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Free advice , you are never going to invent anything, nor do you actually know anything about anything....best place for you is Indian left.

That "Inventor" part is a hoax to hide his own failure, there are chaps who just don't want to work, prefer to spend time in roadside tea shops or internet forums, carry on living on family income ("Get by" in his term), bluffing people around that he is doing further studies, giving exams for govt. jobs, trying hard to get a job, or something more fanciful like "Inventing" something....some years down the line they blame the govt. for their failure, and some more years down the line they end up doing some small jobs when family support is gone. I know this type very well, and I really don't care about what he does with his life...the only thing is that he is disrespecting others who don't "get by" like him, and calling names like slaves and coolies.

yes... every prophet, preacher, revolutionary and progressive activist in history had family and so escaped like you.

Mr. 8th prophet, why don't you answer my 2nd question in previous page?
You are one useless escapist who not only running away from work and responsibilities, but avoiding straight questions also.

let us say six months.

Six bloody months to create a website??? Stop fooling around.
 
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That "Inventor" part is a hoax to hide his own failure, there are chaps who just don't want to work, prefer to spend time in roadside tea shops or internet forums, carry on living on family income ("Get by" in his term), bluffing people around that he is doing further studies, giving exams for govt. jobs, trying hard to get a job, or something more fanciful like "Inventing" something....some years down the line they blame the govt. for their failure, and some more years down the line they end up doing some small jobs when family support is gone. I know this type very well, and I really don't care about what he does with his life...the only thing is that he is disrespecting others who don't "get by" like him, and calling names like slaves and coolies.

This guy has managed to annoy and irritate 99% of all Indians on this forum, even posters like milspec who is one of the sanest, most balanced person just lost his cool with him. Pakistanis laugh at him but tolerate him because he is anti-indian and fits their idea of a good indian muslim. What the dummy doesn't realize is how offensive using words like "coolie" are to honest people earning a living nor does he realize how very annoying it is when we hear that we are expected to underwrite his lazy lifestyle with our taxes all in the name of g0damn Libyan socialism! He has never done a single days honest work in his life -doesn't have a clue what Infosys or TCS actually do, but that does not prevent him from claiming they do nothing. Is he privy to what goes on in their boardrooms? He know nothing, ducks every question with non answers and sticks his nose into everything.
 
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i am sure drdo has enough funding.

go ask drdo where is its sooper dooper operating system which it had promised in 2010 ( Saraswat: DRDO working on India's own computer operating system - The Hindu ).

from 2012, ( Indian OS developed by DRDO likely to be ready in three years - timesofindia-economictimes )...


so where is it??

Mullah @jamahir ,

It may come as a surprise to you ,due to your lack of education, but writing a Operating system's code is such an easy job that even school boys do that for their class XII computer science project. One of my friend wrote an OS for his computer project and I designed a version of Brick breaker game for mine. The reason we are not famous is because neither his OS, nor my five level B&W brick breaker was better than one already available in market. In real world, you just need not design a product, but design it in such a way that it offer some advantage over what is already available in market, a lesson you would learn when your parent's money would run out. I am a mechanical engineering student and even I could design a OS in my lunch break for lulz, but only my parents and my dog tommy would buy that OS; similar to how only your parents and your cat would buy your clockless processor. How I know that? Well because being an Engineer I know that days of garage engineering got over half a century ago and if you by now have not managed to secure funding (in Hundred of millions of dollar at least) by now, you could never succeed in any measurable manner.

If you think that designing an OS is such a difficult job, then you should seek better company than your current vele friends on chaiwala's khoka, probably of people who have education. It is not designing of an OS that is difficult, but designing it in such a way that it could be better than Windows 10 is what is difficult.

And DRDO has not come out with an OS in public because its OS was meant for defence application. You know like one that would be used in military communications.
 
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the project is meant to be open-source... so no patent will be filed.

This is baloney.

You need to patent even open source software. Even if you do not intend to earn anything from it, you need to patent your inventions so that someone else could not.

Do you think that LINUX does not have a patent. It has you fool! Ever read terms and condition you have to agree to in any open source software? Just because it does not charge you money does not mean that it does not have a Patent.

