Troops in Afghanistan ... in order to keep an eye on Nuclear Pakistan

[FuturePAF]

As long as US deep state believes in its fairytale that Hindustan is the answer to all problems nothing good will happen. The US is right now a very divided place. Even the deep state is bitterly divided on many issues.

All the more reason, if Pakistan keeps getting its act together (showing backbone and routing out corruption), and India continues down its current path, that fairytale can be dispelled.

Pakistan needs to become globally competitive (Human capital development, and investing in industries Pakistan can be competitive in; medical devices, organic farming, tourism and petrochemicals/pharmaceuticals if the pipelines and refineries are built).

Biden made a comment recently; that Indian-Americans were “taking over” when talking to an Indian-American scientist at NASA’s JPL.

But when they dig past the diaspora, they will see the true strength of India or lack thereof, it’s not a ten foot tall elephant but a fancy peacock; colorful and with a nice dance to attract a mate. Tech manufacturers have learned this already, which is why, despite everything, they are still in China.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Afghanistan thekana hai , Pakistan Nishana hai..

Hamid Gul.

Precisely.

YET, the scumbags within the same establishment which this honourable gentleman once used to head, keep on peddling the line that that so called abrupt withdrawal of America will cause instability! Madness.

 

[Dalit]

Precisely.

YET, the scumbags within the same establishment which this honourable gentleman once used to head, keep on peddling the line that that so called abrupt withdrawal of America will cause instability! Madness.

Unfortunately we too have rotten apples.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Realistically 2500 troops wouldnt be able to do much against the taliban let alone pakistan. The troops are their providing advisory and training to local forces. Also special operations/intelligence is also very crucial. In all honesty I dont get what the hype is with the US keeping a small contingent of troops. It would infact serve Pakistans interest. The govt and military have both stated they dont want the US to completely leave the region esp with a resurgent isis.

lastly this isnt the afghanistan of 1999. The taliban wont role into kabul in tanks. The war has already been won by them. Biden has no choice but a political settlement where the taliban play a major role in the afghan govt. A national govt which is supported by the taliban is already being discussed in Washington

There will never be a political settlement with the Taliban if you continue to break promises that you made with them, why make the deal in the first place if you had no intentions of leaving Afghanistan?

 

[Super Falcon]

Pakistan should help talibans cripple US troops from there

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Didn’t realize the extent of the mission creep

Swear, I never imagined I would see the day when fox new would start to talk sense. Lol.

But hey, Biden and co needs to be kept on leash and under strict observation, these slippery snakes are too dangerous to world peace and stability.

 

[FuturePAF]

Swear, I never imagined I would see the day when fox new would start to talk sense. Lol.

But hey, Biden and co needs to be kept on leash and under strict observation, these slippery snakes are too dangerous to world peace and stability.

I was surprised too when I saw that on Fox News, but it seems to be becoming the consensus that Afghanistan is pointless and there is more profit for the military-industrial complex to build up against China and Russia. Also, Mcgregor seems to be an influential voice, so listening back on what he proposes shows he’s for a pullout.

Biden’s advisors will decide. Austin challenging Miley to think logically and not emotionally; who wanted to continue sinking good money after bad, is a sign that pragmatism may win out. Austin was the general in charge of the Iraq pullout under Obama/Biden, if I remember correctly.

The republicans have already started asking for a 3-5% increase in defense spending to deal with China, and the Chinese noticing.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1368605383720275969

 

[HAIDER]

in fact its good for pakistan keep them here

NATO should stay in Afghanistan, otherwise total free unleashed Afghanistan will be pain for Pakistan. Let NATO used there carrot and stick.

 

[ziaulislam]

As long as US deep state believes in its fairytale that Hindustan is the answer to all problems nothing good will happen. The US is right now a very divided place. Even the deep state is bitterly divided on many issues.


Don't worry Indian. Papa America's days in Islamabad are numbered. The Americans are going to make a mistake. They always do. Let things ignite a little.

LOL those Pakistanis don't survive. They are always caught and cut into pieces. Papa America couldn't even free Afridi. Neither could your country free Jadhav LOL

Wait till maryum turns army into sindh and punjab police
I will ask you in 5 years

I was surprised too when I saw that on Fox News, but it seems to be becoming the consensus that Afghanistan is pointless and there is more profit for the military-industrial complex to build up against China and Russia. Also, Mcgregor seems to be an influential voice, so listening back on what he proposes shows he’s for a pullout.

Biden’s advisors will decide. Austin challenging Miley to think logically and not emotionally; who wanted to continue sinking good money after bad, is a sign that pragmatism may win out. Austin was the general in charge of the Iraq pullout under Obama/Biden, if I remember correctly.

