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It is long overdue. In addition to ending of arms embargo, Uncle Sam should provide some of military aid if they don´t want China to control the South China Sea.


Time to End Ban on Weapons Sales to Vietnam | The Diplomat

By Paul J. Leaf
September 18, 2014

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As the U.S. slashes its military budget and faces new and deepening crises across the world, it needs strong partners, particularly in Asia, where regular Chinese incursions threaten the status quo. The U.S. should thus end its ban on the sale of lethal weapons to Vietnam. Doing so will not only strengthen Vietnam and bring it further into the U.S. camp, but could also improve human rights there if the U.S. properly conditions the arms sales.

In 1984, the U.S. imposed an arms embargo against Vietnam because of its poor human rights record. In 2007, the Bush administration eased it, permitting the export of certain non-lethal defense items to Vietnam. Still, Hanoi’s continued human rights abuses have limited Washington’s willingness to draw closer to it. Among other things, Vietnam limits press, speech and religious freedoms, curtails ethnic minorities’ and workers’ rights, and lacks due process and an independent judiciary.

But a changed security environment requires the U.S. to reconsider its remaining arms ban against Vietnam. The U.S., which is reducing its military spending while being pulled into fresh and intensifying conflicts in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, needs strong partners to help it respond to China’s increasingly hostile rise.

China is a growing threat. Its military budget is the second largest in the world and almost surpasses those of the other twenty-four countries in East and South Asia combined. China has used these funds to field an impressive power-projecting arsenal and weapons meant to deny the U.S. access to its surrounding waters and airspace. Confident in its military strength and doubting U.S. resolve, Beijing has been aggressively advancing its claims over contested areas.

Consider its actions this year alone against Vietnam in the South China Sea, where those countries have rival stakes, more than half of world trade passes, and rich fishing grounds and potentially large gas and oil reserves lie. In January 2014, China began requiring foreign vessels to obtain approval to fish in the 90 percent of the 1.35-million-square-mile South China Sea that it claims.

From May through mid-July, China deployed a state-owned oil-exploring rig 80 miles inside Vietnam’s 200-mile exclusive economic zone recognized by international law. During that time, China buzzed and rammed Vietnamese vessels trying to intervene, plus it sank another. Last month, amidst U.S. and Filipino requests for all claimants to freeze provocations in the South China Sea, China announced plans to construct lighthouses on islands there to legitimize its purported legal rights to the islets over Vietnam’s. And last week, Vietnam accused China of harassing its fishing boats and beating Vietnamese fishermen near the disputed Paracel Islands.

Hanoi could be a strong balancing force against Beijing. Vietnam has the world’s 13th largest population (nearly 100 million people) and 11th largest active duty military force, plus it is estimated to become the world’s 17th largest economy by 2025. Indeed, its proximity to global supply chains and low-wage workforce make it an attractive manufacturing alternative to China. Vietnam’s military outlays climbed 130 percent from 2003 to 2012—making it Southeast Asia’s second biggest defense spender as a proportion of GDP—which Hanoi is using to modernize its naval and air forces. Its location is strategically valuable: Vietnam shares an almost 800-mile border with China and it abuts the South China Sea.

Finally, Vietnam is tough, having kept an outnumbered and outclassed group of vessels near China’s rig during their 75-day summer standoff.

But Chinese aggression does not guarantee that Washington and Hanoi will formally ally against Beijing. First, Vietnam has a strong, pro-China faction. Indeed, Vietnam’s defense minister called the countries’ rig standoff a small disagreement between “brothers.” Second, as Vietnam’s biggest trade partner and an expanding investment source, China has economic leverage over that country. Third, Vietnam, which has no defense treaty with the U.S., has witnessed Washington’s anemic responses to recent aggression across the world, including China snatching in 2012 contested territory from America’s ally the Philippines. Hanoi therefore questions whether Washington will back it against Beijing.

Unless Chinese hostility increases, Vietnam will likely seek a middle course between the U.S. and China to procure benefits from each.

Even so, by ending its ban on the sale of lethal weapons to Vietnam, the U.S. can more effectively counter Chinese assertiveness by strengthening Vietnam and drawing it closer to the U.S. and its partners. Vietnam will be better positioned to withstand Chinese incursions if the U.S. boosts its maritime law enforcement, surveillance and asymmetric naval capacities. The U.S. can more effectively modernize Vietnam’s military than Russia – Hanoi’s primary arms supplier – can because the U.S. has more advanced technology, can make greater price concessions, and is arguably less likely to cave to Chinese pressure to withhold potent weapons from Vietnam.

