What's new

Tricolour, anthem — India’s Muslims on why they’re using national symbols in protests Many Twitter u

Shahzaz ud din

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Jun 12, 2017
Messages
7,877
Reaction score
14
Country
Pakistan
Location
Canada
Tricolour, anthem — India’s Muslims on why they’re using national symbols in protests
Many Twitter users trolled protesters & credited the Modi-Shah brand of nationalism as the driving force behind the singing of the national anthem near Jama Masjid.
FATIMA KHAN 11 January, 2020 11:00 am IST
Jama-696x392.jpeg

People protest against the Citizenship Amendment Act and National Register of Citizens at Delhi's Jama Masjid Wednesday | Suraj Singh Bisht | ThePrint
Text Size:
New Delhi: A video of protesters singing the national anthem at Delhi’s Jama Masjid Wednesday night as part of the anti-Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) protests went viral and became an instant talking point.

While the gesture left many people overwhelmed, there were others who saw it in light of the heavy Muslim participation and the location.


Many Twitter users sought to troll the protesters and credited the Modi-Shah brand of nationalism as the driving force behind the singing of the anthem near a mosque. Others said it was the ultimate display of patriotism by a besieged minority.


Radha Khan@RadhaKhn

· Jan 8, 2020

Ends with the National Anthem #jamamasjid #NoCAANoNRC

https://twitter.com/i/status/1214954871742296065


Rastra.......alife.@Hindustani_999


What Modi has done!
1f923.png


Those who opposed singing National Anthem in theatres and gave every possible argument against it, are today not only singing National Anthem on roads but are also flaunting it in every possible way!

See Rastra=.all life.'s other Tweets


Radha Khan@RadhaKhn

· Jan 8, 2020

Ends with the National Anthem #jamamasjid #NoCAANoNRC

https://twitter.com/i/status/1214954871742296065


S.s@SaumyasinhaB14


Same people who had problem with national anthem. Quite a change.



#Intolerant भारतीय (Sanjeev Goyal)@goyalsanjeev


> Indian Flag
1f1ee-1f1f3.png

> Natonal Anthem Singing
> Chants of 'Jai Hind'

These are absolutely 'rare' sights, especially in front of a Mosque. But not anymore. #AntiCAA_NRC_NPR protestors did it in front of #JamaMasjid
1f447.png


Dhakkans CHECKMATED .. Totally
1f602.png
#NewIndia



https://twitter.com/i/status/1215156694675640321

1:21 AM - Jan 9, 2020
Twitter Ads info and privacy

19 people are talking about this
Asim Ali, a research scholar at Delhi University, said the use of national symbols was a conscious strategy adopted by Muslim protesters.


“Muslims right now are fighting for, and displaying, their faith in the symbols of a republic that is failing them. This is the highest expression of patriotism,” he added.

“This stands in sharp contrast with the decades-long rejection of the national flag and parts of the Constitution by the RSS.”

He said it didn’t imply Muslims were being coerced into showing their patriotism.

“(American writer) Ernest Hemingway said ‘courage is grace under pressure’. This display of patriotism by Muslims, far from being meek submission to the diktats of the Hindu Right, is the most courageous reclamation of the idea of India,” Ali added.

Activist and JNU alumnus Umar Khalid, who has been leading many anti-CAA protests, described it as an attempt by Muslims to redefine “nationalism”.

“When the Right-wing mob marches in support of the accused rapist in Kathua holding the national flag, they are doing an utter disservice to it,” Khalid told ThePrint. “The invocation of the national symbols by Muslims is an attempt to redefine nationalism as we know it today.”

Khalid said Muslims were actively employing the national symbols and the Constitution “precisely because it is Muslims who the CAA seeks to exclude”.

He was referring to the fact that the CAA seeks to ease citizenship for non-Muslim minorities from India’s three Muslim-majority neighbours — Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan — a provision that has been widely condemned as divisive and biased.

However, there are those who feel there was no strategy behind the use of the symbols.

“These protests have been very spontaneous, so the choice of political symbol hasn’t been imposed on the participants from any leader or party,” said Hilal Ahmed, author of Siyasi Muslims: A Story of Political Islams in India.

“So, there is no particular ‘strategy’ or ‘plan’ to use the national anthem or the national flag to show any patriotism,” he added. “Instead, these national symbols are reclaimed to assert the point that Muslimsness is an inseparable part of Indian identity.”

