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Trench along Pak-Afghan border enrages Kabul
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The trench runs along part of the 2,640-kilometer Durand Line, named for British diplomat Mortimer Durand, who drew the now internationally recognised border in an agreement with Afghan ruler Abdur Raham Khan in 1893.

But the modern Afghan government has never accepted the border, and neither have the mainly tribal communities that straddle it.

They are accustomed to moving back and forth freely and in some cases own land on both sides.

The trench is being built in Pakistan's Balochistan province, where Baloch rebels have been battling Islamabad demanding greater autonomy and a larger share of the region's oil, gas, copper and gold.

It's an eye-sore of construction, a massive furrow 10 feet wide and 8 feet deep that already snakes 180 kilometers across the desert landscape.

Pakistan's Frontier Corps said in a recent statement that the trench would “not only help in effectively controlling the movement of drug and arms and ammunition smugglers, but also will help in stopping the intrusion of terrorists and illegal immigrants.”

Pakistan fears that arms could make their way to any number of insurgent groups, including the Taliban.

But Kabul sees the trench as the latest move in a new incarnation of the colonial-era Great Game, in which Pakistan hopes to destabilise its neighbor to extend its regional influence.

It already considers Pakistan as the source of the Taliban insurgency it has been battling with US and Nato support for the past 13 years.

“The people here have never accepted the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in the first place,” said Gen Abdul Raziq, the police chief of Afghanistan's Kandahar province, which borders Balochistan.

“Pakistan is not doing anything to stop terrorism. If they want to stop it, they should stop producing it,” said Raziq, who has long had a reputation for ruthlessness in battling the Taliban. “This trench is simply to draw a border with Afghanistan and claim our land as their own,” he said.

Pakistan insists it is committed to fighting extremist groups and points to a massive offensive it launched in the tribal region of North Waziristan along the Afghan border over the summer.

Read: All-out military operation launched in North Waziristan

But analysts have long said Islamabad differentiates between the Pakistani Taliban, with which it is at war, and the Afghan Taliban, which it quietly tolerates and views as a means of preserving its influence in Kabul.

In that context, the trench is not seen by Afghans as a counterterrorism measure, but as an affront. “This can never be acceptable for the Afghans,” said former Afghan Tribal and Border Affairs Minister Akram Akhbelwak, who was removed from his post this week while President Ashraf Ghani finalises his new Cabinet.

“The trench and the tribal border are completely illegal. Such actions on the border are creating problems among the tribes and will never be a solution to the problems between the two countries,” he said.

Afghanistan's Ghani signed security agreements with Washington and Nato immediately after taking office in September, permitting an enduring international military presence after the combat mission formally ends on Dec 31.

Also read: Afghanistan, US sign long-awaited security pact

The insurgents have meanwhile stepped up their war against his government with a series of high-profile attacks in Kabul.

Along the border, construction is proceeding, to the anger of local residents. “My land is my only asset from my forefathers, now some of it is on the other side and I'm powerless to do anything about it,” said tribal elder Muhammad Ghaffar, who like many people living along the trench took the freedom of movement across the Durand Line for granted.

Raziq said that when work began, some local people made their anger clear and there was some exchange of fire across the line. “But then we got orders from Kabul not to engage with Pakistani forces, so we backed off,” he said.

For polio worker Abdullah Jaanan, the implications of the barrier are potentially devastating, as Pakistan is experiencing a resurgence of the disease and his area of responsibility traverses the trench.

Jaanan said that eradication of the disease, which remains endemic only in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria, is taken seriously by Afghans.

“But how can I go and visit those homes on the other side of trench?” he said.

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Trench along Pak-Afghan border enrages Kabul
AP

The trench runs along part of the 2,640-kilometer Durand Line, named for British diplomat Mortimer Durand, who drew the now internationally recognised border in an agreement with Afghan ruler Abdur Raham Khan in 1893.

But the modern Afghan government has never accepted the border, and neither have the mainly tribal communities that straddle it.

They are accustomed to moving back and forth freely and in some cases own land on both sides.

