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The following is a sanitized detail of an actual case that happened in 1996, the time, place and people involved have been change to allow editorialize of this case by PDF member, I will provide a full report as well as the actual case detail in 1 week time. If you have read about the actual case detail, please refrain from commenting the actual detail. Thanks

The Case - Children Killer

On a warm June night, 9-11 receive a fanatic call from a woman, the call, lasted 5 minutes 38 second, detailed a very horrific intruder went into a home where the woman and her family lived, her 2 sons (aged 5 and 6) have been stabbed, herself have sustained wound to her hand, neck and body. her husband and her 3rd son is alive and unhurt upstairs

The police and paramedic arrived at the scene a little over 2 minutes. The woman greet the Police in her front porch, and the police walk into the crime scene, secure the scene and the paramedic started working on the boys, where the younger one declared dead on scene, the older boy died on route to the hospital.

The Crime Scene

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There home is a duplex, with both floor occupied by the family, there are sign of forced entry with a screen being cut outside the garage which connect to the main house. The home have been ransacked in a minimal way with a few thing being knocked over or otherwise tidy home. Blood was throughout the home first floor and as far as forensic concern, second floor is undistributed.

Majority of the commotion is in the family room, where the woman (Rebecca, position 1) and two boys (Robert, position 2 and Riley position 3) were at the time of the crime. Both boy lay where they lies and Rebecca claim she got up and chase the intruder outside the home.

The area is a upscale neighbourhood, where a residential suburban filled with detached home, a sock was with both children blood was found about 70 ft from the back of Rebecca House as shown

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Witness Account

Witness 1 : KN

Witness 1 live across the street to Rebecca, KN was also the first one outside Law Enforcement and Paramedic to first access to the crime scene, KN was a Registered Nurse. KN sworn testimony stating there is an unknown black car park outside Rebecca Residence that usually reserved for residence and KN have an discussion with KN neighbour about a car parked in between KN and her next door Neighbour that they have never seen before the day prior to the murders. When KN approach the Black Car, the car drove off in high speed.

Witness 2 : Rebecca

Rebecca claim the incident started when she awoke to the noise her son made after being stab in the chest. She herself was sliced thru her body and neck, when she woke from her sleep, she saw the intruder leaving via the living room and exit thru the garage. She then first try to chase the intruder and goes into the doorway and return to render help to her sons and call 911.

Her testimony did not identify the attacker nor can she describe the attacker.

Evidence

A knife was found to have the bloods of Rebecca and her 2 children on it, the knife come from Rebecca Kitchen and belong to a set of Kitchen Knife Rebecca own.

A second knife from the same kitchen set is tested positive with material associated to the broken screen in the Garage.

A sock with both children blood and the sideway of the back alley approximately 75 yards from the backdoor.

The nightgown Rebecca was wearing have a secondary blood transfer above her arms (eg from a raised dripping knife or other secondary transfer) which have a mix of DNA from both of her children.

The blood spatter on the floor is mostly of round dripplets, while a large amount of blood is deposited, the blood was not of high horizontal motion (ie smear into a tear shape)

The dust was not disturbed around the force point of entry.

The house is otherwise immaculate condition apart from 2 disturbances, which is the wine rack and the vacuum cleaner was knocked over.

The Suspects

Suspect 1 : The unnamed intruder.


Evidence suggested intruder does exist included the possibility of wound on Rebecca can only be done by a third party (other than herself) and there is a force entry into the premises.

Evidence suggest intruder does not exist include the lack of forensic evidence on the murder weapon, but accusation exist for other part of the house (Unknown bloody print not yet match and eliminated by all 5 residence in Rebecca house.) Possibility of a staged crime scene. Also, all valuable were untouched, suggested unlikely to be an burglary (as Rebecca witness the intruder leaving)

Suspect 2 : Rebecca

Rebecca was in a state of Postpartum Depression and in her own diary have thought about suicide, postpartum depression can be a positive motive on the death

The crime scene also does not totally satisfied with what Rebecca claim, where the intruder theory does not make sense as there are lack of evidence that such intruder exist, both lacking Physical and Forensic evidence.

