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Those who slaughter cows have no right to live in India: Uttarakhand CM Harish Rawat

Sure you can do what ever you want , as you can see what France is facing after that ?are you ready for that ?
If cow is holy figure to you then why not you keep them to your homes ?why let them wondering ,pissing & doing intercourse in front of dam public ?
What next chicken your holy figure too?
Then eggs ?
Then what next ?
One thing you should also keep in your mind this is PAKISTAN DEFENCE FOURM , here we do what we like to do , we are not here to listen some hinduism,s wonders ?
I respect it as your religion , i dont care if you wants to take a bath with the pissss of cows which i think you do it regularly ?lolzz
but if you going to use it as a source of social control to me ? no way I'm going to accept that , cause I don't live in India .
We are doing what we should....
Then you must be celebrating the innocent killing in the name of offense to Green cult ...
What next ? Not hard to guess .... Add Pbuh on Bagdaadi as he truly avenging from french for the cause of Green......
 
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We are doing what we should....
Then you must be celebrating the innocent killing in the name of offense to Green cult ...
What next ? Not hard to guess .... Add Pbuh on Bagdaadi as he truly avenging from french for the cause of Green......
No I'm not ,never in the liking of any of the stupid scums like them ISIS ?
But that not means that I start , calling a cow my mother ?lolzz
& take her piss , as parsaad ?
I live in a open society , where peoples likes to eat pork , I never went to threaten them for eating a pork ?
They eat what they like , I eat nice beef kebabs , its heart , its liver , its meat & no one ever tried to ask me anything about it ?
Because Thailand is truly a secular country even though waste majority is Buddhist but they are good & sensible peoples living in modern world ?
Unlike India , where I think most of Hindus take a bath from cow,s piss day & night ?
Even USIS terrorists isn't killing peoples because they eat pork ?
But their thinking is nearly the same of BJP & other stupid hindu extetmist cults , who take bath with cows piss & get highly objected when pointed out ?lolzz
That's called extremism , which was in motion in Gujarat & behind the destruction of babari mosque ?
Jealous , weak , socially backward Hindus are trying stupid ideology , which can't be justifyed in 2015 ?lolzz

May be they can use chicken leather that will be easier for them to farm !



Watch it you can be banned for insulting any religion. Edit your post
No I'm not , cause its not IDF , & donkey is not their god ?lolzz
 
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Dear jamahir, thanks for your post,

First of all reading your earlier posts in various threads, this is our first discussion I assume, I came to the conclusion that
you are anti-BJP, Cat lower, Congress Supporter, Dog hatter, Muslim. You can call me Modi supporter, congress with Yuvraj hatter, Animal Lover and tilt toward dog, Hindu.
So lets leave all our sentiment aside for the discussion. A talk between a Man to Man.





Thats the Problem, you have misinformation about the dogs evolution or should I say domestication of the present dogs. Actually both wolves and dogs have a common ancestor and the separation from the gray wolves took place some how close to the human evolution, Man is the reason for the present dogs with the selective breeding.




Homosexuality also happens in Humans, so should we hate all humans. And BTW where did you find the homosexuality of the dog and that too open LOLZ Very difficult because dogs gets sexually arroused due to the smell of the female dog, when is she is ready for the mating. Jamahir are you speculating everything.



I had cat and dog both, and egyptian worshiping cat or rat or bat what it has to do with the discussion.



LOLZ did you find a simple fact that if from 10 houses 1 house adopt a dog, then there would be no stray dog in the whole world. Comparing dog and cat, dog is a social animal and make relationship with the humans but cats only recognize the place. Do you know that ?
I have both a cat and a dog in my house, and I have my girl child, and I don't trust my cat than my dog. I am glad my dog is also in my house and knew he will protect her at all cost.



I know your hate to RSS which is the nationalist party or the group. Its the VHP vishva hindu parishad which is the religious party. Bajrang Dal is the hindu group, without any political involvement and Shiv Sena and BJP are the Political Party and is Ideologically linked with RSS.

