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I dont think South Indian hate Bengalis.South indians especially tamils hate north indians to the hilt.It is basically because of their arrogance,even though this is just a general thing.
Bengalis and other East indians are there in abundance in Madras and it is quite chilled out fro them.
South Indians including Tamils don't hate North Indians. I am North Indian and have lived in south for 3yrs and have numerous South Indian friends. Some North Indians do have haughty nature and say some inappropriate things which sets off people from South.
In general South Indians are very down to earth people and me and many of my friends enjoyed living in Bangalore/Mysore. Chennai weather is harsh and Tamils are quite sensitive about their language and culture but I would not call them arrogant. Extend your hand and you will see there is no problem in North-South divide.
I dont think South Indian hate Bengalis.South indians especially tamils hate north indians to the hilt.It is basically because of their arrogance,even though this is just a general thing.
Bengalis and other East indians are there in abundance in Madras and it is quite chilled out fro them.
The tamils are like bengalis,linguistically chauvinistic people.They pursue education,arts,culture,music,sports just like any other bunch of people.
The problem came because of DMK and the movement which had the backing of probably 5-6% of Tamils. DMK is full of pussies and they never had the balls to seriously back any claim of theirs, linguistic chauvinism was tapped and used for electoral results.
Basically,it was movement of the OBCs against the brahmins and whatever the brahmins did and stood for became taboo.
Brahmins learnt sanskrit,sanskrit is bad.
Brahmins are vegetarian,vegetarianism is bad.
Brahmins hold government jobs,take it away from them.
Brahmins have land,take it away from them.
Basically the OBCs ousted from the brahmins politically successfully.
Having said that the Tamil Brahmins(us) are also to blame as they kinda behaved like jews.Most of them came down from the north escaping the raids of Malik Kafur,Alauddin Khilji's lieutenant where you have to convert or die.The brahmins just moved south,where they were protected by the vijayanagar empire.
They are tight knit community and dont marry mix outside(Trust me,it is a big deal even if i want to marry a brahmin from outside TN).Therefore it definitely alienates them from the society.
Even though lot of Tam-Brams have contributed in various fields,they r still a big stigma in TN.
Skin color doesn't change $hit. An invader is an invader. And you probably knew that already but couldnt resist bringing in the Kashmir angle.
Please don't convert this thread into another Indo-Pak fight over Kashmir.
Google eh? Hmm lots of results...Ahh I can see where you're coming from. Ashamed to quote the source ? I'll do it for you
Please read up on the people responsible for raiding/pillaging/buring of the Buddhist Universities of Nalanda and Taxila, and there you have your answer
I think you missed my point..........the indian member bought the issue of colour which i was giving a reply that theres plenty of people in indian-pakistan with white skins so the issue of colour is of no relevance.
The only thing about kashmir i have bought up is that they are white just like pathaans thus answering your indian friends point how we like being taken over by white people.
Next time at least take the time to answer in context and not go on a tangent.
That wasn't a serious remark I reckon.
South Indians in general treat everyone above Karnataka and Andhra as northies! Doesn't matter if you're from North-East or North-West!
Couple of things:
Kartic Sri and I had a serious disagreement about this some months ago. You might like to take a look. He more or less (I suppose he too is an Iyer) took the line you are taking now. But take a look anyway.
The SI vs. NI thing is active; people have mentioned Tamizh unwillingness to speak in Hindi if spoken to in Hindi. I saw this first hand in 81; it has diminished but not vanished. A rickshaw-driver will stumble along in a few words of broken English rather than speak Hindi, but try mumbling a little butler-Tamizh to him and he'll break his neck to be helpful.
Actually I was given a rest that day before I could reply you on the content of Anna's speech in the Parliament.(if that is what you are implying). I dont disagree that we are a bit sensitive towards our language, But the love for our country is even greater. I still have that and maybe I can share it with you if you are still interested.
p.s.:I am not an Iyer --- rather a Kongu Vellala Gounder. Maybe an unusual name among my caste is causing this mischief right from my LKG
Two reasons for that :
Since the pre-dominant majority dont know Hindi they are not sure whether the Hindi Speaking person is abusing him or praising him. Since I know rudimentary Hindi, I have seen may Northies maintaining a smiling face but saying the worst of words to unsuspecting auto-drivers,bus-conductors etc.
Second is that it is a prevalent 'regional' thing , Get on a bus in Pune and ask something in Hindi, you wont get an answer until you speak with rudimentary Marathi or the answer comes phat in Marathi. More like 'this is our home pitch' thinking.
Regarding Kartic being an unusual name for your caste: I was a bit surprised at your response; but there's no real reason why pappaans should hog all the good names.
Much more regional pride than suspicion and uncertainty, from what i could make out. But there's room for both types of response to co-exist.
However, I am disappointed that my basic point was not answered by the original poster.
I don't agree with your suggestion that Brahmins came down south after the attacks of Malik Kafur, and took shelter in the Vijaynagar Empire. Or rather, for me to agree would need more facts.
Actually the problem creator is not Karthic,which is a fairly common first name cutting across caste lines in TN. Rather it is the 'second name' that causes the mis-conception as it is almost a trademark name of Iyers.