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Trump: ‘Iran is playing with fire, I won't be as kind as Obama’

Iran should do the smart thing and give up on their Palestine obsession, accept Israel's right to exist, and then make deals with Trump on taking out ISIS.
Very, very true.

This will immediately transform Iran from foe to friend in the eyes of the West, which will no doubt help reduce all the existential threats facing Iran right now.

But I doubt it'll happen.
 
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Do you mean genocide?
In a way, yes. You could call it a genocide.

If the Muslims continue to allow Western powers to exploit them and use them as their plaything, then the Muslim World will eventually reach the point of irreversible collapse/exhaustion. This happened to the indigenous peoples of the Americas hundreds of years ago, by the way.

Infighting between Sunnis and Shias, not to mention ethnic infighting, will lead to not only the balkanization/fragmentation of many Muslim countries, but will also give rise to a new generation of Muslims who will be very skeptical about their religion and prone to embracing/undergoing massive cultural and religious transformations.

It's already beginning to happen in some parts of the region. For example, the rise of ISIS and other barbaric groups has made many Muslims question their beliefs and turn to other religions or atheism.

The constant infighting has also made many Arabs in places like Egypt, Syria and Iraq reconnect with their pre-Islamic heritages. For example, many Iraqis these days refer to themselves as "Mesopotamians", while many Syrians refer to themselves as "Aramaic" or "Assyrian" peoples.

The Muslim World is reaching a socio-cultural turning point. If sectarian and extremist infighting continues to plague the region, then the Muslim World will end up going the way of the dodo, without a doubt.

And let's not even forget the massive depopulation taking place in countries such as Syria.
 
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Good analysis. Thank you. Most intellectuals know that there is an undeclared war against Islam and DAESH is only a part in chess as Al Qaeda was before. If we assume that in 2100 the globe will have almost 11 BIO people and muslim population in India and Africa will explode; all is possible. Including genetic targeted biological warfare which could get out of control.
 
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Very, very true.

This will immediately transform Iran from foe to friend in the eyes of the West, which will no doubt help reduce all the existential threats facing Iran right now.

But I doubt it'll happen.
If the Iranians really care about the Palestine issue and would like to see a solution, they should reconsider their stance on Israel. A couple of points that immediately pop to mind are:
  1. Virtually every other regional state has accepted Israel and their right to exist, even if begrudgingly so. Arch rivals saudi have even gone so far as to plan joint military operations against Iran.
  2. Trump has expressed his desire to make some sort of a deal with Israel-Palestine anyway, why not give him a chance and back off from some of the insane rhetoric ?
  3. There is great scope for military cooperation with the US against the islamic state and other sallafist groups in the region.
Funny as it may sound, Donald Trump and the Ayatollahs really could usher in that new era of peace he spoke about.
 
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Wait a second ... Arab Sunni Muslims and their allies support,nurture and export terror across the world but Israelis and Americans mostly threats Iran (Shia) instead Arabs ... WTF is this??
 
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If the Iranians really care about the Palestine issue and would like to see a solution, they should reconsider their stance on Israel. A couple of points that immediately pop to mind are:
  1. Virtually every other regional state has accepted Israel and their right to exist, even if begrudgingly so. Arch rivals saudi have even gone so far as to plan joint military operations against Iran.
  2. Trump has expressed his desire to make some sort of a deal with Israel-Palestine anyway, why not give him a chance and back off from some of the insane rhetoric ?
  3. There is great scope for military cooperation with the US against the islamic state and other sallafist groups in the region.
Funny as it may sound, Donald Trump and the Ayatollahs really could usher in that new era of peace he spoke about.

You sound ridiculous. Not funny by any stretch of the imagination. LOL Trump has nothing against Israel building more settlements in occupied areas and every other day Netanyahu announces new settlements. So much for peace between Israel and Palestine.

LOL at broader cooperation. We know that the biggest sponsors of Salafism are today the best buddies of the US. The US hasn't got the balls to touch these countries. Salafism, ISIS etc. are all here to stay. As long as you don't addres the root cause of the problem, you can keep crying all you want.

You can shelve your advise in some deep freezer. There is not going to be peace between Israel and Iran.

I hate to bring it you. Iran and the US are on a huge collision course under Trump. A war is imminent.

Wait a second ... Arab Sunni Muslims and their allies support,nurture and export terror across the world but Israelis and Americans mostly threats Iran (Shia) instead Arabs ... WTF is this??

What happened to you, Indian? Already having a change of heart? Weren't you guys the best of buddies with UAE and the Saudis? Now don't be so rude to your friends.

In a way, yes. You could call it a genocide.

If the Muslims continue to allow Western powers to exploit them and use them as their plaything, then the Muslim World will eventually reach the point of irreversible collapse/exhaustion. This happened to the indigenous peoples of the Americas hundreds of years ago, by the way.

Infighting between Sunnis and Shias, not to mention ethnic infighting, will lead to not only the balkanization/fragmentation of many Muslim countries, but will also give rise to a new generation of Muslims who will be very skeptical about their religion and prone to embracing/undergoing massive cultural and religious transformations.

It's already beginning to happen in some parts of the region. For example, the rise of ISIS and other barbaric groups has made many Muslims question their beliefs and turn to other religions or atheism.

The constant infighting has also made many Arabs in places like Egypt, Syria and Iraq reconnect with their pre-Islamic heritages. For example, many Iraqis these days refer to themselves as "Mesopotamians", while many Syrians refer to themselves as "Aramaic" or "Assyrian" peoples.