The trench is being built in Pakistan's Balochistan province, where Baloch rebels have been battling Islamabad demanding greater autonomy and a larger share of the region's oil, gas, copper and gold.

It's an eye-sore of construction, a massive furrow 10 feet wide and 8 feet deep that already snakes 180 kilometers across the desert landscape.

Pakistan's Frontier Corps said in a recent statement that the trench would “not only help in effectively controlling the movement of drug and arms and ammunition smugglers, but also will help in stopping the intrusion of terrorists and illegal immigrants.”

Pakistan fears that arms could make their way to any number of insurgent groups, including the Taliban.

But Kabul sees the trench as the latest move in a new incarnation of the colonial-era Great Game, in which Pakistan hopes to destabilise its neighbor to extend its regional influence.

It already considers Pakistan as the source of the Taliban insurgency it has been battling with US and Nato support for the past 13 years.

“The people here have never accepted the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in the first place,” said Gen Abdul Raziq, the police chief of Afghanistan's Kandahar province, which borders Balochistan.

“Pakistan is not doing anything to stop terrorism. If they want to stop it, they should stop producing it,” said Raziq, who has long had a reputation for ruthlessness in battling the Taliban. “This trench is simply to draw a border with Afghanistan and claim our land as their own,” he said.

Pakistan insists it is committed to fighting extremist groups and points to a massive offensive it launched in the tribal region of North Waziristan along the Afghan border over the summer.

Read: All-out military operation launched in North Waziristan

But analysts have long said Islamabad differentiates between the Pakistani Taliban, with which it is at war, and the Afghan Taliban, which it quietly tolerates and views as a means of preserving its influence in Kabul.

In that context, the trench is not seen by Afghans as a counterterrorism measure, but as an affront. “This can never be acceptable for the Afghans,” said former Afghan Tribal and Border Affairs Minister Akram Akhbelwak, who was removed from his post this week while President Ashraf Ghani finalises his new Cabinet.

“The trench and the tribal border are completely illegal. Such actions on the border are creating problems among the tribes and will never be a solution to the problems between the two countries,” he said.

Afghanistan's Ghani signed security agreements with Washington and Nato immediately after taking office in September, permitting an enduring international military presence after the combat mission formally ends on Dec 31.

Also read: Afghanistan, US sign long-awaited security pact

The insurgents have meanwhile stepped up their war against his government with a series of high-profile attacks in Kabul.

Along the border, construction is proceeding, to the anger of local residents. “My land is my only asset from my forefathers, now some of it is on the other side and I'm powerless to do anything about it,” said tribal elder Muhammad Ghaffar, who like many people living along the trench took the freedom of movement across the Durand Line for granted.

Raziq said that when work began, some local people made their anger clear and there was some exchange of fire across the line. “But then we got orders from Kabul not to engage with Pakistani forces, so we backed off,” he said.

For polio worker Abdullah Jaanan, the implications of the barrier are potentially devastating, as Pakistan is experiencing a resurgence of the disease and his area of responsibility traverses the trench.

Jaanan said that eradication of the disease, which remains endemic only in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria, is taken seriously by Afghans.

“But how can I go and visit those homes on the other side of trench?” he said.

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I've hear people claim that pushtun and afghan are one but have they no shame claiming even balochistan?
 
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Pakistan has to do whatever it takes to ensure security and sanctity of borders along zero-line. The borders should be accepted and priorities need to be addressed, not non-issues.

The new Great Game does NOT entail "destabilize" Afghanistan......whoever suggests that is an absolute moron. We share a long border with this country, how does a destabilized Afghanistan suit us when we've suffered because of it since 2001

Where is Kabul?

follow the Humvees and bulletproof Land Cruisers with blacked out windows with drug lords sitting in back seat...

you'll be guided right to the green zone :laugh:
 
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Who's flags are fluttering on the wall? :blink: Is the wall part of the trench system? Looks like Afghani flags, not Pakistani that are atop it!

Secondly, how is a 10'x8' ft trench going to stop insurgents? It's a fair anti-tank ditch but it cannot stop insurgents from crossing. All they need is a ten foot ladder placed across it...and bingo!

