Troubled Teenagers

[nightcrawler]

its the Hollywood to be blamed. Seriously when comparing even with Hollywood one can really identify which is more EMOTIONAL DRIVEN. Love is all; Die for Love that sort of thing is the backbone of BollyWood...

 

[David Young]

I think the main reason why troubled teens commit suicide is because of depression. When they are at the age of a teen they often get depressed about school, work, and relationships. Suicide is the third-leading cause of death for 15- to 24-year-olds, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), surpassed only by accidents and homicide.

 

[harpoon]

Prevent 'Emotional Hatyachaar' of parents and everything will be all right.

 

[Windjammer]

This study carried out some years earlier purports the problem with some particular areas in India.

Indian teens have world's highest suicide rate


The highest suicide rate in the world has been reported among young women in South India by a new study. The research is of major importance, according to the World Health Organization, as it brings to light Asia's suicide problem.

The average suicide rate for young women aged between 15 to 19 living around Vellore in Tamil Nadu was 148 per 100,000. This compares to just 2.1 suicides per 100,000 in the same group in the UK.

The global suicide rate stands at 14.5 deaths per 100,000, with suicide the fourth leading cause of death in the 15 to 19 age group. However, in the Tamil Nadu study, suicide was the number one cause of death among these adolescents.

Notably, young women were much more likely to kill themselves than young men - the reverse of the rest of the world. In Western countries, men are three times more likely to commit suicide than women.

"I was surprised to find the rates were so staggeringly high," says paediatrician Anuradha Bose, who led the study at the Christian Medical College in Vellore.

Major problem

Jose Bertolote, co-ordinator for the management of mental and brain disorders at the World Health Organization in Switzerland says: "I very much praise the authors for having done this. It highlights a major problem."

Bertolote says work in countries like Vietnam have indicated disturbing levels of suicide but until now there had been no studies published in major, English-language journals.

Bose's work, published in The Lancet, follows is the second study to reveal more women killing themselves than men. The first was in China. But it also tallies with unpublished work the WHO is currently carrying out in India, China, Sri Lanka and Vietnam. "This is something striking, unfortunately for women," says Bertolote.

"I wonder if it's just another manifestation of the gender bias," says Bose. She believes stress factors such as family conflicts, domestic violence, academic failures, unfulfilled romantic ideals and mental illness all contribute to the high levels of teen suicide. She also suspects that poor countries that are developing rapidly may suffer higher suicide rates.

Bertolote points out stress factors that affect Indian women in particular, such as issues of marriage and dowry. Even one common suicide method is almost unique to Indian women, that of self-immolation. Sacrificing oneself on a fire was the third most frequent method of suicide recorded in the study and was carried out exclusively by girls.

Verbal autopsy

To collect their data, the team in Vellore followed a population of 108,000 people from 1992 to 2000, including about 20,000 children between 10 to 19.

They suspected that other Indian investigations, using police reports of suicide, seriously underestimated suicide rates. So they used a surveillance technique called "verbal autopsy".

After a death, the community health worker in each village visited the family to finds out what happened. This information was relayed to a health nurse, who visits once a week, and then to hospital doctors.

Suicides accounted for between 50 and 75 per cent of all deaths in adolescent girls and about a quarter of all deaths in boys aged 10 to 19. Hanging was the most common method used, followed by poisoning using insecticide.

Bertolote cautions that the study group of 20,000 is too small to be extrapolated to India's population of one billion and notes that there is an established "suicide gradient" in India which rises to the south. But he stresses that these limitations do not diminish the study's importance.

Indian teens have world's highest suicide rate - 02 April 2004 - New Scientist

 

[LadyFinger]

Let children decide their academic fields according to their aptitude, something they could enjoy and naturally excel in.
Will do away with this problem anywhere
@Chauvinist @Windjammer @Horus @Nilgiri @Levina @Kashmiri Pandit

 

[Levina]

Let children decide their academic fields according to their aptitude, something they could enjoy and naturally excel in.
Will do away with this problem anywhere
@Chauvinist @Windjammer @Horus @Nilgiri @Levina @Kashmiri Pandit

Hon you've bumped a very old thread.

 

[LadyFinger]

Yeah, but this thing bothers teenagers specially where parents have unusual expectations and forcing them into professions they don't wanna go for. Happened in Pakistan too. Thanks anyway

Hun you've bumped a very old thread.