Now for you let me assume I joined RSS, does it makes me terrorist, and is RSS a Terrorist organisation like ISIS. What makes the difference if I joined RSS or BJP, yes I joined BJP via Mobile SMS in its joining campain, so do you think I am linked with the Sang Parivar and I am a terrorist. There are few radical group that want to defame the real meaning of HINDUTVA, which is not related to any religion, but the nationalist call. Any one commenting negative on RSS should know that RSS is It is the world's largest voluntary non-governmental organisation. RSS states that its ideology is based on the principle of selfless service to India.

This is the Karnataka High court statement
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Prima facie the RSS is a non-political cultural organisation without any hatred or ill will towards non-Hindus and that many eminent and respected persons in the country have not hesitated to preside over the functions or appreciate the work of its volunteers. In a country like ours which has accepted the democratic way of life (as ensured by the Constitution), it would not be within reason to accept the proposition that mere membership of such peaceful or non-violent association and participation in activities thereof, will render a person (in whose character and antecedents there are no other defects) unsuitable to be appointed to the post of a Munsiff.

— Karnataka High Court
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interested persons. Look ahead! Go ahead! The country is standing in need of your services Zakir Hussain, former President of India told Milad Mehfil in Monghyar on 20 November 1949, "The allegations against RSS of violence and hatred against Muslims are wholly false. Muslims should learn the lesson of mutual love, cooperation and organisation from RSS.

Field Marshal Cariappa in his speech to RSS volunteers said "RSS is my heart's work. My dear young men, don't be disturbed by uncharitable comments of interested persons. Look ahead! Go ahead! The country is standing in need of your services"

Gandhian leader and the leader of Sarvoday movement, Jayaprakash Narayan, who earlier was a vocal opponent of RSS had the following to say about it in 1977 "RSS is a revolutionary organisation. No other organisation in the country comes anywhere near it. It alone has the capacity to transform society, end casteism and wipe the tears from the eyes of the poor." He further added "I have great expectations from this revolutionary organisation which has taken up the challenge of creating a new India."




I can give you a long list of other leaders making such statement, but the question is what does it has to do with the Mrs Maneeka Gandhi -- Does standing in the election from the CPI does, you become a communist ?



This shows how much radical person you are ? Weighing with the religious, society, and birth of some one. Indian Constitution Give you right to change your name from Jamahir, to Mike Tyson, who is stopping you.



The moment the law is bassed to ban the religious party, you would be the one chanting anti-muslim, anti-minority law by the government.



No interest in the AAP with the political dream of one person name arvind kejriwal, who is the CM of the city called Delhi, where a Mayor was more than enough to handle, and avoid the mess.



Dogs so called gangs are attracted to the food what we through here and there, a simple solution -- I agree with Mrs Meenka Gandhi to put the food at one place away from the human houses. Question is did you understand this simple thing.



C'mon every one fight for living on the daily basis, even you and I. When their is scarcity of food, they fight to survive -- moto the fittest and powerful survives. They fight during the mating period -- The moto every organism want his genes to get passed to the next generation. These rules are the rules of the Nature. and every organism in the world follows the same. If you are comming from some other world, I will exclude you from that.



I am also a dog lover.

she is an animal lover and I am also an animal lover, and that includes cats, horse, elephants, snakes, cows etc etc

Question is Are you only a cat lover ?



Check the news of the Man killing another Man -- you won't find any difficulty in doing so

So by your logic humans should be killed, because they are growing at very high rate, and they are danger to another human ?

Check this out
ChileAN 2-year-old kept alive by dog after his mother left him severely neglected | Daily Mail Online

Thats the news and I have witness one instance personally in Gwalior, when a female dog was trying to nurture the infant girl baby, who was thrown in the thrash to die. I won't mind if the dogs will eat those culpits in front of whole town slowly.



I stand to my declaration Idiotic and phethatic thought.



The question is Did you inform Meneka Gandhi, and she didn't responded you or took any action. By the way she is only an animal welface activist, and not a present wild life minister. Why don't you reach her and tell her.