The illogical explanation as to Rebecca suggest she woke up when the intruder was proceed to leave the premises, which mean she slept thru the intruder murdering both her child and she slept thru the intruder slicing her own neck.

The wound received by Rebecca and her two son does not match, the fatal wound the children received are deep cut and stabbing wound. While Rebecca receive a slicing wound with superficial cuts.

Timeline wise, however, suggest Rebecca cannot commit the crime, the Medical Examiner suggest his older son live for 9 minutes before expired. The time frame is not enough for Rebecca to call 911, place the evidence and stage the scene before his son expired.

Suspect 3 : Ron, Rebecca Husband

Ron have been in financial trouble at the time of the murders. There is an alleged incident where Ron would hire someone to steal his car and committed insurance fraud. Allegedly, Ron have hire someone to break into the home and steal his stuff and commit insurance fraud. Money is a possible motive for Ron.

Both his son and him (along with his wife) have life insurance policy on them

Ron statement to the police is that he woke up to the sound of a broken glass, and he come down and see both his sons and his wife wounded and he start applying CPR to one of his son. And his voice is captured in the first 30 second of the 911 call.


Ron was also presented in the immediate area when the murder took place. He have the mean and opportunities to kill their sons.

However, no forensic evidence suggest Ron have any relation or connection with the crime, no fingerprint was found on the scene, no DNA evidence on the crime scene indicated Ron was presented on the crime scene.



 
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If the deceased children were insured then may be husband is the culprit, as forensic suggests that there is no intruder. ( where was father in all the scene).
But there must be a forensic examination of the angles of mother's wounds to identify that she wounded herself or by the other person. Because her narrative is suspicious.
Suspect 60% mother and 40% father.
 
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interesting case we have here ---- though some of the information still missing

- Witness 1:
did KN manage to share the details of the unknown vehicle parked outside the house?
what were the date & time of sighting, considering its 1996 we can rule out the CCTV footage / or traffic cam?
- at what time KN was able to reach the crime seen? before LEA arrived on site or after?

- Husband:
what was he upto at the time of incident?
did he manage to hear anything?

- Garage Screen:
evidence suggested there was a forced entry, screen was cut through - was it from the inside or outside the door that this screen was cut through?

also i am interested in the Blood splatter on the floor, if Rebecca chased the intruder then has to be blood trail around the house to the garage?
 
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where the woman (Rebecca, position 1) and two boys (Robert, position 2 and Riley position 3) were at the time of the crime.

Rebecca claim the incident started when she awoke to the noise her son made after being stab in the chest. She herself was sliced thru her body and neck, when she woke from her sleep, she saw the intruder leaving via the living room and exit thru the garage.

Rebecca is not being honest here. She was present at the crime scene with her boys but somehow the intruder managed to force his way in, stab and kill the two boys and that didn't wake her (if she was suppose sleeping there with her boys). Remember killer cuts the glass in garage, enters into the house, goes to the kitchen to look for his / her weapon of choice .............. Rebecca honey, you are missing something or purposely hiding from us?

There home is a duplex, with both floor occupied by the family, there are sign of forced entry with a screen being cut outside the garage which connect to the main house.

The intruder forced his entry thru garage and then conveniently left the crime scene via the living room?

  • The boys were the main target regardless of who stabbed and killed them .... motive for an outsider could only be to stir fear in the neighborhood and it would happen only if there is serial killer at loose, the style and tactics would match any previous reported case and if these boys were the first ones then the killer would have struck again in same or other vicinity.
  • If and if it was someone out of the family he / she would bring her own knife / weapon, no killer would be fool enough to force his / her entry in a house and then go looking for weapon to kill the residents.
  • Husband's statement is missing ..............
  • The ages of both the boys make them lesser of targets for any killer unless he / she is psychopath or is depressed deeply ........ the history of Rebecca has both symptoms.
 
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It is an open and shut case for me all evidence especially second knife used to cut open the window pointed out that someone staged the crime inside the house and further wounds on Rebecca tells us that she did inured herself but wounds are not similar what children receive so in my opinion Rebecca was the murderer I read about similar case in wikipedia long back probably this case is the same.
 
