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But what about motive?

Financial?

They did, but this is for this Friday when I disclose the actual case detail. And I am telling you this, the case is a bit of a twist in the end...

I am waiting eagerly. The twist you mention .......... I guess it would be something like husband turns against wife and give her up or vice versa.
 
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As far as I see, the case against Rebecca is build on circumstantial evidence. She may not be in a normal state of affair watching her own kids stabbed to death and herself getting wounded. Rebecca should have the benefit of doubt. Chances of a cover up by Rebecca is also possible. Her husband was also at the scene.

The husband should be a suspect. He was in the house, he had equal benefits from murdering the Children. May be he tried to harm her wife, but couldn't do that, due to some unknown reason,

Well, depends on what kind of charge you are pushing.

For murder, the DA need to demonstrate the defendant have the motive, malice and intention to commit the murder. First Degree Murder have a lot more malice involve, second degree is minimal malice (ill intent) where manslaughter is a killing being commit without either intention or malice, or a kill with culpable neglect that so serious that cannot be charge with involuntary manslaughter.

There are certain charge favour Rebecca and certain charge that favour Ron, but to charge whom with what, that is another story..
 
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They did, but this is for this Friday when I disclose the actual case detail. And I am telling you this, the case is a bit of a twist in the end...



Well, at this stage, I can only tell you the blood print does not match the 5 at the household and is not being compared to anyone that might have access to the crime scene after the murder.

And you think that it should not be looked into further? I think that eliminating the policemen, paramedics and the neighbor, we will have proof of an unknown present in the area AFTER the killings happened and Before police arrived, that is a pretty small window for anyone to do all that by breaking-in.

Don't really know should I say this now....But anyway, I guess we are in this stage when we are talking about actual charge
Perhaps i chose the wrong words but that is what i am saying. Just said that not using the sock to charge Rebecca.
She should be charged with murder and then perhaps we can get to know about her accomplice as on a personal level, i am quite certain of existence of one.

The main concern, at this point, for the prosecution is that if they are to go with third person theory and charge Rebecca that way, then Rebecca can basically dump the whole case on the third party then play stupid and continue her claim of basically "I woke up after everybody is death" yes, that is illogical but it can be true because otherwise the case would hinged on mostly circumstantial evidence and as long as Rebecca can push through an "Alternative" theory, jury can swing either side. Unless of course, the prosecution can link the third person to Rebecca, which to be honest, there are nothing more to go on except a few theory and a few hearsay...

So you see why the prosecution unwillingness to push forward the third person theory??
Well that makes sense. :)

That would be for Friday when I disclose the actual case file, I will have follow up from what the Prosecution do, then the actual trial and then the verdict and again, the twist in the end.
Fine. I just hope Rebecca is behind bars, she is the one who did it.

It's grand jury (Only US have this system) is different than a Trial Jury, Grand Jury is a group of people that hear the pre-trail arrangement of evidence and decide whether or not there are enough clause to indict a person or persons on a crime. Basically, you can submit anything you want not matter is it physical evidence, forensic evidence, circumstantial evidence or even hearsay.
Yeah i know that man, what a grand jury is! In presence of circumstantial evidence, i think grand jury will be better That considered, i will opt for ways and route that will make sure that she ends up in jail for rest of her life or on an electric chair in a few months!!

Anyway, I will disclose the actual case in 2 days (Friday my time) and I will cover everything from indictment and the outcome. stay tuned...
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Financial?
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Definitely. Not many people insure their kids. The only reason to insure a child is for funeral costs ($5000 tops) as there is no income lost with their passing. $50,000 for each is insane considering they only insured themselves for $800,000. You could claim the kids are highly overinsured while the parents are underinsured. Most people would insure themselves for $1M and their kids for $5000 tops.

At least one or both of the parents are involved. It's even possible one of them had the other on the hit list too and the crime fell apart halfway.
 
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Definitely. Not many people insure their kids. The only reason to insure a child is for funeral costs ($5000 tops) as there is no income lost with their passing. $50,000 for each is insane considering they only insured themselves for $800,000. You could claim the kids are highly overinsured while the parents are underinsured. Most people would insure themselves for $1M and their kids for $5000 tops.