But then, you need to follow procedures to apply for patent. Patents are granted by government allowing an inventor to maintain a monopoly on his invention for a limited time in exchange for clear and detailed disclosure of inventions . In order to be eligible for patent, an invention must be

1. Patentable (Laws of nature, Physical phenomenons, abstract ideas, plants grown from natural seed etc are not patentable);Invention has to be a product of Human inventiveness

2. Useful; Invention has certain identifiable benefits and is capable of being used.

3. New or Novel; If someone already has a patent for your invention, you cannot get a patent.

4. Enablement; specification of patent should contain a written description of the invention and manner and process of making and using it in full, clear, concise, and exact terms in order to enable any person skilled in the art to which it pertains to make and use the same and shall set forth the best mode contemplated by the inventor to carry out his invention.



As by your own admission, since you do not have anything to show for your clockless microprocessor ,Which anyone who even know basics of microprocessor manufacturing and design could tell, that does not exist (because microprocessors are collection of large number of nanometer long transistors and require perfect dustless environment for their manufacture and could not be done in a garage), you could not get a patent as your processor does not fullfills requirement no 2,3,&4 of patent law.

@waz @Irfan Baloch

i request mod review of members - @Rain Man , @MilSpec and @Skull and Bones - who indulged in six pages of personal attacks on me just because in the first page i wondered if the indian software/services industry deserves to be in the innovators list because it clearly has not innovated.

milspec particularly does not deserve to be think tank because he is anything but a thinking man.

you can see their utter hate of me these because i happen to be on the opposite political spectrum as them.

they are cowards who cannot ever work for the happiness and justice of others and hide behind different excuses, like @Rain Man uses "family responsibilities" as a constant theme to hide his cowardice and he was even insulting my initiative of trying to start a labor union once... no wonder these people hate islam and modern socialism.

i request action against these three members.

No one piled upon you because you criticized software industry. People piled upon you because you insulted hardworking people earning a honest wage, calling them names, while you yourself are a useless person living on his parent's wealth while doing backchodi on internet.

And since you have played your Islamophobia card (how Predictable!!), I would like to ask @waz and @Irfan Baloch , the people you have quoted, as to whether Islam approves insulting people who are earning a honest living, calling them derogatory names , and does Islam promotes leaching on other people's labour to finance your delusions?
 
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And since you have played your Islamophobia card (how Predictable!!), I would like to ask @waz and @Irfan Baloch , the people you have quoted, as to whether Islam approves insulting people who are earning a honest living, calling them derogatory names , and does Islam promotes leaching on other people's labour to finance your delusions?

Islam was not discussed at all in this thread, not even once. He played the 'Islam card' thinking that mods would jump to action just by reading his post, which they didn't. :)
 
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Huh :o:

I know nothing about software but after reading @temp1994 'post it would seem neither does Jamahir. So all this time he was hoodwinking all of us non-software people using computery sounding words that he doesn't understand himself !!!

"Something is rotten in the state of denmark"
 
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Huh :o:

I know nothing about software but after reading @temp1994 'post it would seem neither does Jamahir. So all this time he was hoodwinking all of us non-software people using computery sounding words that he doesn't understand himself !!!

"Something is rotten in the state of denmark"

Even I am not a software engineer, but I know that OS is not zenith of programming. One of my classmate made an OS in C++ for class XII computer project ,and nearly a decade ago, a senior from our school had wrote an OS in FORTAN. OS is like any other computer program. You do not need extraordinary capability to write it. The problem here is that you cannot write a better OS than Microsoft could, hence your OS would have no market value and only you and your friends would use it for lulz.It would have very little usability (My friend's OS could not play video songs. It could only play MP3 and read PDF),and any time a new development like a new video/audio codec or a plugin come forth, you would have to rewrite your OS code to accommodate it.


Had Jamahir not dropped out from college, he would have known that OS writing is not such a difficult endeavor.Some time back, every programmer has to write his own OS to run his machine.

This link would be useful: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~exr/lectures/opsys/10_11/lectures/os-dev.pdf

And regarding DRDO's OS that @jamahir is ranting about; his own source state that it was meant for securing defence based applications .
 
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what?? :lol:

As by your own admission

admission?? are you describing a crime??

Which anyone who even know basics of microprocessor manufacturing and design could tell, that does not exist (because microprocessors are collection of large number of nanometer long transistors and require perfect dustless environment for their manufacture and could not be done in a garage)

don't you know what emulator and fpga are??

Emulator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Field-programmable gate array - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even I am not a software engineer, but I know that OS is not zenith of programming. One of my classmate made an OS in C++ for class XII computer project ,and nearly a decade ago, a senior from our school had wrote an OS in FORTAN. OS is like any other computer program. You do not need extraordinary capability to write it.

if writing a os is not the zenith in computing, why don't you and your friends design a new computing environment entirely ( processor, computer, os, i/o system, internet )??

