tipu sultan ancestors were pakistani

[Hamza913]

Nor an origin?

Not with a language like Urdu, whose script is Perso-Arabic, grammar is based on Prakits, name is based on Turkic, and vocabulary is a mix of multiple languages.

They do.

No, you don't. Most of you cannot understand pure Urdu.

 

[El Sidd]

Since you know little or nothing about democracy, you are to be pitied for making fatuous remarks; the recent thumping defeat of the right-wing idiots should have spoken to those who have a clue about democracy. To the rest of you, it is a wall of noise.

So everyone in Pakistan who does not share your secular Vision has No clue about democracy? Interesting opinion

Unfortunately I have to deal with the most excruciatingly inept analyses possible. Please do not use the self-contradictory phrase 'democratic fascism'; it vies for space in the largely uninhabited minds of the sorts that we encounter with 'wet fire' and 'dry water'.

Self praise wont get you farther than this i believe

Incidentally, nobody accuses him of massacring a minority.

This is a blatant lie

 

[Hamza913]

Secondly, you fight for freedom against ahem - the colonizers.

We fought against both you and the British, primarily the former. If that makes you cry, tough, but that doesn't mean we didn't work to get Pakistan.

Lol, my heroes spent time in jail. They were hanged.

A few things:

1. Irrelevant, just because a lot of mine were smart enough to avoid such things doesn't mean they were any lesser. A living hero is better than a dead one, the latter can't do a thing when he dies.

2. For the gazillionth time, I already named you multiple people who died for our cause.

3. We view you as our enemy much more than the British, but Jinnah still spoke about making Pakistan free from the British (then again, I doubt you've ever listened to his speeches).

Anyway, the big difference between Pakistani activists and Unified Hind ones is that the former could speak English and dressed like true gentleman, whereas yours look like beggars, were racists, couldn't speak English, got most of themselves killed/jailed (what good is that to your cause), etc. And ultimately, mine succeeded but yours failed (British India will never be united again).

 

[Jackdaws]

We fought against both you and the British, primarily the former. If that makes you cry, tough, but that doesn't mean we didn't work to get Pakistan.



A few things:

1. Irrelevant, just because a lot of mine were smart enough to avoid such things doesn't mean they were any lesser. A living hero is better than a dead one, the latter can't do a thing when he dies.

2. For the gazillionth time, I already named you multiple people who died for our cause.

3. We view you as our enemy much more than the British, but Jinnah still spoke about making Pakistan free from the British (then again, I doubt you've ever listened to his speeches).

Anyway, the big difference between Pakistani activists and Unified Hind ones is that the former could speak English and dressed like true gentleman, whereas yours look like beggars, were racists, couldn't speak English, got most of themselves killed/jailed (what good is that to your cause), etc. And ultimately, mine succeeded but yours failed (British India will never be united again).

Lol.
But do you speak Brahui?

Freedom fighters fight colonizers. If you fought us, that's a civil war not a fight for freedom.

Nope, the fact that they were apologists for the British and licked their feet and boots showed they were a bunch of losers.

And again, giving you a crash course in history. Your opportunist and British boot licking heroes agreed to a United India under the Cabinet Mission Plan. It was the actual freedom fighters who rejected it. So your heroes' dream of Pakistan was apparently negotiable and saleable for the right price. But the price of a freedom and a democratic secular nation wasn't negotiable for our heroes.

 

[Hamza913]

Freedom fighters fight colonizers.

Freedom fighters fight for their freedom. Their enemies can be anyone who is viewed as the "other". You qualify.

they were a bunch of losers.

Keep crying, they won in the end.

And again, giving you a crash course in history.

Bharti trying to teach someone about history. Now I've heard it all.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not with a language like Urdu, whose script is Perso-Arabic, grammar is based on Prakits, name is based on Turkic, and vocabulary is a mix of multiple languages.

Ah, so now the truth, as it is according to the great logician @Taimur Khurram, emerges!

Urdu originated in the air. Or it originated in Persia and in Arabia, and it crashed into India full-fledged, clad in armour and riding a white horse, ready to fight the good fight.

There are four kinds of people:

• Those who are knowledgeable, and know that they are knowledgeable;
• Those who are knowledgeable, but do not know that they are knowledgeable;
• Those who are ignorant, but refuse to admit that they are ignorant;
• Those who are ignorant, and know that they are ignorant.

It is impossible to help one of these four, and you fit that very nicely.