Thirdly, an obstacle is useless unless it is covered effectively by fire and observation. Thus, are observation posts manned by the para military/army going to be established every 500m or so, all along the entire 180km length of the trench? That means more than 300 posts! Each post needs to have at least a section strength (10 troops) or more for it to be viable. That adds up to about 3000 troops plus or a full brigade strength!

Logistics and security along the supply lines would be a nightmare, considering that most places are not accessible by road.

Anyway, that ain't my problem!! :P :D
 
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Who's flags are fluttering on the wall? :blink: Is the wall part of the trench system? Looks like Afghani flags, not Pakistani that are atop it!

Secondly, how is a 10'x8' ft trench going to stop insurgents? It's a fair anti-tank ditch but it cannot stop insurgents from crossing. All they need is a ten foot ladder placed across it...and bingo!

Thirdly, an obstacle is useless unless it is covered effectively by fire and observation. Thus, are observation posts manned by the para military/army going to be established every 500m or so, all along the entire 180km length of the trench? That means more than 300 posts! Each post needs to have at least a section strength (10 troops) or more for it to be viable. That adds up to about 3000 troops plus or a full brigade strength!

Logistics and security along the supply lines would be a nightmare, considering that most places are not accessible by road.

Anyway, that ain't my problem!! :P :D

You have already answered your own questions. Not so difficult really.

After building the wall/fence, Pakistani security forces are bound to monitor the area for cross border movement. Don't be surprised when drones and boots on the ground roam the area. The fence/wall is a boundary mark that is going to assist the security forces on our side. The wall doesn't have to be big at all. It serves the purpose of making our intentions clear. Let the miscreants try placing a ladder and we'll see what happens. Don't you worry too much about manned posts/observation posts, logistics etc. They'll come in time. The Pakistani security forces have the means and the will to secure their land from militants and rogue foreigners crossing over. It's about time this measure was taken. Only those people are afraid of this wall that want to see the conflict widen. Obviously, the wall forms an obstacle. More such walls are needed all across the border region. Especially the volatile areas.
 
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This is first step built trench fence it after that mine them or built laser wall around it.
 
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This is a good move. We should be more assertive on the border line with Afghanistan. They cannot and should not be allowed to claim our territory. Abdur Rehman Khan himself gave up control of these regions just to protect Kandahar and Kabul. That chapter is over. There are more Pashtuns on the Pakistani side than on the Afghan side. There are 32 million plus here and 14 million on the Afghan side. The Afghans must live with that and accept that Pakistan has a greater share of the Durrani, Khilji, Suri and Lodhi empires than Afghanistan will ever have because we have a larger number of Pashtuns.

Lets not forget Afghanistan's attack on Bajaur in 1950's and also Najibullahs bombing campaigns in Pakistan. Afghanistan is a pain in the bum for Pakistan. It must be dealt with as such.
 
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no idea how trench gone help but still they needed to start some whr
even its mined people can use ladder to cross over this needs to be planned properly
1 thing it will at least show which area belong to pak nd which area is part of afg to afghn people
 
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But the modern Afghan government has never accepted the border, and neither have the mainly tribal communities that straddle it.

“The people here have never accepted the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in the first place,” said Gen Abdul Raziq, the police chief of Afghanistan's Kandahar province, which borders Balochistan.

“Pakistan is not doing anything to stop terrorism. If they want to stop it, they should stop producing it,” said Raziq, who has long had a reputation for ruthlessness in battling the Taliban. “This trench is simply to draw a border with Afghanistan and claim our land as their own,” he said.

Read this carefully. This is a problem and it always has been. Afghans do not recognise the border and bully the Pakistanis across the border with blackmail and racist insults.

The entire Afghan border area needs to be carpet bombed and showcased as a spectacle to anyone who does not agree with this border.

Pakistan has handled this area so badly and is now paying the price. Bomb them till they understand who decides where the border is.

How can you let a cockroach decide where you sleep at night? Its just pathetic. The whole world treats them like insects and bombs Afghanistan and Pakistan treats them like brothers and listens to them LOL. Treat them for what they are.
 
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