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Thanks for the comment

First of all, let me say this is the first time I did this, it's a whole lot easier to just write everything down and discuss them afterward. But some evidence, if shown, would point to one particular suspect and therefore, it's quite hard for me to sanitize the case. And if you want to ask me any detail of the case ala Law Enforcement point of view, you can, and I will try to answer it without swinging your decision one way or another

That said, the case also anchor on Rebecca wasn't really grieve from the kids passing too, as part of Postpartum depression


How do you explain the time gap then.

If it was Rebecca, she cannot possibly take care of the crime scene, kill her sons and call the police within that 9 minutes window, that is quite strong of an evidence against Rebecca being the killer, you need to come up with a timeline that allow Rebecca to kill her sons, Pick up the other knife and cut the hole in the garage, put the socks 75 ft outside their home, come back and topple the wine rack and the vacuum machine, then cut herself, then call the police.... That's way too many thing for the 9 minutes window she have before the paramedic arrive and declare her son death...

If the deceased children were insured then may be husband is the culprit, as forensic suggests that there is no intruder. ( where was father in all the scene).
But there must be a forensic examination of the angles of mother's wounds to identify that she wounded herself or by the other person. Because her narrative is suspicious.
Suspect 60% mother and 40% father.

Yes, there are a life insurance policy on all the member of the family, $800,000 for Ron and Rebecca, $50,000 for each kids.

The father voice is captured in the first 30 second of the 911 call, I cannot show you the call because they would have to ID themselves and you can just search who did it.....I will include the call as well as every evidence on the report. But according to the father, he woke up to the sound of a broken glass, and he come down and see both his sons and his wife wounded and he start applying CPR to one of his son.

The official medical report on wound analysis suggest the wound suffered by Rebecca is superficial and was light in detail, wounds are almost all on the right hand side of her body, and Rebecca is right handed, however, the cut suffer to her neck was 1/16 inch toward her carotid artery, if the cut is 1/16 inch closer to the centre of her neck, she would have bled to death, but still, the method of wound is two extreme between her and her sons. About the angle of the wounds, the result is mixed, aside from the cuts, which can be done by herself or a third party, she also suffer bruises that most likely cannot be done by herself in that time frame during the crime, most likely cannot but it still possible. So, the result is mixed.


interesting case we have here ---- though some of the information still missing

- Witness 1:
did KN manage to share the details of the unknown vehicle parked outside the house?
what were the date & time of sighting, considering its 1996 we can rule out the CCTV footage / or traffic cam?
- at what time KN was able to reach the crime seen? before LEA arrived on site or after?

It was way after the LEA arrived, when the Father, Ron, go over to KN house and ask for help (KN being a registered nurse) when the LEA first arrived, all the member of the family was inside the house. The father went to KN house once he talk to the first responder.

KN was not able to share the detail of the car and its occupant, beside the fact that it was a black car and she saw it at a little after 3 pm when she return from work, the murder happens on 2:30 am

- Husband:
what was he upto at the time of incident?
did he manage to hear anything?

The husband 7 minutes (5 minutes 9-11 call til 2 minutes actual first responder arrive) is accounted to be the following.

The father voice is captured in the first 30 second of the 911 call, according to the father, he woke up to the sound of a broken glass, and he come down and see both his sons and his wife wounded and he start applying CPR to one of his son. Until first responder arrive and take over the detail.

- Garage Screen:
evidence suggested there was a forced entry, screen was cut through - was it from the inside or outside the door that this screen was cut through?

The official investigation would allegedly broke from the inside. But this is disputed, official report claim the screen was broken from the inside and being pushed out, however, the investigator later recanted and say it was inconclusive. But the picture took from the crime scene is like this

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also i am interested in the Blood splatter on the floor, if Rebecca chased the intruder then has to be blood trail around the house to the garage?
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There are a blood trail leading from the family room to the door (along with a latent print and a bloody print on the door) but the blood trail was not consistence with people running (as you might when you chase someone) instead the blood splatter is of round droplet as if you stand there and let your blood dripped down or it drop when you walk slowly, or smeared Like the following exhibits.