No, you don't. Most of you cannot understand pure Urdu.

MOST of us don't have to, any more than you have to understand Dogri, or Maithil, or Bengali, or Malayalam. Those who do speak Urdu speak it better than you do. Don't go by the limited representation of Indians that you meet on PDF; not every community, every language is represented here. Only those with the strong nerves to go through the daily dose of drama, imperfect understanding, uncertain facts, disastrous logic and the constant strident tones of the less evolved specimens that we seek to deal with and to communicate with.

So everyone in Pakistan who does not share your secular Vision has No clue about democracy? Interesting opinion

It's as good a vision as any other. Certainly better than the uninformed meanderings of those who have never had an opportunity to practise it.

Self praise wont get you farther than this i believe

Look at the panel to the left, and we can take care of that sneer in an instant.

This is a blatant lie

Would you understand, with your totally uncertain grip on the tongue that you have chosen to use, what is the meaning of the word minority?

It is for your superficiality and your overwhelming and wholly unfounded impression of your superiority, with which you have impressed some kids, that you are one of the most pitiable of the members.

 

[Jackdaws]

Freedom fighters fight for their freedom. Their enemies can be anyone who is viewed as the "other". You qualify.



Keep crying, they won in the end.



Bharti trying to teach someone about history. Now I've heard it all.

Hahahhaha. No retort I see.

 

[El Sidd]

Would you understand, with your totally uncertain grip on the tongue that you have chosen to use, what is the meaning of the word minority?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captivity_of_Kodavas_at_Seringapatam

It's as good a vision as any other. Certainly better than the uninformed meanderings of those who have never had an opportunity to practise it.

How do you think it is a vision better than the other perceived visions you are so paranoid about.

 

[Joe Shearer]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captivity_of_Kodavas_at_Seringapatam

You don't get it, do you, genius? Until it is hammered into your head with a hammer and with nails? Hindus can't be a minority in India - the old one or the new.

How do you think it is a vision better than the other perceived visions you are so paranoid about.

As it happens, I am not paranoid about any vision whatsoever.

 

[El Sidd]

You don't get it, do you, genius? Until it is hammered into your head with a hammer and with nails? Hindus can't be a minority in India - the old one or the new.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captivity_of_Mangalorean_Catholics_at_Seringapatam

 

[Hamza913]

Hahahhaha. No retort I see.

You're not worthy of one, and it would go over your head just like everything else I say.

 

[Jackdaws]

You're not worthy of one, and it would go over your head just like everything else I say.

Lol. Sure. The grapes are sour.

 

[Hamza913]

Urdu originated in the air. Or it originated in Persia and in Arabia, and it crashed into India full-fledged, clad in armour and riding a white horse, ready to fight the good fight.

There are four kinds of people:

• Those who are knowledgeable, and know that they are knowledgeable;
• Those who are knowledgeable, but do not know that they are knowledgeable;
• Those who are ignorant, but refuse to admit that they are ignorant;
• Those who are ignorant, and know that they are ignorant.

It is impossible to help one of these four, and you fit that very nicely.

You can keep up your ad hominem attacks, but that won't change a thing. Urdu is not Indian. The language is a mix of many others.

MOST of us don't have to

If you want to call it Indian you do.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You can keep up your ad hominem attacks, but that won't change a thing. Urdu is not Indian. The language is a mix of many others.



If you want to call it Indian you do.

It's not ad hominem that is my characteristic. It is lack of accuracy and lack of knowledge.

Please do yourself a favour; go through my posts. If you can find an instance where I have NOT used logic and reason, and instead, without any of those, I have simply made a personal attack, point it out. This is a public forum; show me that example, in public, in front of everybody.

I can't stand vapouring endlessly without the fundamental knowledge to back it up. It is that failing that irritates me and brings out the demanding teacher who handed out A's, even an A-, only after very careful consideration and in a small, very small number of cases.

 

[Hamza913]

It's not ad hominem that is my characteristic.

Your characteristic is to just be rude. Plain and simple. After seeing you active on this forum for the past few years I've come to realise that.

You might be smart (at times), but you're still rude. You could say the same about me, but I'm willing to admit that.

If you can find an instance where I have NOT used logic and reason, and instead, without any of those, I have simply made a personal attack, point it out.

It's the fact that you use the two alongside each other and that your use of logic and reason is (in my opinion) sometimes rather flimsy.