At least one or both of the parents are involved. It's even possible one of them had the other on the hit list too and the crime fell apart halfway.

Hmmmmm that is an interesting piece of information. It seems that Rebecca and her husband planned everything very carefully and for maximum. I hope both of them get punished for this heinous crime for the sake of their third child.
 
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Hi,

This looks like one of Thomas Harris's novel---.

Serial killers are ruthless people---and the perversity in their crimes has no ending---.

It is the ultimate nightmare for a parent to have their children murdered while they all are sleeping in the house---.

When we sleeps---strange things happen around us that we do not know about.

A lots of people have seurity cameras looking outwards---ie---towards---somone would have a recording of a vehicle going by.

I recall about 17 years ago---when I lived in Loma Linda---police found a dead body in the car that was parked in the residential parking lot. The car was sitting their for days---till the body decomposed and the fluids started leaking out of the car.

We assume hat we see all---but we see nothing---.
 
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Hi Y'all.

I hope you all have a wonderful week getting into this true crime games, overall, I think the game is exciting, there are room to improve (like how I sanitize the information), but overall, I guess this become quite alright, we got some good discussion, good theory and MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, NO TROLLING.....That's pretty good, I supposed.

Ok, before I review the case detail, I want you all to know that the result is a single First Degree Capital Murder Charge to Rebecca, and she is guilty of that charge, and is currently serving in Death Row in Texas.

The Actual Case detail.

This case is about 2 child, Damon, 5 and Devon Routier, 6 whose their mother, Darlie Routier was allegedly murdered during the night of 2: 31 am June 6, 1996 in Rowlett Texas.

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Defendant : Darlie Routier

Darlie Lynn Routier, born Darlie Lynn Peck (January 4, 1970) in Altoona, Pennsylvania, was accused of 1 count of First Degree Murder (Capital with Aggregative Circumstance) on Damon Routier on the night of June 6, 1996. The prosecution will alleged Darlie the crime of murder with Financial Gain and since the victim is under the age of 10 years old, under Texas Law, the murder of a child under 6 is an aggregative factor to consider the crime a capital crime, punishable by death.

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Victim : Damon and Devon Routier

The Trial

The people have submitted all relevant evidence in front of a grand jury to consider a charge of murder of first degree on Devon Routier and a charge of murder of first degree on Damon Routier with Aggregative Circumstance.

Grand Jury agree to indict Darlie Routier for the charge of murder of first degree on Damon Routier.

The Trial Started Jan 6, 1997 with Prosecution present the case to the court.

The Prosecution

Motive - The Prosecution will accuse Routier murdered her sons because of the family's financial difficulties. Prosecutors described Routier as a pampered, materialistic woman with substantial debt, plummeting credit ratings, and little money in the bank, who feared that her lavish lifestyle was about to end.

Submitted to the court the Routier House hold account have the remaining balance of $2462 in their family account and also the Routier Family is behind in Mortgage.

The Prosecution will also accuse Routier murdered her sons because of Depression.

Evidence suggest that include the bank statement, which show the family account of less than $2450 balance on June 5, a page from the diary showing Darlie's states of mind before the murders, also shown is the injury to Darlie Routier where it was different than the injury suffered to both her sons, suggest a self inflicted injury. The Prosecution will also call expert witness to testify the injury on Darlie are in line of those which are self inflicted. Also expert forensic witness called on to testify the murder weapon were indeed belong to Routier Household and is part of a Knife Set, and also forensic evidence on the screen material found on another knife belong to the Routier Household.

Perhaps the most damning evidence of all is the Persecution will Release a video, to which Darlie Routier celebrate Devon Birthday (approximately 1 week after the murder) on Devon Grave site, without grieve, and most importantly, happy.


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The Defence

The main defence is the timeline, where the Medical Examiner are said that Damon would only live for no more than 9 minutes and the time took to dispose of evidence and stage the crime scene would exceed the reasonable time that Darlie can do such a thing.


The defence also going to challenge the authenticity of the prosecution video by cross examine the prosecution witness, where there exist a longer version which show the memorial service prior to the party and the alleged legality of Government Surveillance on the Prosecution Evidence, to which, the lead detective pled the 5th Amendment (Which mean he have the right not to say anything under oath in order not to perjure himself.