 

[Nilgiri]

Let children decide their academic fields according to their aptitude, something they could enjoy and naturally excel in.
Will do away with this problem anywhere
@Chauvinist @Windjammer @Horus @Nilgiri @Levina @Kashmiri Pandit

Its true to a degree.

But teenagers also need to be accommodating to measured advice from others.

But yes, the culture of extreme academic and social pressure needs to go.

The problem I feel stems from the typical higher education system we have now. There need to be more options and variety for studying trades and also simple IQ test certification to get job and then the company provides the specific training....rather than massive pressure for exams to get into 4 year course in university for absolutely every field, just for sake of getting a degree (which often racks up debt and more negative pressure later because of severe supply/demand mismatch).

When there are more avenues and greater flexbility to change between these avenues so that mistakes can be corrected with minimal fuss, I feel the pressure will also drop proportionately. Parents also need to play a role in this, but the structural reform needs to happen (because then what choice do parents have, they want to see their kids succeed and be the best in this rigged narrow system).

 

[Levina]

Yeah, but this thing bothers teenagers specially where parents have unusual expectations and forcing them into professions they don't wanna go for. Happened in Pakistan too. Thanks anyway

I won't blame the parents alone.
Are parents so wrong in expecting their child to study? Yes,I understand some parents can be excessively nagging and annoying.
It's the sheer pressure and competition which makes them force their children to choose a certain field.
But then I have seen children who were given the liberty to choose their career,ending up wasting the opportunity.
To children who underestimate their capabilities,parental pressure helps. Happened to me!
There are a few things that need to be considered here:

• Course content: I remember doing triple integration in my 12th and engineering which I have not used ever after my college. Why burden students with something that they might not need in the future at all?
• Style of teaching and good teachers: I don't know about Pakistan but in India teaching is not a high salaried job so not many want to be teachers. Ergo those who apply for teaching are those who don't make it to corporate jobs or who join it out of necessity. I would hate to have frustrated teachers.
• Societal pressure: Oh! Why is your child doing Economics honours?did he not ace his entrance exams? Have we all not faced such taunts at some point in our lives.

I can go on and on. Thanks for the tag.
How did you stumble upon this thread?
I was in for a shock after reading the OP's name,@Windjammer ,have never seen him post anything other than anti-India threads.

 

[LadyFinger]

@Nilgiri Rightly said. Thanks!

 

[Windjammer]

I won't blame the parents alone.
Are parents so wrong in expecting their child to study? Yes,I understand some parents can be excessively nagging and annoying.
It's the sheer pressure and competition which makes them force their children to choose a certain field.
But then I have seen children who were given the liberty to choose their career,ending up wasting the opportunity.
To children who underestimate their capabilities,parental pressure helps. Happened to me!
There are a few things that need to be considered here:

• Course content: I remember doing triple integration in my 12th and engineering which I have not used ever after my college. Why burden students with something that they might not need in the future at all?
• Style of teaching and good teachers: I don't know about Pakistan but in India teaching is not a high salaried job so not many want to be teachers. Ergo those who apply for teaching are those who don't make it to corporate jobs or who join it out of necessity. I would hate to have frustrated teachers.
• Societal pressure: Oh! Why is your child doing Economics honours?did he not ace his entrance exams? Have we all not faced such taunts at some point in our lives.

I can go on and on. Thanks for the tag.
How did you stumble upon this thread?
I was in for a shock after reading the OP's name,@Windjammer ,have never seen him post anything other than anti-India threads.

Well when i first joined, my threads were always very neutral but then your country fellows being on a very forgiving Pakistani forum, are never shy to show their gratitude towards Pakistan,... so sometimes a reminder is necessary that what goes around comes around.

 

[LadyFinger]

Actually a lot is going on. @Windjammer actually belongs to that group of Pakistan who have recently gone a bit liberal, though at other times they never fail to bring racist and religious connotations not only in India-Pakistan relationship but against the people of our very own land 'Pakistan'. So he is on the spur of the moment and he also has to comply to his party's policies.
@Levina

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Let children decide their academic fields according to their aptitude, something they could enjoy and naturally excel in.
Will do away with this problem anywhere
@Chauvinist @Windjammer @Horus @Nilgiri @Levina @Kashmiri Pandit

Yup ! I agree with that .

Lol , I remember something funny .

Once my Neighbor asked her daughter what has she planned after completing 12th class . She replied , " I want to become a Model . " Dad stopped the car and went berserk (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ ( Verbally ) But Uncle is no more