Even among those who were part of the protest, there are different explanations.

Social activist Irtiza Quraishi said there was a certain strategy to the use of national symbols, especially Muslims, adding that the community had been “forced to constantly prove its Indianness”.

Asked about troll attacks, she added, “Yes, the Right-wing, with the help of their IT cell, have created an environment where we (Muslims) have to constantly prove not only our Indianness but that we are not terrorists.”

“Now we have reached a stage where we feel that it is impossible to argue or debate with people who do not have any potential of being receptive to a logical argument,” she said. “So, yes, to be honest, this is a conscious strategy because there is no other way to show our love for the country.”

Another participant from the Jama Masjid rally, however, had a different take. Noma Faruqi, an Ambedkar University student, said Muslims had been singing the national anthem since much before the Modi government came to power.

“The Jama Masjid protest was not led by any political body. It was organised by students of the walled city and led by its women,” she added. “So, singing of the national anthem was a conscious choice and not an imposition or an obligation.”

Writer and activist Farah Naqvi said it would be inaccurate to see Muslims holding the national flag in isolation, adding that all anti-CAA protesters were doing so.

“Every single protest I have been to since the CAA was passed has used the tiranga. This is not a particular Muslim response, this is a truly secular national response,” she added. “Everybody is reclaiming the national symbols, not just Muslims.”

Ahmed also rejected the suggestion that Muslims were employing national symbols as a reaction to the Hindutva provocations.

“We must remember that these women and young students are the product of the republic, and national anthem and national flag are intrinsically linked to them,” she said. “This is, therefore, not entirely a reaction to Hindutva allegations.”


Also Read: ‘For how long will you test a Muslim’s patience’ — academics say CAA protests to intensify



ThePrint is now on Telegram. For the best reports & opinion on politics, governance and more, subscribe to ThePrint on Telegram.

 
Vallahi Billahi I have failed to understand these Indian Muslims!!! Looks like they’re kissing both the feet of their executioner and his dagger which is slitting their throats!!!! What a pathetic situation!!! Don’t have they an iota of Yakin left in them?!?! Instead of engaging in these useless rituals they should train themselves in self defense!!! Ahh only if they could posses one millionth of the courage, boldness and audacity of the mafia boss Daud Ibrahim....
 
Vallahi Billahi I have failed to understand these Indian Muslims!!! Looks like they’re kissing both the feet of their executioner and his dagger which is slitting their throats!!!! What a pathetic situation!!! Don’t have they an iota of Yakin left in them?!?! Instead of engaging in these useless rituals they should train themselves in self defense!!! Ahh only if they could posses one millionth of the courage, boldness and audacity of the mafia boss Daud Ibrahim....

Excellent ! The advise being given is to follow Daud Ibrahim !! Actually the BJP would be happy if those whom you speak of follow him - & follow him to Pakistan.
 
It's what Jinnah said

"Indian Muslims who refused the idea of Pakistan, will spend the rest of their lives trying to prove loyalty to India"

What choice do Indian Muslims have, the harder choice is uniting their 250 million Muslim population and demanding either equality and rights or azaadi
At the moment they hope the Indian state has not become corrupted and will protect them from the hindutva
 
Tricolour, anthem — India’s Muslims on why they’re using national symbols in protests
Many Twitter users trolled protesters & credited the Modi-Shah brand of nationalism as the driving force behind the singing of the national anthem near Jama Masjid.
FATIMA KHAN 11 January, 2020 11:00 am IST
Jama-696x392.jpeg

People protest against the Citizenship Amendment Act and National Register of Citizens at Delhi's Jama Masjid Wednesday | Suraj Singh Bisht | ThePrint
Text Size:
New Delhi: A video of protesters singing the national anthem at Delhi’s Jama Masjid Wednesday night as part of the anti-Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) protests went viral and became an instant talking point.

While the gesture left many people overwhelmed, there were others who saw it in light of the heavy Muslim participation and the location.


Many Twitter users sought to troll the protesters and credited the Modi-Shah brand of nationalism as the driving force behind the singing of the anthem near a mosque. Others said it was the ultimate display of patriotism by a besieged minority.


