Time has density

[*Awan*]

Among the Signs of the Last Day as disclosed by Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is that “time would move faster - so that a whole year would pass like a month, a month would pass like a week, a week like a day, a day like an hour, and an hour like the amount of time it takes to kindle a fire.”

Quran Chapter 21
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? 30
And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them, and We made therein [mountain] passes [as] roads that they might be guided. 31
Every soul will taste death. And We test you with evil and with good as trial; and to Us you will be returned. 35
Man was created of haste. I will show you My signs, so do not impatiently urge Me. 37
And they say, "When is this promise, if you should be truthful?" 38
But, [on the contrary], We have provided good things for these [disbelievers] and their fathers until life was prolonged for them. Then do they not see that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders? So it is they who will overcome? 44


so can we say that in the beginning size of earth was greater than its present size.with time it get small.can we apply following rule?
L = I * W
L = Angular momentum
I= moment of inertia
W = omega,angular frequency
as I is function of Radius.if we reduce R ,I get reduced.and in order to keep the angular momentum constant W will be increased.
Application is somersaults during clif diving.where he stretches his body before diving then contracts it in order to increase somersaults.


so my question is what science say regarding earth size,and is there any concept of density of time?and who would be right person to whom i ask this question?

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Yes in the Einsteinian model, time could dilate and contract. So 'density' as you say.

Regarding the size of the Earth, it might be expanding (or shrinking now, who knows), and that doesn't really concern current science.

And Nomi English translations will be only so much help if you're interested in actually understanding the Words. Somebody like you (ok, admittedly smarter!), in their worldview, did that translation.

 

[*Awan*]

Yes in the Einsteinian model, time could dilate and contract. So 'density' as you say.

well Einstein model is concerned with bodies that move with speed that approaches to the speed of light.yah there is concept of density of time but our current subject is completely different.

Regarding the size of the Earth, it might be expanding (or shrinking now, who knows), and that doesn't really concern current science.

who knows,may be in future it becomes their concern.don't you think NASA people can be helpful in this matter?

And Nomi English translations will be only so much help if you're interested in actually understanding the Words. Somebody like you (ok, admittedly smarter!), in their worldview, did that translation.

well Allah is the one who guide hearts towards his light.thats why i mention reference so that any body can cross check the translation from his source.

 

[Birbal]

I opened this thread cause I thought the media had caught on to some premature "discovery" that physicists had announced, similar to the FTL neutrinos...

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

^Me too. But it's nonetheless heartening that our friend here is thinking about big things.

 

[Sinnerman108]

But, [on the contrary], We have provided good things for these [disbelievers] and their fathers until life was prolonged for them. Then do they not see that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders? So it is they who will overcome?

Do you know how space time curve is dented and thus giving rise to gravity.
Look at this closely.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Size of earth is not changing in any noticeable way. Matter cannot be created or destroyed but it only change states and molecular composition

As far as end of world concern ,according to scientist it will occur because of heat death of universe when universe will reach to maximum entropy and you will not have enough heat to sustain the life.

 

[W.11]

Size of earth is not changing in any noticeable way. Matter cannot be created or destroyed but it only change states and molecular composition

As far as end of world concern ,according to scientist it will occur because of heat death of universe when universe will reach to maximum entropy and you will not have enough heat to sustain the life.

do you even know super nova??

 

[Lighting_Fighter]

Among the Signs of the Last Day as disclosed by Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is that “time would move faster - so that a whole year would pass like a month, a month would pass like a week, a week like a day, a day like an hour, and an hour like the amount of time it takes to kindle a fire.”

