I can't help but express my disappointment at your latest "
offering". I expect more rational insight from somebody that purports to represent an august body of intellects.
"By invading afghanistan and not taking the war seriously at the time of first attack..."
How "
seriously" should operational victory be? What would you have us do in late 2001 besides oust the prevailing taliban regime and scatter A.Q. to the four winds?
THAT was achieved. What followed is where the real story lies. The reconstitution of the taliban leadership on your tribal lands permitted both temporary respite and long term sanctuary from which to wage war on the fledgling Afghan gov't and it's NATO/U.N sponsors whom then possessed the clear general support of mankind as expressed through the Bonn Accord.
You may make a case that our efforts to build governance within Afghanistan between early 2002-2006 were diffuse, incoherant, and haphazardly implemented through a variety of state/NGOs. If so, fair enough but, given the taliban precedent of governance, there was every reason to believe that some modicum of stability could be
initiated.
At least until all the chronic issues of Afghanistan-corruption, drugs, brigandry, warlordism, tribal/ethnic enmity, were exacerbated by an externally-directed and supplied insurgency.
That means Pakistan.
For all of Afghanistan's endemic problems there's no predicting where we might be in the absence of such. This insurgency has no traction without sanctuary within the Islamic Emirate of Waziristan.
It is what it is. Supposedly you're our ally but I can't help but wonder how this can be when a sovereign gov't surrenders vast tracts of it's (obstensibly) sacred lands to a foreign gov't to facilitate the making of war upon representatives of forty other nations much less the afghans whom they are attempting to assist to a life you could hardly promise under taliban rule.
"the american foreign policy is filled up with murderous blunders..."
Where? When? Not that we haven't committed "murderous blunders". OTOH, any nation has made a litany of regretable mistakes if sufficiently notable and bearing any length of history.
Nor is your government immune from such accusations. Of course, fully embracing murderous proxy warfare in pursuit of Pakistan's foreign policy objectives is hardly a "
blunder". Endorsing and sponsoring a murderous taliban regime in Afghanistan is clear example of such. A "blunder"?
That, my deep-thinking friend, is
murderous intent. I hope you note the salient difference.
"...a job that has always been left incomplete."
"
Always"?
Really? M.K., I encourage you to refrain from absolutes that are this dismissive. A modest review might suggest that the Marshall Plan to re-construct post-W.W.II Europe might have been born of thinking somewhat more enlightened than offered on Sunday morning at the 1st Baptist Church of God in Lynchburg, Tennessee.
Or South Korea and Japan. Taiwan? Israel? Our hand is ALL over those countries and their notable achievements. Those, alone, topically destroy your ill-considered assertion.
No. I'm rather satisfied that you didn't give that particular outburst much forethought. Too bad.
"The shame and embarrassment of leaving from another country as a big time failure is not going to go away..."
"Shame and embarrassment" aren't elements of rational primary considerations supporting foreign policy/nat'l security decision-making. Subordinate or peripheral? Perhaps. In the end, though, foreign policy should (and usually is) be driven by the continuous, on-going calculus of nat'l interests and the associated cost/benefit analyses.
"Shame and embarrassment" is associated with prestige. In my life I've experienced the full gamit of rises and dips of American prestige from our post W.W.II neo-colonialist anti-communist defender of freedom, defeated and dismissed post-Vietnam, exalted as a hyper-power following DESERT STORM and the Soviet Union's demise to where we are today.
Who cares? Time marches along and, hang around long enough, every dog has his day but I'd assert foreign policy objectives of any responsible nation-state are generally grounded on more enduring qualities than "
shame and embarassment" as a central feature.
"These wars that you see in iraq and afghanistan were manufactured in the bible belt churches of the united states"
Child-like.
"
---even the active u s army generals were talking about their greatness in chucrh sermons..."
Care to add up all the active army generals we've got running around? My point is that you've a very modest percentage of generals and this is hardly damning. Are you here to assert that you've no Pakistani army general that hasn't espoused his faith in Allah (PBUH)?
If so, what's so terribly wrong with that?
"It is about time to get out of afghanistan---let us spare some muslim lives."
Cut the sanctimonious religious B.S. The muslim taliban TARGET civilians. The taliban are responsible for the greatest percentage of Afghan civilians as attested by, separately, Human Rights Watch and the U.N. The taliban have been documented to use human shields and, certainly, you're aware of their propensity to attack little girls who'd very much like to attend school.
You should be aware of these simple and easily-obtained FACTS. Be clear, M.K. FACTS. Can you do better to remove the lame "crusader" pitch that seems to be coloring your "
insights", sir?
"...the maniacs in the u s will try to findother targets to kill more people under some other misunderstanding."
And there in the U.S. you live? Have you no simple dignity or are you so crass to chase the almighty dollar and derive all it offers while casting these self-righteous barbs at the hand that FEEDS your azz?
Were you but a man of conviction rather than one who's so disingenuous to bite the hand which feeds him. I'd call you an enemy of my nation for your views and ask you to leave America just as fast as your heinous perspective might take to gather itself and GO.
I'd be dead were I to reside in Pakistan and suggest the same. You might imagine something equally deserving were Americans as easily defiled.
Thanks.
