Towards an Asian century of prosperity - Xi Jinping

[Europa]

If Xi accepts 1, the regime will be over.
Without 1, 2 is impossible.

that is the point. xi jinping is now trapped because on one hand, india signed oil exploration with vietnam for south china sea and declared free navigation and on the other is taking back aksai chin and all these are happening right during xi jinping's india visit. but i think, chinese people will not bother if xi jinping accepts 3,500 km long indian because first they will not know immediately (chinese media will stay silent) and second even if they protest, xi jinping will use brute force to curb the protests. look, china also compromised a huge chunk of land to tajikistan not so long ago but chinese public didn't even know it. this is possible in dictatorial land because the govt is never answerable to the nation. did you see any chinese protesting when india signed oil exploration pact with vietnam in scs? figure out why.

 

[possumlot]

If Xi accepts 1, the regime will be over.
Without 1, 2 is impossible.

The border issue has been under discussion for decades. The only agreement between China and India is "No fire".
I don't think China really wants to solve that as long as there's no conflict. Those lands is only a symbol. However if the party steps back, they will lose the regime.

Without resolving the border issue it will be impossible to build on relationship between India and china. We can only try, but the disputes will never be far away and will always sour the discussions.

 

[andy_hujian]

that is the point. xi jinping is now trapped because on one hand, india signed oil exploration with vietnam for south china sea and declared free navigation and on the other is taking back aksai chin and all these are happening right during xi jinping's india visit. but i think, chinese people will not bother if xi jinping accepts 3,500 km long indian because first they will not know immediately (chinese media will stay silent) and second even if they protest, xi jinping will use brute force to curb the protests. look, china also compromised a huge chunk of land to tajikistan not so long ago but chinese public didn't even know it. this is possible in dictatorial land because the govt is never answerable to the nation. did you see any chinese protesting when india signed oil exploration pact with vietnam in scs? figure out why.

It can only happen if India give something back. Vietnam is smart to draw India in cause they want to see the confront between India and China. This will make China's 981 move back and Vietnam knows exactly why is that.

Without resolving the border issue it will be impossible to build on relationship between India and china. We can only try, but the disputes will never be far away and will always sour the discussions.

Agree. China's policy is clear. Get business done, everything else put away. That's the best route for now.
As for future? I don't even think the government knows cause no one wants to solve it.

 

[Europa]

It can only happen if India give something back. Vietnam is smart to draw India in cause they want to see the confront between India and China. This will make China's 981 move back and Vietnam knows exactly why is that.

india will not give you anything back, rather india will take aksai chin (part of india) back. and i repeat, your leader will agree with that but you will not be able to protest. there is a reason democratic countries are considered powerful because democratic govts are accountable and answerable to the nation while dictators are not. democracy is patriotism while dictatorship is all about personality cult worship.

 

[andy_hujian]

india will not give you anything back, rather india will take aksai chin (part of india) back. and i repeat, your leader will agree with that but you will not be able to protest. there is a reason democratic countries are considered powerful because democratic govts are accountable and answerable to the nation while dictators are not. democracy is patriotism while dictatorship is all about personality cult worship.

I have bookmarked your post. Wait for 50 years if PDF is still operating to see if your statement is right.

 

[Europa]

I have bookmarked your post. Wait for 50 years if PDF is still operating to see if your statement is right.

why do you need to wait for 50 long years? india will get aksai chin within months and the process has started. why do you think there is such unprecedented face off?

please read the posts of this thread

Assertive India behind frequent border stand-offs in Ladakh?

 

[StarCraft_ZT]

lol

 

[andy_hujian]

why do you need to wait for 50 long years? india will get aksai chin within months and the process has started. why do you think there is such unprecedented face off?

please read the posts of this thread

Assertive India behind frequent border stand-offs in Ladakh?

Tell me how many months China will return it and so I can put it in my calendar, fortune teller.

 

[possumlot]

It can only happen if India give something back. Vietnam is smart to draw India in cause they want to see the confront between India and China. This will make China's 981 move back and Vietnam knows exactly why is that.

Agree. China's policy is clear. Get business done, everything else put away. That's the best route for now.
As for future? I don't even think the government knows cause no one wants to solve it.

India has given something back to china in the form of Tibet. I agree India did a poor job of negotiating that, but that debt still remains. (don't link it to sikkim)

India's policy is also to focus on business, only the geo political games that is played around china will make doing business that much more complex and unpredictable and hence more riskier.

Vietnam is smart to draw India in and India is smart to engage with Vietnam. Only India would not have done that if the border dispute was settled.

If the border dispute is not settled then India will start getting more and more engaged with Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines etc. and that will not be good for china. That is the inevitable conclusion.

The smarter thing to do is to settle border with China so that India has no interest in joining a anti-china alliance.

 

[terranMarine]

I have bookmarked your post. Wait for 50 years if PDF is still operating to see if your statement is right.

Do a screen capture and post it on multiple image hosting providers, you never know one day PDF cease to exist

 

[bolo]

why do you need to wait for 50 long years? india will get aksai chin within months and the process has started. why do you think there is such unprecedented face off?

please read the posts of this thread

Assertive India behind frequent border stand-offs in Ladakh?

Indian wet dream. We are stronger than you

why do you need to wait for 50 long years? india will get aksai chin within months and the process has started. why do you think there is such unprecedented face off?

please read the posts of this thread

Assertive India behind frequent border stand-offs in Ladakh?

wake up from your wet dream

 

[SamantK]

This time around Chinese have to take into account a more aggressive Japan and the forthcoming visit of Modi to US.

China tried to lure India with $100 billion but India will not accept it if it means China keeps it expansionists attitude.

 

[Beidou2020]

China will not accept any solution to the border as the power is dramatically shifting to China. India has absolutely nothing to counter China with. China is actively building the string of pearls in Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Myanmar which will eventually hold Chinese naval bases if India goes rogue.

China can fund the many separatist groups inside India to cause chaos inside India.

Now that Russia is sanctioned by the West, they need China more than ever.

China and Russia run the BRICS, SCO. If India allies with the West to hurt China then it will hurt BRICS and SCO interests, India will be kicked out.

That means India is completely isolated and has no counter to the West which means the West knows it has India under its thumb. India becomes another Japan, which has no independent foreign policy and has to kowtow to the West in everything.

India is best served making friends with its superior partner China.

 

[possumlot]

 

[possumlot]