Radha Khan@RadhaKhn

· Jan 8, 2020

Ends with the National Anthem #jamamasjid #NoCAANoNRC

https://twitter.com/i/status/1214954871742296065


Rastra.......alife.@Hindustani_999


What Modi has done!
1f923.png


Those who opposed singing National Anthem in theatres and gave every possible argument against it, are today not only singing National Anthem on roads but are also flaunting it in every possible way!

See Rastra=.all life.'s other Tweets


Radha Khan@RadhaKhn

· Jan 8, 2020

Ends with the National Anthem #jamamasjid #NoCAANoNRC

https://twitter.com/i/status/1214954871742296065


S.s@SaumyasinhaB14


Same people who had problem with national anthem. Quite a change.



#Intolerant भारतीय (Sanjeev Goyal)@goyalsanjeev


> Indian Flag
1f1ee-1f1f3.png

> Natonal Anthem Singing
> Chants of 'Jai Hind'

These are absolutely 'rare' sights, especially in front of a Mosque. But not anymore. #AntiCAA_NRC_NPR protestors did it in front of #JamaMasjid
1f447.png


Dhakkans CHECKMATED .. Totally
1f602.png
#NewIndia



https://twitter.com/i/status/1215156694675640321

1:21 AM - Jan 9, 2020
Twitter Ads info and privacy

19 people are talking about this
Asim Ali, a research scholar at Delhi University, said the use of national symbols was a conscious strategy adopted by Muslim protesters.


“Muslims right now are fighting for, and displaying, their faith in the symbols of a republic that is failing them. This is the highest expression of patriotism,” he added.

“This stands in sharp contrast with the decades-long rejection of the national flag and parts of the Constitution by the RSS.”

He said it didn’t imply Muslims were being coerced into showing their patriotism.

“(American writer) Ernest Hemingway said ‘courage is grace under pressure’. This display of patriotism by Muslims, far from being meek submission to the diktats of the Hindu Right, is the most courageous reclamation of the idea of India,” Ali added.

Activist and JNU alumnus Umar Khalid, who has been leading many anti-CAA protests, described it as an attempt by Muslims to redefine “nationalism”.

“When the Right-wing mob marches in support of the accused rapist in Kathua holding the national flag, they are doing an utter disservice to it,” Khalid told ThePrint. “The invocation of the national symbols by Muslims is an attempt to redefine nationalism as we know it today.”

Khalid said Muslims were actively employing the national symbols and the Constitution “precisely because it is Muslims who the CAA seeks to exclude”.

He was referring to the fact that the CAA seeks to ease citizenship for non-Muslim minorities from India’s three Muslim-majority neighbours — Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan — a provision that has been widely condemned as divisive and biased.

However, there are those who feel there was no strategy behind the use of the symbols.

“These protests have been very spontaneous, so the choice of political symbol hasn’t been imposed on the participants from any leader or party,” said Hilal Ahmed, author of Siyasi Muslims: A Story of Political Islams in India.

“So, there is no particular ‘strategy’ or ‘plan’ to use the national anthem or the national flag to show any patriotism,” he added. “Instead, these national symbols are reclaimed to assert the point that Muslimsness is an inseparable part of Indian identity.”

Even among those who were part of the protest, there are different explanations.

Social activist Irtiza Quraishi said there was a certain strategy to the use of national symbols, especially Muslims, adding that the community had been “forced to constantly prove its Indianness”.

Asked about troll attacks, she added, “Yes, the Right-wing, with the help of their IT cell, have created an environment where we (Muslims) have to constantly prove not only our Indianness but that we are not terrorists.”

“Now we have reached a stage where we feel that it is impossible to argue or debate with people who do not have any potential of being receptive to a logical argument,” she said. “So, yes, to be honest, this is a conscious strategy because there is no other way to show our love for the country.”

Another participant from the Jama Masjid rally, however, had a different take. Noma Faruqi, an Ambedkar University student, said Muslims had been singing the national anthem since much before the Modi government came to power.

“The Jama Masjid protest was not led by any political body. It was organised by students of the walled city and led by its women,” she added. “So, singing of the national anthem was a conscious choice and not an imposition or an obligation.”

Writer and activist Farah Naqvi said it would be inaccurate to see Muslims holding the national flag in isolation, adding that all anti-CAA protesters were doing so.