As Washington arms Hanoi, the countries’ military contacts will necessarily increase. For instance, the U.S. will have to train the Vietnamese to use the equipment and potentially build infrastructure in Vietnam to operationalize it. Moreover, Vietnam’s military will have greater interoperability with those of the U.S. and its regional allies. Building on these dynamics, Vietnam may eventually conduct joint combat exercises with the U.S. or its partners and grant the U.S. additional port visits (currently limited to one per year) and access to its military bases (talks began in at least 2012).

Critics will respond that the U.S. should not sell Vietnam lethal weapons because it abuses human rights. As a preliminary matter, strategic imperatives can force Washington to reluctantly maintain ties to unsavory governments. But here, the U.S. need not choose between its values and interests. Washington can structure its arms transactions with Hanoi to minimize their contribution to human rights abuses and to incentivize Vietnam to treat its citizens better.

First, the U.S. should sell Vietnam only weapons that will help it resist China rather than harm its citizens. That limitation should be easy to follow given that Vietnam and China are currently battling at sea.

Second, the U.S. should transfer military equipment to Vietnam only after it makes verifiable progress on human rights, such as releasing political prisoners or amending its laws. The U.S. can reinforce this dynamic by including in the Trans-Pacific Partnership – a draft free trade agreement including the U.S., Vietnam, Japan, Australia, and others – provisions requiring its members to pass human rights protections. (Concluding that deal will also enrich Vietnam, which will enable it to buy more arms, and reduce its economic dependence on China.)

U.S. officials from both parties, including Senator John McCain, who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, have recently signaled their interest in rescinding Washington’s remaining arms ban against Hanoi. With more Chinese confrontations looming as it orders additional oil-exploring rigs and coast guard vessels for use in the South China Sea, Vietnam’s defenses must be bolstered soon. And given that last month Vietnam imprisoned activists for allegedly obstructing traffic, the need for U.S. influence to advance that country’s human rights is clear.

Paul J. Leaf worked on defense issues for a think tank. He is a regular commentator on foreign policy and an attorney at an international law firm.
 
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It is long overdue. In addition to ending of arms embargo, Uncle Sam should provide some of military aid if they don´t want China to control the South China Sea.


Time to End Ban on Weapons Sales to Vietnam | The Diplomat

By Paul J. Leaf
September 18, 2014

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As the U.S. slashes its military budget and faces new and deepening crises across the world, it needs strong partners, particularly in Asia, where regular Chinese incursions threaten the status quo. The U.S. should thus end its ban on the sale of lethal weapons to Vietnam. Doing so will not only strengthen Vietnam and bring it further into the U.S. camp, but could also improve human rights there if the U.S. properly conditions the arms sales.

In 1984, the U.S. imposed an arms embargo against Vietnam because of its poor human rights record. In 2007, the Bush administration eased it, permitting the export of certain non-lethal defense items to Vietnam. Still, Hanoi’s continued human rights abuses have limited Washington’s willingness to draw closer to it. Among other things, Vietnam limits press, speech and religious freedoms, curtails ethnic minorities’ and workers’ rights, and lacks due process and an independent judiciary.

But a changed security environment requires the U.S. to reconsider its remaining arms ban against Vietnam. The U.S., which is reducing its military spending while being pulled into fresh and intensifying conflicts in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, needs strong partners to help it respond to China’s increasingly hostile rise.

China is a growing threat. Its military budget is the second largest in the world and almost surpasses those of the other twenty-four countries in East and South Asia combined. China has used these funds to field an impressive power-projecting arsenal and weapons meant to deny the U.S. access to its surrounding waters and airspace. Confident in its military strength and doubting U.S. resolve, Beijing has been aggressively advancing its claims over contested areas.

Consider its actions this year alone against Vietnam in the South China Sea, where those countries have rival stakes, more than half of world trade passes, and rich fishing grounds and potentially large gas and oil reserves lie. In January 2014, China began requiring foreign vessels to obtain approval to fish in the 90 percent of the 1.35-million-square-mile South China Sea that it claims.

From May through mid-July, China deployed a state-owned oil-exploring rig 80 miles inside Vietnam’s 200-mile exclusive economic zone recognized by international law. During that time, China buzzed and rammed Vietnamese vessels trying to intervene, plus it sank another. Last month, amidst U.S. and Filipino requests for all claimants to freeze provocations in the South China Sea, China announced plans to construct lighthouses on islands there to legitimize its purported legal rights to the islets over Vietnam’s. And last week, Vietnam accused China of harassing its fishing boats and beating Vietnamese fishermen near the disputed Paracel Islands.

