Top 10 Armed Forces in the World

[Kesang]

How many active infantry Germany have? Not even 150 thousand and thinking that they are ahead of us who possessed more than 1 million infantry.

Not even single a destroyer( forget about ACC). We have 8 destroyers.

 

[Wickerman]

China - while it could literally wipe its *** with India in a war could do jack **** in a conflict against Australia.

They'll ram their dragon up Australia's you know where, and convert the rest of Australia into a deserted parking lot. Get real.

Chinese military power manifests itself purely as a land based military force thanks to its overwhelming size, sheer firepower, a moderate technological level and adequate military competency. However in terms of its Air and Naval capabilities (especially its naval capabilities) China is seriously lacking and has next to 0 power projection capabilities. Thus China remains only a regional land based military power pretty much capable of decimating any Southeast Asian nation. However, another factor to consider with China is its asymmetric warfare capabilities which make it highly improbable that any western military (even the United States) could successfully operate in the lateral zones or skies around China - as for successfully invading China in a D-Day style invasion, forget about it. To sum it up, China is not a global military power, but a regional power. It cannot project any meaningful military power outside of Southeast Asia but is very capable thanks to its asymmetric capabilities to repel any attack from any western armed force.

China has indigenous capability. They can build planes on their own even after losing them in war. What does Australia have? Thats right, F18s and the likes bought from the US. And zero power projection capabilities? After the US and Russia its China that projects power in the world. Get with the times.

Israel - seriously? Israel has no military capabilities whatsoever that would enable it to project power into Europe and defeat any European power. Israel at best can project air power over the middle east and gain air supremacy with relative ease... but that is the limit to Israeli military power. Europe on the other hand houses two global military powers, Britain and France both of which have truly wide ranging military capabilities and a technological superiority over Israel. Britain who is in possession of Trafalgar and Astute class nuclear submarines armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles could target and engage Israeli air bases at will - rendering a large portion of the Israeli Air Force ground or destroyed.

Yes Israel cant project as much power as Britain and France can. But Israel can also launch Jericho missiles right into Britain and France. Technologically they are just as good as Europe and the US. But yes, their capabilities might be limited because of their smaller size.

And exactly why does India deserve to be above those nations you mentioned? Especially Britain and France. India is a toothless tiger, looks good on paper, nothing more.

Because India is the 4th largest power thats why.

India has pretty good tech, although below China. Maybe in some respects tech wise probably better, but no one knows. And Germany before India? In lala land, yes. Germany has zero power projection capabilities, not does it try to. You guys let the Americans sit on your land with their fighter jets, enough said. You might wanna go through all the threads on this forum, about capabilities etc and then decide. Germany is at best equal to Pakistan. But even there, I'd give Pakistan the edge, as they are a battle trained force. And a nuclear state. They have fought more than 4 wars in the last 60 years. And they have been in war continuously in the toughest of terrains you can imagine all over the region. Although it was against us 4 times. But still.

Deluded Europeans

 

[Ceonwulf]

Syama Ayas and Tridibans,

No strategic depth?! Since when has been spamming 1,000s of little brown people in green uniforms equated strategic depth? The difference between the USSR and India is the USSR was an industrial superpower and mobilized over 20 million men during WW2. Its also worth mentioning that our 4 million Germans on the eastern front caused approx 9 million Russian military deaths from 1941 to 1945!

You both fail to understand India is nothing more than a static regional power that relies heavily on yesterdays technology imported from Israel, Russia, France etc living in the shadows of China.

A few question - how would India prevent Britain or France from unloading their stockpiles of cruise missiles at ranges far outside of India's military reach? What would stop a true global military power like Britain or France from targeting the foundations of your defence infrastructure with those weapons? Heheh India would be powerless to stop such an attack. And who says Britain or France HAVE to engage Indian land forces? Their technological superiority at sea and in the air with the use of standoff weapons give either Britain or France complete control of how such a conflict would playout. Now thats what I call strategic depth!

Another factor is economics, both Britain and France have a far larger economy than India, and both their respective military industries are among the largest in the world and capable of producing technologically world beating weapons. Britain during WW2 was able to equip and mobilize nearly 4,000,000 men in the British Army - what would stop them doing so today if they needed? Manpower is the cheapest military resource available. 1 million little brown people just isn't enough.

The reason I place Germany and South Korea above India too is because of their technological superiority and the fact that our enemies are incapable of successfully invading us... India on the other hand isn't capable of defending against China or Pakistan.

 

[Ceonwulf]

They'll ram their dragon up Australia's you know where, and convert the rest of Australia into a deserted parking lot. Get real.

Yeah because China is really capable of deploying a full sized and fully equipped combined arms task force over 1,500 miles away and beat a technologically superior enemy. ffsake unless China has discovered the ability to teleport it armed forces around the world China has no power projection capabilities? Are Asians really this retarded?

 

[Ceonwulf]

Israel can also launch Jericho missiles right into Britain and France.

Its doubtful Israel would take a conflict nuclear by launching a nuclear strike on Britain or France... Jews are not as retarded and as small minded as little brown Asians.

 

[Edevelop]

My Top 15:
1. USA
2. Russia
3. China
4. India
5. G.B
6. France
7. Israel
8. Pakistan
9. Turkey
10. Saudi Arabia
11. South Korea
12. Japan
13. Egypt
14. Iran
15. North Korea

 

[lightoftruth]

Its doubtful Israel would take a conflict nuclear by launching a nuclear strike on Britain or France... Jews are not as retarded and as small minded as little brown Asians.

we r gono see a pink german here anyway.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

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We are one of the premier air powers in the world today. Top 3 and neck and neck with Russia. In size alone we are top 3, in terms of total aircraft, combat aircraft and 4th gen planes. We have multiple 5th generation aircraft in the air, turbojets with a higher thrust-weight ratio than many European turbofans and current developing competitive turbofans, one of the furthest detection radius AWAC with AESA radar (instead of mechanically scanned Doppler-pulse radars that most other countries use) and a large territory to work from.