Check this

Maneka Gandhi ropes in Big B, Salman for elephant rehab - The Times of India

Man faces animal-torture charge after dog shot in head with arrow | MLive.com

Nevada man who tortured and killed 7 DOGS sentenced to up to 28 years in prison | Daily Mail Online
Can you stop sonia Gandhi eating beef kebabs in somewhere EU or her home country in Italy ?lolzz
 
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Can you stop sonia Gandhi eating beef kebabs in somewhere EU or her home country in Italy ?lolzz

You just made me hungry.

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Janab that OHT for you so leave this.
OK , my friend I leave this thread , for 24 hours just because of our friendship ?
But really , I was about to take all of these boggies out one by one ?
They don't know my capabilities ?lolzz
 
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OK , my friend I leave this thread , for 24 hours just because of our friendship ?
But really , I was about to take all of these boggies out one by one ?
They don't know my capabilities ?lolzz
Are my bhai I know your capability, but Pls I am having some discussion with jamahir ?

Tag me some where else Bhai and good day.
 
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Do those who slaughter rats have right to live in india?I see many Indians who worship rats.
 
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My Indian friends tell me they are free to slaughter cow, but eating beef is banned. Didn't make sense. Can somebody highlight me what exactly is the rule and law for the Indian Muslims who would like to consume beef?
 
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My Indian friends tell me they are free to slaughter cow, but eating beef is banned. Didn't make sense. Can somebody highlight me what exactly is the rule and law for the Indian Muslims who would like to consume beef?

There are different rules/laws in different states, and central govt have no role in that. First Beef includes both buffaloes and cow. Many states have the law that prohibits the slaughter of cow, and some states like Kerela, and north eastern states permits slaughter of law. There is also a guidelines for the slaughter of beef on the basis of ages, like the cattle whose age is below is prohibited to be send to butchery.

@MilSpec could explain it better.
 
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My Indian friends tell me they are free to slaughter cow, but eating beef is banned. Didn't make sense. Can somebody highlight me what exactly is the rule and law for the Indian Muslims who would like to consume beef?

its just the opposite , its not the beef eating that is banned, but the slaughter of the cow. So you can have lab produced beef meat.







Ban on slaughter of cattle is clearly documented as a Directive Principle of State Policy in Part IV of Indian Constitution. It has been clearly stated that ” it shall be the duty of the State to apply these principles in
making laws.” (Para 37)


Para 48 states that:
“The State shall endeavour to organise agriculture and animal husbandry on modern and scientific lines and shall, in particular, take steps for preserving and improving the breeds, and prohibiting the slaughter, of cows and calves and other milch and draught cattle.”
 
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You know what I find ridiculous about this worship of cow? It doesn't make any logical sense. I've met several Hindus in the US that eat goat, pig, chicken and other animals yet they won't touch beef. I asked them what makes beef different and they claim it's because the cow provides milk and is like a mother. Okay, well so do goats (goat milk and cheese) and chickens provide eggs. So if we're discussing utility, several animals that are slaughtered offer just as much if not more utility than a cow does.

Now Hindus may question why Muslims and Jews refrain from eating pig and for that you have to consider that pig meat typically contains taenia solium (tapeworm) and modern slaughterhouses still have trouble ensuring pork is free of it and that's why it is always recommended that pig meat is thoroughly cooked, so the eggs and worms are sterilized (yuck!). So if you go back 1400+ years ago, it makes sense they prohibited pig meat considering how dangerous it probably was to eat since they weren't lucky enough to have drugs like Albendazole or Praziquantel to cure infections like we do today. Pigs are also viewed as dirty animals because they essentially eat anything, from meat to their own feces.

Now if every Hindu took the more logical approach that ANY slaughter and consumption of animal is wrong because you're taking a life, that would make a little more sense. However, I've seen some that take that stand but it is also taken to extremes (Jains) who won't even touch products made from eggs.

So essentially, if Hindus can't even agree on what is allowed or prohibited in their religion and many of them have their own interpretations of their teachings, why should others who are not Hindu be expected to follow these tenants let alone understand them? Muslims and Jews are very clear about the reason to refrain from consuming pig but Hindus aren't with regards to cow and other animals.
 