Also, the Defence is going to use the same evidence the prosecution use to rebut the injury sustained by Darlie is serious enough to be in the same category as her sons.

Defence also will put forward a third party theory, which will absorb all the guilt as to the third party is responsible to the murder, not Darlie.

The Verdict

The jury reach a unanimous guilty verdict on the charge, and sentence Darlie Routier tp death by Lethal Injection.

The reason behind the verdict is that the Jury did not see the crime scene to be consistent to have a third intruder, and the entry was possibly made inside the house, using a knife which was inside the house. Also the jury did not believe the argument where the third party intruder will uses Darlie's household knife and discard the murder weapon on site. While there are patent print on the coffee table, no print was lifted on murder weapon, suggest a conflict of account to a third party existence

The jury rely heavily on the prosecution video to support the theory that Darlie was in a serious depression and killing her child is the only way out. And also, the grieve does not fall in line with a normal grieving mother would.

Ipso Facto, the jury reach a guilty verdict.

Darlie is currently imprisoned, pending her execution.

Post-Trial analysis

While most people agree Darlie is guilty on the charge and she did indeed killed, or involved in the process of killing her sons, however, most Legal Professional suggest this verdict should be thrown out of court, with prejudice, due to prosecution misconduct. Or at lease a mistrial should be granted.

That stemmed from the defence rebuttal on Prosecution Video leading to the depression claim on Darlie, when the detective pled the 5th on his own testimony, that denied a chance for the defence to cross examine the evidence, which should be enough force to throw out the evidence (of the video of Graveyard Party) and since that is one of the main reason why Darlie is convicted a mistrial should be granted and the trial should be terminated.

But that was not to be, so there is indeed reason to free Darlie from her crime.
 
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Hi Y'all.

I hope you all have a wonderful week getting into this true crime games, overall, I think the game is exciting, there are room to improve (like how I sanitize the information), but overall, I guess this become quite alright, we got some good discussion, good theory and MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, NO TROLLING.....That's pretty good, I supposed.

Ok, before I review the case detail, I want you all to know that the result is a single First Degree Capital Murder Charge to Rebecca, and she is guilty of that charge, and is currently serving in Death Row in Texas.

The Actual Case detail.

This case is about 2 child, Damon, 5 and Devon Routier, 6 whose their mother, Darlie Routier was allegedly murdered during the night of 2: 31 am June 6, 1996 in Rowlett Texas.

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Defendant : Darlie Routier

Darlie Lynn Routier, born Darlie Lynn Peck (January 4, 1970) in Altoona, Pennsylvania, was accused of 1 count of First Degree Murder (Capital with Aggregative Circumstance) on Damon Routier on the night of June 6, 1996. The prosecution will alleged Darlie the crime of murder with Financial Gain and since the victim is under the age of 10 years old, under Texas Law, the murder of a child under 6 is an aggregative factor to consider the crime a capital crime, punishable by death.

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Victim : Damon and Devon Routier

The Trial

The people have submitted all relevant evidence in front of a grand jury to consider a charge of murder of first degree on Devon Routier and a charge of murder of first degree on Damon Routier with Aggregative Circumstance.

Grand Jury agree to indict Darlie Routier for the charge of murder of first degree on Damon Routier.

The Trial Started Jan 6, 1997 with Prosecution present the case to the court.

The Prosecution

Motive - The Prosecution will accuse Routier murdered her sons because of the family's financial difficulties. Prosecutors described Routier as a pampered, materialistic woman with substantial debt, plummeting credit ratings, and little money in the bank, who feared that her lavish lifestyle was about to end.

Submitted to the court the Routier House hold account have the remaining balance of $2462 in their family account and also the Routier Family is behind in Mortgage.

The Prosecution will also accuse Routier murdered her sons because of Depression.

Evidence suggest that include the bank statement, which show the family account of less than $2450 balance on June 5, a page from the diary showing Darlie's states of mind before the murders, also shown is the injury to Darlie Routier where it was different than the injury suffered to both her sons, suggest a self inflicted injury. The Prosecution will also call expert witness to testify the injury on Darlie are in line of those which are self inflicted. Also expert forensic witness called on to testify the murder weapon were indeed belong to Routier Household and is part of a Knife Set, and also forensic evidence on the screen material found on another knife belong to the Routier Household.