Power projection is affected by our lack of tankers. However, within a 2000 km radius of our borders, it is easy to project air power since its within the range of our airbases.

Also, about Britain and France, I am not seeing how their power projection capabilities are above ours. The Liaoning (65,000 tons) has a displacement more than the Invincible (22,000 tons) and Charles de Gaulle (37,000 tons) put together. The Invincible cannot carry a full air superiority wing but is limited to helicopters and light aircraft. In terms of submarines, destroyers, maritime air wing, etc. I'm just not seeing how they have more. If you talk about combat record then its because there's simply more countries near Britain and France. The only reason I can have is not in terms of equipment, but in terms of diplomacy.

Without help from others providing refueling capabilities, the RAF and French Air Force is essentially limited to Western Europe and North Africa, a block of land much smaller than Southeast Asia.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

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Sure. That is well within the combat radius of our destroyer, submarine, combat, bomber and AWAC aircraft + refueling capabilities + missiles. With domestic AESA radars ( KJ-2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) on our heavy AWACs and air defense destroyers, 2000-4000 km land attack cruise missiles ( CJ-10 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia DH-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) Australia is just another Southeast Asian country, located geographically in Southeast Asia, with all the capabilities thereof.

Indeed it is questionable if Australia could even defeat Singapore. Australia has 90 F-18s as their air to air power. Singapore has 24 F-15s and 74 F-16s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Air_Force#Aircraft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Air_Force

Whats funny is that you laugh at the Indian Navy's power projection yet the Indian Navy has a naval air arm far larger than Britain and a better geographic position to work from.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

India is a toothless tiger, looks good on paper, nothing more.

Says a german??...How many wars have you fought in the last 50 years?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Germany and Japan dont deserve to be on the list itself!

Who is gonna give them permission for starting the war btw?..Uncle Sam??

 

[Wickerman]

Its doubtful Israel would take a conflict nuclear by launching a nuclear strike on Britain or France... Jews are not as retarded and as small minded as little brown Asians.

Looks like this guy cant read right.

Where have I even talked about a nuclear strike from Israel genius? Good god, your history with the Jews sure screwed you up!

Yeah because China is really capable of deploying a full sized and fully equipped combined arms task force over 1,500 miles away and beat a technologically superior enemy. ffsake unless China has discovered the ability to teleport it armed forces around the world China has no power projection capabilities? Are Asians really this retarded?

Yeah they have missiles that can reach any part of the world, right from their shores. You might wanna read up and educate yourself before spouting some garbage. Australia stronger than China? One of the most retarded things I have heard in a while. Continue. Its entertaining watching you make a fool of yourself. You come here all gung ho to spout some crap talk about how Germany and the rest of Europe is so powerful. While the whole of Europe is America's sidekick.

 

[jatt+gutts]

Syama Ayas and Tridibans,

No strategic depth?! Since when has been spamming 1,000s of little brown people in green uniforms equated strategic depth? The difference between the USSR and India is the USSR was an industrial superpower and mobilized over 20 million men during WW2. Its also worth mentioning that our 4 million Germans on the eastern front caused approx 9 million Russian military deaths from 1941 to 1945!
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last time brown indians met orange germans this happened..

indian soldiers attacking german trenches.. world war 2

captured german soldiers marching behind indian soldier

captured german flag and arms.

 

[Wickerman]

last time brown indians met orange germans this happened..

That should send out the message!! HE is just another dude, who must have been searching for 10 top armed forces and must have been appalled that European supremacy is no more and a myth

BTW we shouldnt forget that those forces are both Indian and Pakistani.

 

[Ceonwulf]

FairAndUnbiased,

Australia is located in Oceania, not Southeast Asia and is well out of Chinas military reach. Lets look at this simply, China v Australia. Australia has a sizable modern fleet of ~14 destroyers and frigates, ~80 - 90 operational fighter aircraft and 30,000 highly trained soldiers. In an emergency after mobilizing reserves Australia could have a anywhere between 50 - 60,000 soldiers armed and ready with the vast majority of its air and naval equipment operational and on high alert. China is simply not capable of defeating such a force so far from home. Why? Because China doesn't have the ability to deploy its armed forces overseas far from home for sustained periods of time.

"Without help from others providing refueling capabilities, the RAF and French Air Force is essentially limited to Western Europe and North Africa, a block of land much smaller than Southeast Asia."

The RAF and French Air Force both operate their own independent fleets of aerial refueling tankers, strategic transports, AEW&C aircraft and battlefield surveillance aircraft... the RAF for example has deployed as far as the Falklands Islands utilizing their own refueling tankers... thats 8,000 miles away from the UK. Most certainly not limited to Western Europe and North Africa. The RAF also have several air bases in the South Atlantic (Ascension Island, Falkland Islands etc), Air bases in Gibraltar and Cyprus, Air bases in the Indian Ocean, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. Essentially the RAF thanks to a global network of RAF bases and the RAFs own fleet of aerial refueling tankers has the ability to operate anywhere from India to the middle east to eastern and western europe, north africa, central east and west africa, south africa and north and south america.

Power projection is not just dependent of aircraft carriers. Its about deploying land, air and sea power anywhere in the world and sustaining those forces for an extended period of time. How do you think the Americans are able to keep 100,000 soldiers in Afghanistan? They have a long and extensive supply chain in place supporting those soldiers.... comprising auxiliary vessels, tactical and strategic transport aircraft, aerial refueling aircraft, cargo aircraft etc China as it stands does not have such a network in place, nor does it have the experience, knowledge or equipment to do so.