Quran Chapter 21
Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe? 30
And We placed within the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them, and We made therein [mountain] passes [as] roads that they might be guided. 31
Every soul will taste death. And We test you with evil and with good as trial; and to Us you will be returned. 35
Man was created of haste. I will show you My signs, so do not impatiently urge Me. 37
And they say, "When is this promise, if you should be truthful?" 38
But, [on the contrary], We have provided good things for these [disbelievers] and their fathers until life was prolonged for them. Then do they not see that We set upon the land, reducing it from its borders? So it is they who will overcome? 44


so can we say that in the beginning size of earth was greater than its present size.with time it get small.can we apply following rule?
L = I * W
L = Angular momentum
I= moment of inertia
W = omega,angular frequency
as I is function of Radius.if we reduce R ,I get reduced.and in order to keep the angular momentum constant W will be increased.
Application is somersaults during clif diving.where he stretches his body before diving then contracts it in order to increase somersaults.


so my question is what science say regarding earth size,and is there any concept of density of time?and who would be right person to whom i ask this question?

Guys I know what you mean. I had it or seen how fast the time runs. But you will see this, if you are pious islamicaly, you will have rahmah of allah on your time. You will see, from my personal experience that time is long minute, hour, day everything is long enough for you.

 

[sur]

Do you know how space time curve is dented and thus giving rise to gravity.
Look at this closely.

Can u explain this for non-technical persons??? I am interested to know this phenomenon but don't have basic knowledge in this area.

 

[iPhone]

Time is percieved and experienced differently when you are occupied and entertained as oppose to when you are idle. In the former you expereience time lapsing faster and in the later state, slower.

Past century mankind has given birth to a plathora of technology to keep itself occupied. As an experiment, islolate yourself from technology, go to an island without your gadgets for a week, and see how you experience time.

 

[Lighting_Fighter]

brother sur, your hadith below made me feel peace.

 

[Lighting_Fighter]

Time is percieved and experienced differently when you are occupied and entertained as oppose to when you are idle. In the former you expereience time lapsing faster and in the later state, slower.

Past century mankind has given birth to a plathora of technology to keep itself occupied. As an experiment, islolate yourself from technology, go to an island without your gadgets for a week, and see how you experience time.

Brother, I live in the same place and same condition. I've seen that there is more rahmah or I say lenthyness of time when I am pious. I am in the same occupation so nothing changed much but yes Islam changed for me.

 

[*Awan*]

I found one more thing,little bit off topic but still relevant because we are discussing radius of earth.

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 544)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "The first group of my Ummah to get into Paradise would be like a full moon in the night. Then those who would be next to them; they would be like the most significantly glittering stars in regard to brightness, then after them (others) in ranks. They would neither void excrement, nor pass water, nor suffer from catarrh, nor would they spit. And their combs would be made of gold, and the fuel of their braziers would be aloes and their sweat would be musk and their form would be the form of one single person according to the length of their father sixty cubits tall. This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Ibn Abi Shaiba with a slight variation of wording. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6796)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His own image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6809)"


Now
g = (GM)/R^2
g = gravitational acceleration
G = Gravitational constant
M = mass of earth
R = radius of earth

as we know that g effects the height of person.if we assume that long long time ago earth was much bigger than its present size,then this will reduce the value of g and that will effect the height of human beings and other creatures.
less g more height
more g less height

 

[*Awan*]

Can u explain this for non-technical persons??? I am interested to know this phenomenon but don't have basic knowledge in this area.

brother it is some thing like this.for example there are two brothers living on earth,a space ship came from some other galaxy and took one brother with them.their colony is near a black hole.
remember black hole is a body that has very very high density.let say may be a tea spoon material from black hole has more weight than the entire earth.it has very high value of g so high that even light can't escape from it.speed of light 3 * 10 ^5 km/sec
where as escape velocity of earth is just 11.2 km/sec.mean if we throw a ball with this velocity it will not return back and enter into outer space.
now let say after some time near black hole that particular person returns to earth.when he return he will see that his brother died long time ago and there is his let say 5th generation.
moral of the story near heavy bodies time and space curves.the more will be the density the more will be the curve.
and you can say that more will be the gravitational pull and time will be dense.