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Have a few questions that i would like to ask or do you suggest that this is each and every detail that we have to reach to a conclusion?

Well, this is the first time I do this, so it's kind of hard for me to sanitize the crime scene so it won't give out detail to the scene that lead to the case being open.

If there are fact related question (like the blood drop or weapon use in this crime) I will answer your question, but as to how to interpret the evidence, I cannot answer you that if I want to keep the case integrity...

Rebecca is not being honest here. She was present at the crime scene with her boys but somehow the intruder managed to force his way in, stab and kill the two boys and that didn't wake her (if she was suppose sleeping there with her boys). Remember killer cuts the glass in garage, enters into the house, goes to the kitchen to look for his / her weapon of choice .............. Rebecca honey, you are missing something or purposely hiding from us?

Rebecca is a very good suspect, however, as said by the ME (Medical Examiner) Her younger son lived for 9 minutes before the paramedic declare him dead, which mean he was wounded 9 minutes before the paramedic arrived. Which left Rebecca 9 minutes to kill him, stage the crime scenes and move everything in place and call the police (the call itself is 5 minutes 38 second long) which mean Rebecca have 3 minutes or so to kill her sons (both) and stage the crime scene, which generally considered impossible.

The intruder forced his entry thru garage and then conveniently left the crime scene via the living room?

  • The boys were the main target regardless of who stabbed and killed them .... motive for an outsider could only be to stir fear in the neighborhood and it would happen only if there is serial killer at loose, the style and tactics would match any previous reported case and if these boys were the first ones then the killer would have struck again in same or other vicinity.
  • If and if it was someone out of the family he / she would bring her own knife / weapon, no killer would be fool enough to force his / her entry in a house and then go looking for weapon to kill the residents.
  • Husband's statement is missing ..............
  • The ages of both the boys make them lesser of targets for any killer unless he / she is psychopath or is depressed deeply ........ the history of Rebecca has both symptoms.

Nice suggestion, and I have added the father statement during the 7 between he wake up to paramedic arrived on the case file.

It is an open and shut case for me all evidence especially second knife used to cut open the window pointed out that someone staged the crime inside the house and further wounds on Rebecca tells us that she did inured herself but wounds are not similar what children receive so in my opinion Rebecca was the murderer I read about similar case in wikipedia long back probably this case is the same.

umm, the challenge for the prosecution is to proof that Rebecca can stage the crime that can be done before the police arrive. The ME suggestion is one big obstacle as to Rebecca can kill her sons, go cut the screen, and put the sock away and injure herself within the 9 minutes window...
 
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Thanks for the comment

First of all, let me say this is the first time I did this, it's a whole lot easier to just write everything down and discuss them afterward. But some evidence, if shown, would point to one particular suspect and therefore, it's quite hard for me to sanitize the case. And if you want to ask me any detail of the case ala Law Enforcement point of view, you can, and I will try to answer it without swinging your decision one way or another

That said, the case also anchor on Rebecca wasn't really grieve from the kids passing too, as part of Postpartum depression



How do you explain the time gap then.

If it was Rebecca, she cannot possibly take care of the crime scene, kill her sons and call the police within that 9 minutes window, that is quite strong of an evidence against Rebecca being the killer, you need to come up with a timeline that allow Rebecca to kill her sons, Pick up the other knife and cut the hole in the garage, put the socks 75 ft outside their home, come back and topple the wine rack and the vacuum machine, then cut herself, then call the police.... That's way too many thing for the 9 minutes window she have before the paramedic arrive and declare her son death...



Yes, there are a life insurance policy on all the member of the family, $800,000 for Ron and Rebecca, $50,000 for each kids.

The father voice is captured in the first 30 second of the 911 call, I cannot show you the call because they would have to ID themselves and you can just search who did it.....I will include the call as well as every evidence on the report. But according to the father, he woke up to the sound of a broken glass, and he come down and see both his sons and his wife wounded and he start applying CPR to one of his son.