Why surprise fox news is anti establishment
They are saying this for 10 years now

Reality is USA will try to linger on in afghanistan

Mess will be bigger without a settlement

But the party to settlement should be non pushtoons and pushtoons..

Here we have liberals stucking their heads who have everything to loose in a deal..hence a deal will never work

 

[FuturePAF]

Wait till maryum turns army into sindh and punjab police
I will ask you in 5 years

Why surprise fox news is anti establishment
They are saying this for 10 years now

Reality is USA will try to linger on in afghanistan

Mess will be bigger without a settlement

But the party to settlement should be non pushtoons and pushtoons..

Here we have liberals stucking their heads who have everything to loose in a deal..hence a deal will never work

It’s true this kind of messaging has been coming from Fox News, but it always seemed like they were hedging. Once Trump got on board for a pullout they seemed to have made it the anti-establishment narrative. But until the pivot to anti-China rhetoric with this pandemic ramped up, I didn’t think they were serious in pushing the pullout narrative.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I was surprised too when I saw that on Fox News, but it seems to be becoming the consensus that Afghanistan is pointless and there is more profit for the military-industrial complex to build up against China and Russia. Also, Mcgregor seems to be an influential voice, so listening back on what he proposes shows he’s for a pullout.

Biden’s advisors will decide. Austin challenging Miley to think logically and not emotionally; who wanted to continue sinking good money after bad, is a sign that pragmatism may win out. Austin was the general in charge of the Iraq pullout under Obama/Biden, if I remember correctly.

For the bold part, we really dont want to follow Iraq example, that land continue to be in sorry state where America is still keeping its presence despite so called withdrawal.

There is no option but complete and verifiable withdrawal of America from Afghanistan. Not one soldier, not one intelligence operative , not one so called contractor.

 

[Iñigo]

Tucker Carlson is a dissident tolerated inside Fox

and the colonel Mcgregor is a lone voice and a hero for the American Conservative

https://www.theamericanconservative...d-of-tac-tapped-as-u-s-ambassador-to-germany/

the true conservative are a tiny tiny minority inside the Republican Party and the left is a tiny tiny minority inside the Democratic Party

 

[FuturePAF]

For the bold part, we really dont want to follow Iraq example, that land continue to be in sorry state where America is still keeping its presence despite so called withdrawal.

There is no option but complete and verifiable withdrawal of America from Afghanistan. Not one soldier, not one intelligence operative , not one so called contractor.

Merely pointing out the Secretary’s credentials. As per the Feb ‘20 deal, it is for a complete (no exceptions) withdrawal.

Vietnam is probably a better comparison. 15 years after withdrawal, relations were re-established, and nowadays relations are good. Afghans had relatively good relations with the US back in the 1950s when they were helping build dams and doing business, and mostly keeping out of Afghan affairs.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Perhaps the gov'ts of the USA/UK/Europe/China.... are concerned that Afghan tribal groups will invade Pakistan and cause it to disintegrate.
Result...US soldiers stay in Afghanistan to keep Taliban focused on those people instead of on destroying Pakistan's gov't.
before the USA invaded Afghanistan what was the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan like?
Wikipedia says in 1996...Taliban wouldn't recognize the border. That = big trouble.

Today, I didn't have a laugh, even though it is 8.30 pm, but still not too late to have a hearty laugh.

Around a couple dozen of them came inside Abbotabad. They martyred some 24 soldiers at Salala Checkpost, they had likes of Ramond Davis and BlackWater lurking around.
I am pretty sure USA can do a lot of things to Pakistan with or without inside approval or people.

Pakistan has many sellouts and it will continue to be the case.

If anyone thinks our nuclear program is not threatened by USA.... they can mot be more wrong.

Using terrorism apprehension, Islamic revolt inside nuclear program are just excuses... The truth is, we were always an irk to some countries and will be exploited any chance they can get, if they haven't already made headway till now.

On Abbotabad i beg to differ. That was without shadow of a doubt General Kiyani's sell out to the Yanks.
Raymond Davis, PMLN chickened out, so did PA.
Blackwater visa's thanks to Rehman Malik and PPP.
Pakistan have thieves ruling over it, who are indebited to USA and the West.

I would say what I keep repeating "Pakistan men have no b**ls". At the end it all boils down to that.

 

[Rank]

That's the reason why I always ask this question in every single thread related to

"US Army/Centcom Chief met Pakistan Chief and discussed mutual interests" WTF mutual interests? our interests are COMPLETELY Different from what US objectives and interests are...