Perhaps the most damning evidence of all is the Persecution will Release a video, to which Darlie Routier celebrate Devon Birthday (approximately 1 week after the murder) on Devon Grave site, without grieve, and most importantly, happy.


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The Defence

The main defence is the timeline, where the Medical Examiner are said that Damon would only live for no more than 9 minutes and the time took to dispose of evidence and stage the crime scene would exceed the reasonable time that Darlie can do such a thing.


The defence also going to challenge the authenticity of the prosecution video by cross examine the prosecution witness, where there exist a longer version which show the memorial service prior to the party and the alleged legality of Government Surveillance on the Prosecution Evidence, to which, the lead detective pled the 5th Amendment (Which mean he have the right not to say anything under oath in order not to perjure himself.

Also, the Defence is going to use the same evidence the prosecution use to rebut the injury sustained by Darlie is serious enough to be in the same category as her sons.

Defence also will put forward a third party theory, which will absorb all the guilt as to the third party is responsible to the murder, not Darlie.

The Verdict

The jury reach a unanimous guilty verdict on the charge, and sentence Darlie Routier tp death by Lethal Injection.

The reason behind the verdict is that the Jury did not see the crime scene to be consistent to have a third intruder, and the entry was possibly made inside the house, using a knife which was inside the house. Also the jury did not believe the argument where the third party intruder will uses Darlie's household knife and discard the murder weapon on site. While there are patent print on the coffee table, no print was lifted on murder weapon, suggest a conflict of account to a third party existence

The jury rely heavily on the prosecution video to support the theory that Darlie was in a serious depression and killing her child is the only way out. And also, the grieve does not fall in line with a normal grieving mother would.

Ipso Facto, the jury reach a guilty verdict.

Darlie is currently imprisoned, pending her execution.

Post-Trial analysis

While most people agree Darlie is guilty on the charge and she did indeed killed, or involved in the process of killing her sons, however, most Legal Professional suggest this verdict should be thrown out of court, with prejudice, due to prosecution misconduct. Or at lease a mistrial should be granted.

That stemmed from the defence rebuttal on Prosecution Video leading to the depression claim on Darlie, when the detective pled the 5th on his own testimony, that denied a chance for the defence to cross examine the evidence, which should be enough force to throw out the evidence (of the video of Graveyard Party) and since that is one of the main reason why Darlie is convicted a mistrial should be granted and the trial should be terminated.

But that was not to be, so there is indeed reason to free Darlie from her crime.

Well I'd like to see the insurance paperwork.
If the dad also signed the documents for the $50,000 on each of his kids I think we shouldn't rule him totally out. I'd like to hear his lame excuse for agreeing to that. I'd like to hear the Insurance Agent's excuse too as he watched them sign the documents as to why he wasn't raising an eyebrow.
 
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Hi Y'all.

I hope you all have a wonderful week getting into this true crime games, overall, I think the game is exciting, there are room to improve (like how I sanitize the information), but overall, I guess this become quite alright, we got some good discussion, good theory and MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, NO TROLLING.....That's pretty good, I supposed.

Ok, before I review the case detail, I want you all to know that the result is a single First Degree Capital Murder Charge to Rebecca, and she is guilty of that charge, and is currently serving in Death Row in Texas.

The Actual Case detail.

This case is about 2 child, Damon, 5 and Devon Routier, 6 whose their mother, Darlie Routier was allegedly murdered during the night of 2: 31 am June 6, 1996 in Rowlett Texas.

View attachment 426930

Defendant : Darlie Routier

Darlie Lynn Routier, born Darlie Lynn Peck (January 4, 1970) in Altoona, Pennsylvania, was accused of 1 count of First Degree Murder (Capital with Aggregative Circumstance) on Damon Routier on the night of June 6, 1996. The prosecution will alleged Darlie the crime of murder with Financial Gain and since the victim is under the age of 10 years old, under Texas Law, the murder of a child under 6 is an aggregative factor to consider the crime a capital crime, punishable by death.