The Muslim World is reaching a socio-cultural turning point. If sectarian and extremist infighting continues to plague the region, then the Muslim World will end up going the way of the dodo, without a doubt.

And let's not even forget the massive depopulation taking place in countries such as Syria.

This analysis can only be applied to a handful of Middle Eastern countries. The Islamic world is much larger than Syria and Iraq.

Every country has the tendency to relate to their past. That doesn't mean that you are negating your present and future. Egyptians also relate to their past. So do Iranians. Heck, we Pakistanis relate to our past and our region has a beautiful history, but we are Muslims.

Those Syrians or Iraqis that relate ISIS with Islam need to see a doctor. Nothing about ISIS is related to Islam.
 
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Pakistan is trying to move away from the Gulf states these days and get closer to China, but Gulf Arab / Wahhabi influence is still quite high in many parts of Pakistan. So I doubt Pakistan will side with Iran.

Sudan won't side with Iran either, even though it's on Trump's travel ban list. That's because Sudan is ruled by Muslim Brotherhood members who lack integrity and wouldn't mind reversing their policies in exchange for Saudi bribes/money.

This leaves Iran with very few Muslim friends.

The Muslim World will continue to act as a plaything for Western powers until it goes the way of the Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians. Mark my words.


And this will lead to the emergence of a Turko-Persian alliance. ;-)

Thats the dumbest thing ive heard

the world muslim population is 1.7 billion and growing

it is the youngest median age of any major faith group, the highest birth rate and has always been a faith that has attracted new converts across the world

it is spread across the world with over 50 muslim majority countries and many more where it is a major minority (200 million in india for example)

it is set to become the largest faith group in the world in the coming decades and you think all these people will go the way of the Australian aborigines :cheesy:
 
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LOL Trump has nothing against Israel building more settlements in occupied areas and every other day Netanyahu announces new settlements.
President Trump, after promising a radical break with the foreign policy of Barack Obama, is embracing some key pillars of the former administration’s strategy, including warning Israel to curb settlement construction, demanding that Russia withdraw from Crimea and threatening Iran with sanctions for ballistic missile tests.

In the most startling shift, the White House issued an unexpected statement appealing to the Israeli government not to expand the construction of Jewish settlements beyond their current borders in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Such expansion, it said, “may not be helpful in achieving” the goal of peace.


read the rest here and here and a million other places.

shelve your advise in some...
says the guy who had similar tremendous conviction that Trump would never be President of the United States of America ?

but I'll keep posting these bitter truths, in fact, you might even pm me and say "Mr T-72M1, please don't tell the truth, we can't take it anymore, we're not used to so much truth"

but I'll say nyet, and I'll keep posting the truth about radical sallafi/wahhabi/saudi extremism. :bunny:
 
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You dont have to match your enemies strength you just have to be strong enough and have enough deterrence to ensure that your enemy knows that the costs for attacking you will be too high


iran for all the sanctions and restrictions has somewhat achived that


but Trump bluster is dangerous
his zionist backers will ensure sanctions and restrictions will be the norm but war will be off the table but an incident like ships colliding or a confrontation may spiral out of control because Trump or the Mullahs may not be able to back down
 
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President Trump, after promising a radical break with the foreign policy of Barack Obama, is embracing some key pillars of the former administration’s strategy, including warning Israel to curb settlement construction, demanding that Russia withdraw from Crimea and threatening Iran with sanctions for ballistic missile tests.

In the most startling shift, the White House issued an unexpected statement appealing to the Israeli government not to expand the construction of Jewish settlements beyond their current borders in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Such expansion, it said, “may not be helpful in achieving” the goal of peace.


read the rest here and here and a million other places.


says the guy who had similar tremendous conviction that Trump would never be President of the United States of America ?

but I'll keep posting these bitter truths, in fact, you might even pm me and say "Mr T-72M1, please don't tell the truth, we can't take it anymore, we're not used to so much truth"

but I'll say nyet, and I'll keep posting the truth about radical sallafi/wahhabi/saudi extremism. :bunny:

LOL

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/01/middleeast/israel-settlements-approved/

http://www.euronews.com/2017/02/01/israel-says-it-will-build-3000-more-settlement-homes-in-west-bank

All Trump will do is pay lip service at best. Why doesn't Trump apply sanctions against Israel who is also guilty of insanely illegal activities? Applying sanctions against Iran means nothing. Nada. The Americans have been bullying Iran since humans roamed the earth. Try sanctioning Israel for a change and show us how brave you really are. LOL at settlements won't be helpful. Bloody cowards.

Says the Indian who gets ridiculed on a daily basis by Trump's insane actions LOL How does it feel to have a pussygrabber leading the free world? I'm freakin' enjoying how you Indians are worshipping and cheerleading for Trump. Just wait till he snatches your beloved visas.

LOL at your facts. You can only bluff. The whole freakin' world is at odds with your beloved Trump. Even the staunchest allies aren't spared. I just loved the telephone conversation between Trump and the Australian leader. How it ended abruptly. We'll see how far your facts get you with your beloved Trump in the White House.
 
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If Iran does not back off with its Twit for tat against the POTUS of the superpower, the war is eminent.
Trump wont take it for granted.
Shock & awe encore.
Ira-Q replaced by N
Trump, with his many executive orders hurriedly signed, is working like laser beam.


So sayeth my crystal ball.
Love me or leave me.

 
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Iran should just give up on their Palestine obsession, accept Israel's right to exist. Your fight with USA and Israel will make Wahabism very strong. You need a sanction free and powerful Iran to contain Wahabism...
 
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