE is the evidence that Pakistan committed atrocities? If what you say is true then remember to post the links here.

I learned about them directly from the people who suffered.Mostly the people in my village who lived through that time.Many of them are still alive.
You're welcome to come to Bangladesh & interview them.

@Old School I understand that you aren't anti BD like many other Pakistani posters here.You genuinely are concerned about Bangladesh & the direction it's heading.Well, at least I believe that you are.

So I'll tell you this.Most Bangladeshis are pro-Pakistani & have nothing but good wishes for Pakistan.Many consider Pakistan as a brotherly Muslim nation.

But 71 is a sore subject for the people of both countries.You have your versions & we have ours and that's unlikely to change.Continuously bringing up the past will only serve to cause rift between both of our people.Which is exactly what our enemies would want.

Let sleeping dogs lie.Let us move on & focus on the future instead.No point crying over spilled milk.

May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala bless both of our countries & protect us from enemies both internal & external.

 

[PakistaniJunior]

Oh please.
It's pathetic how you lot try to portray yourself as innocent victims.Your government & army was acting like a bunch of rabid thugs in 71.
How do I know? Because my own grandfather was a victim of these thugs.
While the number 3 million might not be completely true, it doesn't absolve the army for the atrocities it comitted.


And before the resident retards of PDF start calling me Indian stooge, check my post history & you'll find that I'm one of the most anti-Indian & pro Pakistani posters in this subsection.

I never said that no war crimes were committed by Pak Army. However the figure you blame us for is ludicrous considering that alot of your freedom fighters were equally acting as rabid dogs. Let me guess, you were also told of people being skinned alive etc?

The thing is that we're not playing the victim card here. I do not have any issue with having good relations with Bangladesh and hope for the best for the people of Bangladesh as they are muslims. However i've also noticed that Bangladeshis aren't that far behind the Indians when it comes to propaganda and falsifying the truth. If you're really that confident that even 50% of that bloodbath was caused by Pak Army then where's the proof of it?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I learned about them directly from the people who suffered.Mostly the people in my village who lived through that time.Many of them are still alive.
You're welcome to come to Bangladesh & interview them.

@Old School I understand that you aren't anti BD like many other Pakistani posters here.You genuinely are concerned about Bangladesh & the direction it's heading.Well, at least I believe that you are.

So I'll tell you this.Most Bangladeshis are pro-Pakistani & have nothing but good wishes for Pakistan.Many consider Pakistan as a brotherly Muslim nation.

But 71 is a sore subject for the people of both countries.You have your versions & we have ours and that's unlikely to change.Continuously bringing up the past will only serve to cause rift between both of our people.Which is exactly what our enemies would want.

Let sleeping dogs lie.Let us move on & focus on the future instead.No point crying over spilled milk.

May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala bless both of our countries & protect us from enemies both internal & external.

Which means you have 0 evidence against the Pakistani Army because they NEVER EVER committed ANY atrocities. So much so that even the indians had to destroy their evidence regarding 1971. Nothing but shameful lies.

 

[Jackdaws]

Which means you have 0 evidence against the Pakistani Army because they NEVER EVER committed ANY atrocities. So much so that even the indians had to destroy their evidence regarding 1971. Nothing but shameful lies.

Lol. Read the account of the Pak journalist Mascerhanas. Or the Blood Telegram by the American Consulate in Dacca.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lol. Read the account of the Pak journalist Mascerhanas. Or the Blood Telegram by the American Consulate in Dacca.

The Americans also claimed that the Iraqis had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins. The observations of a single journalist does not constitute as evidence but as mere conjecture.

How about indians like you worry about the massacres of indian Muslims by indian hindus before you point fingers at others. But then again you and your kind also believe that the iaf killed exactly 350 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16.........

 

[Old School]

Guys , this is about missing / destroyed documents of Indian hybrid war of 1971 and beyond. Let us not derail the discussion. It is clear that Indo-Soviet axis were determined to hide the truth from public. That is why Indians destroyed the documents. They even couldn't dare keeping them in the state archives. They took no chance.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Just one problem with the source. It is written by a bangladeshi who is anti-Pakistani. NOWHERE in the above report does he present ANY evidence that those found in the mass graves were killed by Pakistani soldiers. He is using the FAKE figures provided by the bengali/indian governments.

Tell me, IF the above source is real, then why didn't the bengali government present those findings to the Hague to punish Pakistan for alleged war crimes?.......

Tell me, how is it possible that 50,000 troops can kill 3 million people in 5 weeks and also rape 10 million of their women?......Do the maths and then come and talk.

Mate I can give you sources written by non Bengali, just Wikipedia’s bibliography has links to many of those but you’ll still claim it’s all fabricated so better to not talk to you at all. If you were German you would say Holocaust was a hoax or Bosnian genocide a hoax if you were a Serb.
Why aren’t you talking about Forbes article that links to interview of the doctor who aborted and facilitated adoption of war babies?

only pyara Pakistan is the beacon of truth pfft

ps. A university wouldn’t jeopardize its reputation by endorsing propaganda, maybe that’s the case in your country... definitely not the west

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The Americans also claimed that the Iraqis had WMD that could destroy Europe in 30 mins.

Mate I can give you sources written by non Bengali, just Wikipedia’s bibliography has links to many of those but you’ll still claim it’s all fabricated so better to not talk to you at all. If you were German you would say Holocaust was a hoax or Bosnian genocide a hoax if you were a Serb.
Why aren’t you talking about Forbes article that links to interview of the doctor who aborted and facilitated adoption of war babies?

only pyara Pakistan is the beacon of truth pfft

ps. A university wouldn’t jeopardize its reputation by endorsing propaganda, maybe that’s the case in your country... definitely not the west

It will if nobody challenges it. So IF it is truthful then why don't the bengali government take those findings to the Hague to punish Pakistan if the bengali government REALLY believes those findings?.......... Or perhaps they themselves know the truth. Wikipedia is not reliable as they can be easily doctored by swathes of anti-Pakistani bigots from a particular country.

PS You are taking as if bengali universities are the best, producing all the world's best research and inventions.......