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Victim : Damon and Devon Routier

The Trial

The people have submitted all relevant evidence in front of a grand jury to consider a charge of murder of first degree on Devon Routier and a charge of murder of first degree on Damon Routier with Aggregative Circumstance.

Grand Jury agree to indict Darlie Routier for the charge of murder of first degree on Damon Routier.

The Trial Started Jan 6, 1997 with Prosecution present the case to the court.

The Prosecution

Motive - The Prosecution will accuse Routier murdered her sons because of the family's financial difficulties. Prosecutors described Routier as a pampered, materialistic woman with substantial debt, plummeting credit ratings, and little money in the bank, who feared that her lavish lifestyle was about to end.

Submitted to the court the Routier House hold account have the remaining balance of $2462 in their family account and also the Routier Family is behind in Mortgage.

The Prosecution will also accuse Routier murdered her sons because of Depression.

Evidence suggest that include the bank statement, which show the family account of less than $2450 balance on June 5, a page from the diary showing Darlie's states of mind before the murders, also shown is the injury to Darlie Routier where it was different than the injury suffered to both her sons, suggest a self inflicted injury. The Prosecution will also call expert witness to testify the injury on Darlie are in line of those which are self inflicted. Also expert forensic witness called on to testify the murder weapon were indeed belong to Routier Household and is part of a Knife Set, and also forensic evidence on the screen material found on another knife belong to the Routier Household.

Perhaps the most damning evidence of all is the Persecution will Release a video, to which Darlie Routier celebrate Devon Birthday (approximately 1 week after the murder) on Devon Grave site, without grieve, and most importantly, happy.


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The Defence

The main defence is the timeline, where the Medical Examiner are said that Damon would only live for no more than 9 minutes and the time took to dispose of evidence and stage the crime scene would exceed the reasonable time that Darlie can do such a thing.


The defence also going to challenge the authenticity of the prosecution video by cross examine the prosecution witness, where there exist a longer version which show the memorial service prior to the party and the alleged legality of Government Surveillance on the Prosecution Evidence, to which, the lead detective pled the 5th Amendment (Which mean he have the right not to say anything under oath in order not to perjure himself.

Also, the Defence is going to use the same evidence the prosecution use to rebut the injury sustained by Darlie is serious enough to be in the same category as her sons.

Defence also will put forward a third party theory, which will absorb all the guilt as to the third party is responsible to the murder, not Darlie.

The Verdict

The jury reach a unanimous guilty verdict on the charge, and sentence Darlie Routier tp death by Lethal Injection.

The reason behind the verdict is that the Jury did not see the crime scene to be consistent to have a third intruder, and the entry was possibly made inside the house, using a knife which was inside the house. Also the jury did not believe the argument where the third party intruder will uses Darlie's household knife and discard the murder weapon on site. While there are patent print on the coffee table, no print was lifted on murder weapon, suggest a conflict of account to a third party existence

The jury rely heavily on the prosecution video to support the theory that Darlie was in a serious depression and killing her child is the only way out. And also, the grieve does not fall in line with a normal grieving mother would.

Ipso Facto, the jury reach a guilty verdict.

Darlie is currently imprisoned, pending her execution.

Post-Trial analysis

While most people agree Darlie is guilty on the charge and she did indeed killed, or involved in the process of killing her sons, however, most Legal Professional suggest this verdict should be thrown out of court, with prejudice, due to prosecution misconduct. Or at lease a mistrial should be granted.

That stemmed from the defence rebuttal on Prosecution Video leading to the depression claim on Darlie, when the detective pled the 5th on his own testimony, that denied a chance for the defence to cross examine the evidence, which should be enough force to throw out the evidence (of the video of Graveyard Party) and since that is one of the main reason why Darlie is convicted a mistrial should be granted and the trial should be terminated.

But that was not to be, so there is indeed reason to free Darlie from her crime.
Seems like most of the people got it right then. :)
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Well I'd like to see the insurance paperwork.
If the dad also signed the documents for the $50,000 on each of his kids I think we shouldn't rule him totally out. I'd like to hear his lame excuse for agreeing to that. I'd like to hear the Insurance Agent's excuse too as he watched them sign the documents as to why he wasn't raising an eyebrow.