The problem here is that you cannot write a better OS than Microsoft could, hence your OS would have no market value and only you and your friends would use it for lulz

so why don't you and your friend design a os better than windows or qnx for that matter?? contact drdo and take contract from them... what is stopping you if designing os is everyday work??

And regarding DRDO's OS that @jamahir is ranting about; his own source state that it was meant for securing defence based applications .

escape clause, eh??

but where is that sooper dooper thing, almost five years after announcement??

from 2012...
He said 150 engineers were working across the country on creating Indian OS, and added it will take at least three more years for getting the Indian OS ready.

"It is our Indian effort...we are not having any foreign involvement in this," Saraswat pointed out.

so, it should have been demonstrated by now, yes??

the kaspersky company ( the anti-virus program maker ) announced a limited-application new os project in 2012, later than drdo's announcement but seem to have a proper goal in mind ( Kaspersky Lab's New Secure Operating System | Nota Bene: Eugene Kaspersky's Official Blog ).

You are one useless escapist who not only running away from work and responsibilities, but avoiding straight questions also.

escapist, eh??

what is your solution to india's problems when i or other post them - geting defensive and abusive.

at least two thousand of my posts speak of real solutions for world problems and that is my main contribution here... what is yours??

you really are the escapist who uses "can't get by" to cloud your cowardice and non-intellect... what for example is your solution for the farmer suicides?? now don't bore me with sob stories of you having to "earn a living"... give me a proper solution, okay??

there are chaps who just don't want to work, prefer to spend time in roadside tea shops or internet forums

huzoor, then you shouldn't be on pdf... after all, the burden of responsibilities weighs you down every minute... you should have exited pdf long back.

but reality is this... i am among the ones with responsibility to bring changes to entire society ( national and transnational ) and you are unable to bear responsibility of people beyond your family... you are a parasite.

This guy has managed to annoy and irritate 99% of all Indians on this forum

yeah, and those 99 percent are such enlightened progressives. :tup:

do you realize that no other nationality here likes that 99 percent?? in fact, that type has so much embarrassed the india flag that two or three other nationals have automatically looked at my flags when judging me.

i don't know why your 99 percent persists on pdf... since you are the honorable "hard worker", retain your honor and exit pdf.

even posters like milspec who is one of the sanest, most balanced person just lost his cool with him.

we all know what company milspec keeps.

doesn't have a clue what Infosys or TCS actually do, but that does not prevent him from claiming they do nothing.

okay... give me a non-non-answer about what they do.
 
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My dearest @jamahir With every post you make I can see more clearly how you managed to fail your college exams.

I am the first to admit I know nothing about software and can't tell the difference between Linux and a Lynx but if you have read the posts of those who do know what they are talking about then all your questions have already been answered, I am amazed at your brazenness or do you have comprehension difficulty? I thought it was only math you failed?

1. a new OS without substantial advantages over Windows cannot be marketed
2. IT is past its nascent stage, further innovation "garage" style is difficult. you need sterile labs and/or teams of professionals

So why do you keep making the same nonsense point again and again?

What so called "real solution" did you provide in those 2000 posts for all the problems of the world, other than FREE this and FREE that....who is going to provide all the free stuff? How do you PAY for it? I know you have such disdain for money but that is because your mommy GIVES it to you. Not everyone has a source like that.

"YOU have responsibility to bring changes to whole society nationally and transnationally" !!!!! :suicide2:

A while back, I used to work for an international development agency, the first lesson we learnt was that technical assistance has to be appropriate to the society being assisted. this lesson came I remember with a picture of a monkey scooping a fish out of the river to " save" it from drowning. Any assistance you provide to save the world will be something like rescuing that poor fish...so please save the world from your assistance.

God bless.
 
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I am amazed at your brazenness or do you have comprehension difficulty? I thought it was only math you failed?

first see the thanks i am getting for my first comment on the first page.

1. a new OS without substantial advantages over Windows cannot be marketed

agreed.

so what is the problem that make infosys and its 70,000+ engineers ( graduates and phds ) not able to think of a post-windows or non-windows os/computer design??

2. IT is past its nascent stage, further innovation "garage" style is difficult. you need sterile labs and/or teams of professionals

a emulator can be built to build/design/demonstrate a processor or computer environment, and fpga boards ( from xilinx, altera etc ) can be obtained commercially for the same purpose as above... garage-style development.

i am talking of development and not the further stage of manufacture which would require a factory setup... though even in manufacturing, 3-d printing is developing as a science.