“Every single protest I have been to since the CAA was passed has used the tiranga. This is not a particular Muslim response, this is a truly secular national response,” she added. “Everybody is reclaiming the national symbols, not just Muslims.”

Ahmed also rejected the suggestion that Muslims were employing national symbols as a reaction to the Hindutva provocations.

“We must remember that these women and young students are the product of the republic, and national anthem and national flag are intrinsically linked to them,” she said. “This is, therefore, not entirely a reaction to Hindutva allegations.”


Also Read: ‘For how long will you test a Muslim’s patience’ — academics say CAA protests to intensify



ThePrint is now on Telegram. For the best reports & opinion on politics, governance and more, subscribe to ThePrint on Telegram.


why don't you go to indian defence forum?
 
Looks like they’re kissing both the feet of their executioner and his dagger which is slitting their throats!!!! What a pathetic situation!!
Correct analysis. The last cynical desperate attempts by a condemned people to seek clemency for their crime of mere existence.

Of course Hindus in a Hindutva state will laugh at them.

Ultimately, jai Hind, the national anthem, flag waving and all this baloney won't spare them their fate, nor will it stop some determined RSS types from lynching them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...ith-tricolour-found-dead-in-bihar/cid/1732433

Only a chant of "jayshreeram" will save Indian Muslims from lynchings, beating or unjust denial of basic rights.

Why the distinction? Hindutva doesn't believe such a thing exists as an Indian Muslim - this oxymoronic term is slowly being erased. Any Indian Muslim is simply an invader to be dealt with.

what Jinnah said

"Indian Muslims who refused the idea of Pakistan, will spend the rest of their lives trying to prove loyalty to India"

Indian Muslims' last throw of the dice. After this, it's 3 choices: submit, die fighting or leave.
 
they are simply doing tht because ummah is long dead so understand their plight/positions. The current OIC itself is a mini arab league, for all muslim countries ethnic nationalism comes first and religion later.

how many muslim countries have taken to streets to highlight indian muslim plight, simply none, the rohingya issue and the uygher issue is also not highlighted due to vested interests.

regards
 
The Indian anthem is so damn awful anyway as an actual melody. No offence, just an honest opinion.

The lyrics basically list some states and rivers (no mention that I can see of Kashmir or the Indus funnily enough - gangus welcome to correct me if I'm wrong).

And what's with the psy-ops title? Thou art the ruler of the minds of all people???? Chillingly ironic.
 
The Indian anthem is so damn awful anyway as an actual melody. No offence, just an honest opinion.

The lyrics basically list some states and rivers (no mention that I can see of Kashmir or the Indus funnily enough - gangus welcome to correct me if I'm wrong).

And what's with the psy-ops title? Thou art the ruler of the minds of all people???? Chillingly ironic.
When did pakistan adopted it's national anthem ? year please !!!!
 
It's what Jinnah said

"Indian Muslims who refused the idea of Pakistan, will spend the rest of their lives trying to prove loyalty to India"

What choice do Indian Muslims have, the harder choice is uniting their 250 million Muslim population and demanding either equality and rights or azaadi
At the moment they hope the Indian state has not become corrupted and will protect them from the hindutva
While many may well have indeed rejected the idea of Pakistan and made a conscious decision to remain in their ancestral homeland, many others might simply not have had the means to make the journey to Pakistan. Others who may have had the means rightly chose to not undertake the perilous journey..

Anyway, there is nothing in the recent legislation here that will affect Indian muslims negatively, we're just weeding out the illegals (mostly bangladeshi muslims)

and it is not like muslim refugees from Pakistan (if any), BD and Afghanistan have been barred from gaining citizenship of India, just that they are not included in the list of folks who will benefit from the new simplified expedited process. They must continue to wait in line, just like anyone from Germany or Finland or Mexico or Japan or the USA etc must.. nothing has changed.

I suppose one could make a moral argument against excluding muslims from those 3 countries in the beneficiary list but one look at history will answer all your questions.

Goa, which was a Portuguese colony for 450 years, fast tracks citizenship for those born before 1961 as well as their progeny as long as they can prove some kind of ancestry (I'm unaware of all the details) .. these are overwhelmingly Christians and very few Muslims, but it is super tough for Hindus to get in the fast track program unless they're very well connected and well to do etc, they must stand in line and do it the proper old way.