The official medical report on wound analysis suggest the wound suffered by Rebecca is superficial and was light in detail, wounds are almost all on the right hand side of her body, and Rebecca is right handed, however, the cut suffer to her neck was 1/16 inch toward her carotid artery, if the cut is 1/16 inch closer to the centre of her neck, she would have bled to death, but still, the method of wound is two extreme between her and her sons. About the angle of the wounds, the result is mixed, aside from the cuts, which can be done by herself or a third party, she also suffer bruises that most likely cannot be done by herself in that time frame during the crime, most likely cannot but it still possible. So, the result is mixed.




It was way after the LEA arrived, when the Father, Ron, go over to KN house and ask for help (KN being a registered nurse) when the LEA first arrived, all the member of the family was inside the house. The father went to KN house once he talk to the first responder.

KN was not able to share the detail of the car and its occupant, beside the fact that it was a black car and she saw it at a little after 3 pm when she return from work, the murder happens on 2:30 am



The husband 7 minutes (5 minutes 9-11 call til 2 minutes actual first responder arrive) is accounted to be the following.

The father voice is captured in the first 30 second of the 911 call, according to the father, he woke up to the sound of a broken glass, and he come down and see both his sons and his wife wounded and he start applying CPR to one of his son. Until first responder arrive and take over the detail.



The official investigation would allegedly broke from the inside. But this is disputed, official report claim the screen was broken from the inside and being pushed out, however, the investigator later recanted and say it was inconclusive. But the picture took from the crime scene is like this

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There are a blood trail leading from the family room to the door (along with a latent print and a bloody print on the door) but the blood trail was not consistence with people running (as you might when you chase someone) instead the blood splatter is of round droplet as if you stand there and let your blood dripped down or it drop when you walk slowly, or smeared Like the following exhibits.

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Well, this is the first time I do this, so it's kind of hard for me to sanitize the crime scene so it won't give out detail to the scene that lead to the case being open.

If there are fact related question (like the blood drop or weapon use in this crime) I will answer your question, but as to how to interpret the evidence, I cannot answer you that if I want to keep the case integrity...



Rebecca is a very good suspect, however, as said by the ME (Medical Examiner) Her younger son lived for 9 minutes before the paramedic declare him dead, which mean he was wounded 9 minutes before the paramedic arrived. Which left Rebecca 9 minutes to kill him, stage the crime scenes and move everything in place and call the police (the call itself is 5 minutes 38 second long) which mean Rebecca have 3 minutes or so to kill her sons (both) and stage the crime scene, which generally considered impossible.



Nice suggestion, and I have added the father statement during the 7 between he wake up to paramedic arrived on the case file.



umm, the challenge for the prosecution is to proof that Rebecca can stage the crime that can be done before the police arrive. The ME suggestion is one big obstacle as to Rebecca can kill her sons, go cut the screen, and put the sock away and injure herself within the 9 minutes window...[/QUOTE]
1. Crime scene could have been staged few mins before the actual murder.
2. Most weird thing is Rebecca waking up and found her self sliced. I mean wtf !
3. If murder was the motive intruder would have killed Rebecca first not children.
4. Now I have a feeling that both the parent are involved in the murder ans cover up.
5. Alarm was given a few minutes later than the actual murder ( read Sherlock Holmes : valley of fear ☺)
 
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Rebecca is a very good suspect, however, as said by the ME (Medical Examiner) Her younger son lived for 9 minutes before the paramedic declare him dead, which mean he was wounded 9 minutes before the paramedic arrived. Which left Rebecca 9 minutes to kill him, stage the crime scenes and move everything in place and call the police (the call itself is 5 minutes 38 second long) which mean Rebecca have 3 minutes or so to kill her sons (both) and stage the crime scene, which generally considered impossible.

What is the age of the youngest son? Weight and height of Rebecca? and her two murdered sons?

9 minutes after the injury or 9 minutes before the police arrived at scene? He could have survived the wounds for longer than 9 minutes in reality?
 