So why do you keep making the same nonsense point again and again?

for the last time, why do you keep pattering the same nonsensical abuse for eight pages when i had asked two simple questions in the first page - (a). why should the indian it industry be allowed to exist when it has contributed nothing to computing and the world at large, (b). where is the sooper dooper operating system whose development drdo announced in 2010??

try to answer these two without resorting to escapist abuse.

What so called "real solution" did you provide in those 2000 posts for all the problems of the world, other than FREE this and FREE that....who is going to provide all the free stuff? How do you PAY for it?

you have to first get it into your mind that money system is not natural... and then you will begin to listen.

A while back, I used to work for an international development agency, the first lesson we learnt was that technical assistance has to be appropriate to the society being assisted. this lesson came I remember with a picture of a monkey scooping a fish out of the river to " save" it from drowning. Any assistance you provide to save the world will be something like rescuing that poor fish...so please save the world from your assistance.

you tried being a social worker and obviously social work and ngo's don't solve anything... try being a socialist now.

god bless.
 
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@jamahir You ask the same stupid questions again and again, really what is the matter with you ? Nothing absolutely nothing penetrates into that brain of yours. Everything has already been responded to at least 10 times and it is also been made clear to you why people object to your comments but you have comprehended NOTHING. I might as well talk to my neighbors cat.

Please don't reply to me anymore,I am truly done with you. I think you must be one of the most stupid people I have ever met. Bye.
 
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i understand the outraged feathers of three twits on this thread... for nine pages, they have been unable to answer my two simple points, and being the right-wingers they are, resorted to personal attacks for so long.
 
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@jamahir You ask the same stupid questions again and again, really what is the matter with you ? Nothing absolutely nothing penetrates into that brain of yours. Everything has already been responded to at least 10 times and it is also been made clear to you why people object to your comments but you have comprehended NOTHING. I might as well talk to my neighbors cat.

Please don't reply to me anymore,I am truly done with you. I think you must be one of the most stupid people I have ever met. Bye.

Exactly..

escapist, eh??

what is your solution to india's problems when i or other post them - geting defensive and abusive.

at least two thousand of my posts speak of real solutions for world problems and that is my main contribution here... what is yours??

you really are the escapist who uses "can't get by" to cloud your cowardice and non-intellect... what for example is your solution for the farmer suicides?? now don't bore me with sob stories of you having to "earn a living"... give me a proper solution, okay??

I think living a parasitic life on others income without working and ranting on internet won't save that poor farmer either.

huzoor, then you shouldn't be on pdf... after all, the burden of responsibilities weighs you down every minute... you should have exited pdf long back.

As expected, you see responsibility as burden.

but reality is this... i am among the ones with responsibility to bring changes to entire society ( national and transnational ) and you are unable to bear responsibility of people beyond your family... you are a parasite.

Now, when that thingy happened? You know, actually you are not fooling around, you are clinically delusional, you should seek professional help before it's too late (probably it is already..).

if writing a os is not the zenith in computing, why don't you and your friends design a new computing environment entirely ( processor, computer, os, i/o system, internet )??

so why don't you and your friend design a os better than windows or qnx for that matter?? contact drdo and take contract from them... what is stopping you if designing os is everyday work??

@temp1994 now you have failed too, that head has a defunct processor.
 
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I think living a parasitic life on others income without working and ranting on internet won't save that poor farmer either.

yes, coming on a international forum and being vulgarly hyper-nationalist certainly will help indian farmers...

three sanghi members surrounding a lone socialist in the manner of three unspeakables surrounding a cat will certainly save indian farmers...

As expected, you see responsibility as burden.

ghanta responsibility !!

huzoor-e-aala, for the nth time, are you a coward that you find comfort in being part of the sanghi majority on pdf rather than joining a progressive political movement??

Now, when that thingy happened? You know, actually you are not fooling around, you are clinically delusional, you should seek professional help before it's too late (probably it is already..).

i want you to visit each of the below sites and tell them what you said to me above... and post here copies of the mails/messages you have sent...


start on monday and compose/send a message each day... post on pdf each message you send and if any reply from them.

failure to do this exercise will declare you to be a coward at best... remember, a international audience watches you on pdf.

@temp1994 now you have failed too, that head has a defunct processor.

no, no... we will wait for temp1994 and his friends to come up with a "made in india" operating system and the other things i mentioned... as he mentioned, his friends have written a starter's os, so let us wait for them to design a magnifique os that will improve on windows/linux at one end and qnx neutrino at the other end.
 
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