This is no big deal what India has done, blown out of proportion, and people fell for it unfortunately. Crooked leftists and congress politicians, who are an increasingly irrelevant political force, saw an opportunity to gain relevance by riling up people but all they've ended up doing is strengthening the BJP base.

How would you feel about a bunch of Hindu and communist rioters burn your cities ?

How many "Hindu" universities do you have in Pakistan ?

After partition, the waqf boards took possession of the properties of the muslims who left India.

In Pakistan, the Muslims gobbled up all the Hindus left.

Uniform Civil Code is next. Where we will purge our constitution of ALL religious laws and clauses, Hindus, Muslims, Xtians.. everyone's religion and faith based garbage will be rendered null and void. One law for all citizens. Thereby ushering in an era of true secularism aka separation of "church" and state.

and then the Population Regulation Bill.. 2 kids per family. <- I have serious doubts about this one but will need to look at it in detail.

@jamahir what say ?
 
Vallahi Billahi I have failed to understand these Indian Muslims!!! Looks like they’re kissing both the feet of their executioner and his dagger which is slitting their throats!!!! What a pathetic situation!!! Don’t have they an iota of Yakin left in them?!?! Instead of engaging in these useless rituals they should train themselves in self defense!!! Ahh only if they could posses one millionth of the courage, boldness and audacity of the mafia boss Daud Ibrahim....



Bro, to make it worst, on other threads we have Pakistanis worshipping Pakistan-hating indian so called "Muslims" like zakir KUFFAR naik.
 
While many may well have indeed rejected the idea of Pakistan and made a conscious decision to remain in their ancestral homeland, many others might simply not have had the means to make the journey to Pakistan. Others who may have had the means rightly chose to not undertake the perilous journey..

Anyway, there is nothing in the recent legislation here that will affect Indian muslims negatively, we're just weeding out the illegals (mostly bangladeshi muslims)

and it is not like muslim refugees from Pakistan (if any), BD and Afghanistan have been barred from gaining citizenship of India, just that they are not included in the list of folks who will benefit from the new simplified expedited process. They must continue to wait in line, just like anyone from Germany or Finland or Mexico or Japan or the USA etc must.. nothing has changed.

I suppose one could make a moral argument against excluding muslims from those 3 countries in the beneficiary list but one look at history will answer all your questions.

Goa, which was a Portuguese colony for 450 years, fast tracks citizenship for those born before 1961 as well as their progeny as long as they can prove some kind of ancestry (I'm unaware of all the details) .. these are overwhelmingly Christians and very few Muslims, but it is super tough for Hindus to get in the fast track program unless they're very well connected and well to do etc, they must stand in line and do it the proper old way.

This is no big deal what India has done, blown out of proportion, and people fell for it unfortunately. Crooked leftists and congress politicians, who are an increasingly irrelevant political force, saw an opportunity to gain relevance by riling up people but all they've ended up doing is strengthening the BJP base.

How would you feel about a bunch of Hindu and communist rioters burn your cities ?

How many "Hindu" universities do you have in Pakistan ?

After partition, the waqf boards took possession of the properties of the muslims who left India.

In Pakistan, the Muslims gobbled up all the Hindus left.

Uniform Civil Code is next. Where we will purge our constitution of ALL religious laws and clauses, Hindus, Muslims, Xtians.. everyone's religion and faith based garbage will be rendered null and void. One law for all citizens. Thereby ushering in an era of true secularism aka separation of "church" and state.

and then the Population Regulation Bill.. 2 kids per family. <- I have serious doubts about this one but will need to look at it in detail.

@jamahir what say ?

Indian Muslims are outraged and protesting not simply because of CAA although it is the latest in a range of moves within India where the Indian Muslim community has been maligned, sidelined or outrightly attacked

It's the dawning realisation that Jinnah was right that has effected Indian Muslims so much
From Kashmir where a complete lockdown for half a year to try and suppress Kashmiri hatred of India to laws like CAA which will protect illegal Hindus from NRC whilst Muslims are targeted onto the near constant verbal and physical attacks from Hindutva



Indian Muslims are starting on the path, first to try and protect their rights in the hope that India hasn't gone through the looking glass or eventually to the battle for partition and azaadi
 
Back
Top Bottom