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1. Crime scene could have been staged few mins before the actual murder.
2. Most weird thing is Rebecca waking up and found her self sliced. I mean wtf !
3. If murder was the motive intruder would have killed Rebecca first not children.
4. Now I have a feeling that both the parent are involved in the murder ans cover up.
5. Alarm was given a few minutes later than the actual murder ( read Sherlock Holmes : valley of fear ☺)

Well, the police thought about that, but the point to this is, the younger one was declared dead on scene, and ME ruled he cannot be living within 9 minutes of the wound (so the time from he was wounded to actually dead is 9 minutes but was not pegged on anything, so yes, if this is the case, his younger son could have receive the wound a few minutes early and allowing the mother to stage the crime scene) . However, because the other boy is still alive and was anchoring to the 9-11 phone call, in this case, either both boy was stabbed together (which would peg the timeline to the older boy, which was still alive when Rebecca called 911) or the murderer kill and wound all 3 person at a different time. Which is unlikely, because there exist mixed blood (ie before clotting) on Rebecca night gown of both children. Which suggest both boys was wounded about the same time (ie about the time blood could clot.)
 
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Well, this is the first time I do this, so it's kind of hard for me to sanitize the crime scene so it won't give out detail to the scene that lead to the case being open.

If there are fact related question (like the blood drop or weapon use in this crime) I will answer your question, but as to how to interpret the evidence, I cannot answer you that if I want to keep the case integrity...
OK then.. There are my first observations.

The mother Rebecca look guilty from the very start. She claims that she kept sleeping in the same room as her children while the intruder broke into the house, cut/break the glass doing so, stabbed his first kid and sliced her throat and then stabbed her second son (she says she woke up when that second kid made noise when stabbed). This is ridiculous. The wounds can easily be self-inflected. I would like to see or know about details of the study of wounds on the mother. Their depth and angle to see if these were self-inflicted or was she actually attacked by an intruder. The comment of her being asleep while all the killings and stabbings were going on is something i cannot believe in. This makes her look guilty.

HOWEVER, what about the car that raced away when approached by the neighbor? That should be looked into before declaring anyone guilty. Just a coincidence? Even if it was, what about that sock found 75feet away from the house? Someone had to put it there. The report says that the kid died 9 min after the attack. The kid was still alive when the paramedics arrived. The call she made lasted over 5 min and she could not be making the call while she was stabbing the kids so if ever, she must have done that before the call, leaving her with 3-4 min to set up the stage, put the sock where it was found and wound her self. That is very little time even for professional or a serial killer to set up the crime scene let alone for a mother who have just killed her two kids, wounded her self and have no previous record of such violence (i think she do not have any otherwise you would have mentioned it). Also there is evidence of an unknown being present in the same house. There is a print (not on murder weapons but in the house) of an unknown person. The screen have been cut. An unknown car was seen in the area and it raced away when approached. Also it seems certain that Rebecca could not have out the sock away to the point where it was found and study of her wounds will confirm whether she could have done that herself or not.


Depending on this study, i think that while Rebecca is the one who committed the murder, there was another guy present at the scene at the same time. Now he/she can be an accomplice or just a burglar who was at the wrong pace at the wrong time. One key point here is "A second knife from the same kitchen set is tested positive with material associated to the broken screen in the Garage" The knife from the kitchen set is found to have traced of the broken screen. That knife could not have been used from someone from the outside it belonged to the kitchen set and was found in the kitchen.


Possibility One: She was helped by someone. The blood drops on the floor, thick small droplets indicate that she was wounded while standing there (by that person) and the same person left the sock where it was found and disappeared.
Possibility Two: There was a break in and she decided to use that as an opportunity to kill the kids and blame it all on that unknown guy.

Either case, it is Rebecca who is clearly involved.
 
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An unknown car was seen in the area and it raced away when approached.

That car was parked there days or a day before murder ...... no?

Otherwise the father went to KN seeking help, he should have noticed that car before KN?
 
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What is the age of the youngest son? Weight and height of Rebecca? and her two murdered sons?

9 minutes after the injury or 9 minutes before the police arrived at scene? He could have survived the wounds for longer than 9 minutes in reality?

The ages of the boy, as said in OP is 5 and 6, according to the arrest card and autopsy The mother is 5 feet 4 inch tall, 130 pound and the older boy is 3 feet 10 inch tall and weight 46 pound, the younger boy is 3 feet 7 inch tall, weight 40 pound.

9 minutes after the injury.
 
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