Hanoi could be a strong balancing force against Beijing. Vietnam has the world’s 13th largest population (nearly 100 million people) and 11th largest active duty military force, plus it is estimated to become the world’s 17th largest economy by 2025. Indeed, its proximity to global supply chains and low-wage workforce make it an attractive manufacturing alternative to China. Vietnam’s military outlays climbed 130 percent from 2003 to 2012—making it Southeast Asia’s second biggest defense spender as a proportion of GDP—which Hanoi is using to modernize its naval and air forces. Its location is strategically valuable: Vietnam shares an almost 800-mile border with China and it abuts the South China Sea.

Finally, Vietnam is tough, having kept an outnumbered and outclassed group of vessels near China’s rig during their 75-day summer standoff.

But Chinese aggression does not guarantee that Washington and Hanoi will formally ally against Beijing. First, Vietnam has a strong, pro-China faction. Indeed, Vietnam’s defense minister called the countries’ rig standoff a small disagreement between “brothers.” Second, as Vietnam’s biggest trade partner and an expanding investment source, China has economic leverage over that country. Third, Vietnam, which has no defense treaty with the U.S., has witnessed Washington’s anemic responses to recent aggression across the world, including China snatching in 2012 contested territory from America’s ally the Philippines. Hanoi therefore questions whether Washington will back it against Beijing.

Unless Chinese hostility increases, Vietnam will likely seek a middle course between the U.S. and China to procure benefits from each.

Even so, by ending its ban on the sale of lethal weapons to Vietnam, the U.S. can more effectively counter Chinese assertiveness by strengthening Vietnam and drawing it closer to the U.S. and its partners. Vietnam will be better positioned to withstand Chinese incursions if the U.S. boosts its maritime law enforcement, surveillance and asymmetric naval capacities. The U.S. can more effectively modernize Vietnam’s military than Russia – Hanoi’s primary arms supplier – can because the U.S. has more advanced technology, can make greater price concessions, and is arguably less likely to cave to Chinese pressure to withhold potent weapons from Vietnam.

As Washington arms Hanoi, the countries’ military contacts will necessarily increase. For instance, the U.S. will have to train the Vietnamese to use the equipment and potentially build infrastructure in Vietnam to operationalize it. Moreover, Vietnam’s military will have greater interoperability with those of the U.S. and its regional allies. Building on these dynamics, Vietnam may eventually conduct joint combat exercises with the U.S. or its partners and grant the U.S. additional port visits (currently limited to one per year) and access to its military bases (talks began in at least 2012).

Critics will respond that the U.S. should not sell Vietnam lethal weapons because it abuses human rights. As a preliminary matter, strategic imperatives can force Washington to reluctantly maintain ties to unsavory governments. But here, the U.S. need not choose between its values and interests. Washington can structure its arms transactions with Hanoi to minimize their contribution to human rights abuses and to incentivize Vietnam to treat its citizens better.

First, the U.S. should sell Vietnam only weapons that will help it resist China rather than harm its citizens. That limitation should be easy to follow given that Vietnam and China are currently battling at sea.

Second, the U.S. should transfer military equipment to Vietnam only after it makes verifiable progress on human rights, such as releasing political prisoners or amending its laws. The U.S. can reinforce this dynamic by including in the Trans-Pacific Partnership – a draft free trade agreement including the U.S., Vietnam, Japan, Australia, and others – provisions requiring its members to pass human rights protections. (Concluding that deal will also enrich Vietnam, which will enable it to buy more arms, and reduce its economic dependence on China.)

U.S. officials from both parties, including Senator John McCain, who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, have recently signaled their interest in rescinding Washington’s remaining arms ban against Hanoi. With more Chinese confrontations looming as it orders additional oil-exploring rigs and coast guard vessels for use in the South China Sea, Vietnam’s defenses must be bolstered soon. And given that last month Vietnam imprisoned activists for allegedly obstructing traffic, the need for U.S. influence to advance that country’s human rights is clear.

Paul J. Leaf worked on defense issues for a think tank. He is a regular commentator on foreign policy and an attorney at an international law firm.



I wonder myself why the U.S still keeps military sanctions against Vietnam. :undecided: It should lift them ASAP. Communism s long death. :taz:By lifting the sanctions, the U.S will help pull Vietnam closer to it and isolate Russias military influence in the country even more.
 
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is it amusing? Xi Jinping makes state visit to India, while the PLA makes incursion visit.

Well that backfired against them.They are mistaken and dont expected such a quick reaction of 3 battalion.And retreated yesterday.
 