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Yeah i too believe deducing earth is flat is the forward thinking of Medieval intellect from sand dwellers .....
Done here in this thread .....
Sure go get some beef kebabs , so you can get some energy ?lolzz

My Indian friends tell me they are free to slaughter cow, but eating beef is banned. Didn't make sense. Can somebody highlight me what exactly is the rule and law for the Indian Muslims who would like to consume beef?
Long time ,not seen you , sir !
We need you to describe what you think about the while issue ?
 
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My Indian friends tell me they are free to slaughter cow, but eating beef is banned. Didn't make sense. Can somebody highlight me what exactly is the rule and law for the Indian Muslims who would like to consume beef?

i live in south india and beef is available here, but the beef is not cow meat but of buffalo and this is how most beef is in india with the remaining being non-cow cattle meat... i don't know if cow meat was ever available in india since 1947, despite the sangh parivar talking constantly of "cow slaughter".

and beef dishes and a associated item like bone soup are consumed not only by muslims but also other communities including hindus.

although in one of the south states, karnataka, the sangh has created riots about the beef issue ( Karnataka sees four communal clashes and one riot in just a week - Livemint )... the state is ruled by the congress party and the chief minister ( a hindu ) had said that he will eat beef if he feels like it and the bjp party responded with ( BJP leader threatens to behead Karnataka CM if he eats beef | The Indian Express ).

from ( HC lawyers eat beef, protest ban - TAMIL NADU - The Hindu )...
“Beef is the poor man’s meat and the ban shows the BJP government doesn’t care for people belonging to the lower strata of society,” said advocate Marx Ravindran of the Progressive Advocates Association.
this was from march this year and from madras city ( now called chennai ), the capital of the south indian state of tamil nadu... the gentleman seems but be hindu-born but his name also suggests that either his parents were influenced by socialism or he changed his name later... also, his association's name suggests that it is a socialist organization.


however, in maharashtra state ( capital bombay ), beef is banned entirely ( Beef banned in Maharashtra: Five years jail, Rs 10,000 for possession and sale - Firstpost )... it is also true for himachal pradesh ( the north indian state in the himalayas )... this ( The states where cow slaughter is legal in India | The Indian Express ) is a state-wise list of where beef is available and what kind of beef it is.


specifically kashmir, this ( Kashmir shuts down in protest over high court beef ban - Al Jazeera English ) was the situation in september... in october, what happened ( you may know this ) was a kashmiri muslim independent politician ( a member of the state parliament ) hosted a beef party at his official residence in srinagar and then this happened ( Day After Beef Party, Jammu and Kashmir Lawmaker Thrashed By BJP Members ) and then this ( Ink attack on Jammu and Kashmir MLA Rashid Engineer over beef party | The Indian Express ).


generally, in the northern states of haryana, punjab and himachal pradesh, the bjp and the rest of the sangh have arranged a militia which hunts for cattle transporters, whether they are for meat or the leather industry... this militia called "gau raksha dal" ( "cow protection group" ) is a notorious terror organization ( Haryana's Brutal Cattle Vigilantes, Notorious for YouTube Videos, Appear to be Above the Law )... you will find their yt vids where they are torturing various people "arrested" by them or burning trucks suspected of transporting cattle for slaughter.


again, read this state-wise list ( The states where cow slaughter is legal in India | The Indian Express ) of where beef is available and what kind of beef it is.

maybe in the northern and western states, it would be more dangerous for a poor or rural muslim to be "caught" eating beef by the sanghis.

i hope this information was useful.
 
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My Indian friends tell me they are free to slaughter cow, but eating beef is banned.
Pretty much the opposite is true. Your friends are misinformed.

Cow slaughter is banned or very regulated in most states. But beef is allowed in a few more states. It includes meat of buffaloes.

I asked them what makes beef different and they claim it's because the cow provides milk and is like a mother. Okay, well so do goats (goat milk and cheese)
Unlike goats, cows are given names and considered a part of family. Murder of a cow (yes, murder) is tantamount to human slaughter in Hindu philosophy. Plus cows provide much much greater benefits in their lifetime - from birth to death (milk, tilling land, transport, manure that goes to the field, urine that goes to the field, hide used after natural death) when compared to other animals. No other animal provides as much. Nandi and other such vahanas are revered in Dharmic philosophy.

That is the reason. In a nutshell.
 
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