The thing is, the prosecution is going for the depression motive, and in court, you do not need to prove motive (the prosecution only need to prove guilt) Which mean if they need to dig into the financial motive, the persecution will have to open a whole other can of worms. Which they may not possibly want.

The insurance paperwork is circumstantial, to which they can argue for it either way, which do no good in this case because of lack of actual evidence point to the dad's guilt. But yeah, there are suspicion over this, but that alone cannot be work on because you also need to look at other evidence pointing.

BTW, are you by chance an insurance salesman? You know hack a lot about Insurance

Seems like most of the people got it right then. :)
PDFs got Talent :D

Well, I think this case is quite clean cuts, a lot of prelim evidence suggest the mother to be the guilty part (or may be I written that way?? I don't know) anyway, there are a few point I think PDF folks here are quite close to what the actual persecution will do.

Well, I am prepping the next case, I may be able to put it on tomorrow, but I am quite busy these 2 days as I have an actual case to analyse......
 
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BTW, are you by chance an insurance salesman? You know hack a lot about Insurance

I've been in an Insurance Agent office's before dealing with Life Insurance (mine). This isn't something you complete in 5 minutes. Every nickel is argued about. You don't just casually say "oh can I buy a policy for my kids for $50,000 each" and just hand them a check. It doesn't work that way. Think of it like signing for a new mortgage or buying a car from a used car salesman. I bet if I took out $50K on my kids he (or his company) would call the cops on me.
 
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I've been in an Insurance Agent office's before dealing with Life Insurance (mine). This isn't something you complete in 5 minutes. Every nickel is argued about. You don't just casually say "oh can I buy a policy for my kids for $50,000 each" and just hand them a check. It doesn't work that way. Think of it like signing for a new mortgage or buying a car from a used car salesman. I bet if I took out $50K on my kids he (or his company) would call the cops on me.

well, I cannot tell you whether or not you are right or not, as these was not actually argue in court for that case, the prosecution does not make this case as a financial motive, nor did they actually prove this is the case. And I know nothing on buying insurance (well, I did have an insurance for myself)

But my guess is that, the Routier was quite rich before the murder, the very notion for them to buy insurance over their children is susceptive (They can afford half a mil home but cannot fork out 5 grand for funeral just in case?) Couple to the fact the murder happened in the 90s and they would have bought their insurance back then, the checking or arguing may not be that stringent....I recall I can get a credit card when I was still in high school when I was 18 and I have not had a job or anything, that card almost ruined my life and I guess the financial service and regulation is a bit lax back in the 90s.

But that was just my guess and opinion, as I said, I don't really know how the insurance game work.
 
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.I recall I can get a credit card when I was still in high school when I was 18 and I have not had a job or anything, that card almost ruined my life and I guess the financial service and regulation is a bit lax back in the 90s.

But that was just my guess and opinion, as I said, I don't really know how the insurance game work.

Late '80s for me. Filled out Citibank, Amex, Chase, and First Financial with no job.

I think it is pretty standard for late teens to run up credit card debt. I even did the cash advances. Not sure how high I gradually got it (probably ~$5K). Paid it all off about 5 years later. Never intentionally carried a balance since then.
 
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The thing is, the prosecution is going for the depression motive, and in court, you do not need to prove motive (the prosecution only need to prove guilt) Which mean if they need to dig into the financial motive, the persecution will have to open a whole other can of worms. Which they may not possibly want.

The insurance paperwork is circumstantial, to which they can argue for it either way, which do no good in this case because of lack of actual evidence point to the dad's guilt. But yeah, there are suspicion over this, but that alone cannot be work on because you also need to look at other evidence pointing.

BTW, are you by chance an insurance salesman? You know hack a lot about Insurance



Well, I think this case is quite clean cuts, a lot of prelim evidence suggest the mother to be the guilty part (or may be I written that way?? I don't know) anyway, there are a few point I think PDF folks here are quite close to what the actual persecution will do.

Well, I am prepping the next case, I may be able to put it on tomorrow, but I am quite busy these 2 days as I have an actual case to analyse......
Do tag me in that second case. :)
Looking forward for it!
 
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