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Well that backfired against them.They are mistaken and dont expected such a quick reaction of 3 battalion.And retreated yesterday.

Well I knew the Indians were delusional, but I didn't know they were this delusional. First fabricate an "incursion", then come up a story of "quick reaction". What do you know? Boom, the Indians just scored another victory. Oh boy, if only real wars can be won that way by the mighty Indians... ;)
 
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Well I knew the Indians were delusional, but I didn't know they were this delusional. First fabricate an "incursion", then come up a story of "quick reaction". What do you know? Boom, the Indians just scored another victory. Oh boy, if only real wars can be won that way by the mighty Indians... ;)

Get a life troll.Do something to contribute this thread .Otherwise please STFU.No more off topic here.
 
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Well I knew the Indians were delusional, but I didn't know they were this delusional. First fabricate an "incursion", then come up a story of "quick reaction". What do you know? Boom, the Indians just scored another victory. Oh boy, if only real wars can be won that way by the mighty Indians... ;)

Where do you read your news ??..From your state controlled newpaper or Communist mouthpiece....At least in India, we have freedom of press so that they can run down their own Gov if there is slightest mistake regarding from Gov...
 
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Where do you read your news ??..From your state controlled newpaper or Communist mouthpiece....At least in India, we have freedom of press so that they can run down their own Gov if there is slightest mistake regarding from Gov...

How many times do I have to tell you Indians stop sh!tting on the concept of freedom? If your "free press" are they that good at running down any of your government's mistake how come your country is the filthiest, the most backward in the world?

I can access news everywhere. I read TOI (tabloid of India that is) too from time to time just to amuse myself. I have to give them credit though. This exclusive" story is not available anywhere else. Must have sold a few extra copies.
 
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How many times do I have to tell you Indians stop sh!tting on the concept of freedom? If your "free press" are they that good at running down any of your government's mistake how come your country is the filthiest, the most backward in the world?

I can access news everywhere. I read TOI (tabloid of India that is) too from time to time just to amuse myself. I have to give them credit though. This exclusive" story is not available anywhere else. Must have sold a few extra copies.

You know...I prefer to be in a shit rathen than an 3 star Jail...Now it depends what is individual choice...Of course i should not expect from your countrymen to lecture me what does freedom of everything means?...Again as i told..i love to be poor and shit rather than be told how many kids i have to born in my home.....

Again, Vietnam, Japan, India and other nations who really feel the threat from China should allign strategically to develop their economy share their expertise with each other to develop indigenous Military industry..
 
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Get a life troll.Do something to contribute this thread .Otherwise please STFU.No more off topic here.

Last I checked the topic was off tracked by your Vietnamese friend.

Anyway, here my "contribution" to this thread: Why do the Vietnamese need to buy any more weapons if the Indians can drive back Chinese incursions on the Internet?
 
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Well I knew the Indians were delusional, but I didn't know they were this delusional. First fabricate an "incursion", then come up a story of "quick reaction". What do you know? Boom, the Indians just scored another victory. Oh boy, if only real wars can be won that way by the mighty Indians... ;)
the hindoos will get another spanking.
 
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You know...I prefer to be in a shit rathen than an 3 star Jail...Now it depends what is individual choice...Of course i should not expect from your countrymen to lecture me what does freedom of everything means?...Again as i told..i love to be poor and shit rather than be told how many kids i have to born in my home.....

Again, Vietnam, Japan, India and other nations who really feel the threat from China should allign strategically to develop their economy share their expertise with each other to develop indigenous Military industry..

"I rather be poor than be rich under capitalism", sounds familiar? This is what the communists used to say. Check with your Vietcon pals, I bet they heard of that too. Funny to hear the same song from Indians, too funny :) What happened to you? Are you democrazy?

About your threat of ganging up on China, I must tell you be careful and pay attention. Every time any of your governments claimed sh!t like that we kicked their butt. Remember the Diaoyu Island patrol, oil rig and "incursion"? They all followed your stupid a$$ posturing. What did you do other than cry?
 
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is it amusing? Xi Jinping makes state visit to India, while the PLA makes incursion visit.
china is throwing around its weight,,,its quite natural.
this in turn will inspire neighbouring countries to form new alliances n build up military muscle,,,which also is natural.
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Last I checked the topic was off tracked by your Vietnamese friend.

Anyway, here my "contribution" to this thread: Why do the Vietnamese need to buy any more weapons if the Indians can drive back Chinese incursions on the Internet?

Our Viet friend ask one question and we replied for it .No more offtopic here.
 
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