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This is what China did to beat coronavirus. Experts say America couldn't handle it
Kim Hjelmgaard, Eric J. Lyman and Deirdre Shesgreen
April 1 2020

In late February, as coronavirus infections mounted in Wuhan, China, local authorities went door-to-door for health checks – forcibly isolating every resident in makeshift hospitals and temporary quarantine shelters, even separating parents from young children who displayed symptoms of COVID-19, no matter how seemingly mild.

Caretakers at the city's ubiquitous large apartment buildings were pressed into service as ad hoc security guards, monitoring the temperatures of all residents, deciding who could come in, and implementing inspections of delivered food and medicines.

Outside, drones hovered above streets, yelling at people to get inside and scolding them for not wearing face masks, while elsewhere in China facial-recognition software, linked to a mandatory phone app that color-coded people based on their contagion risk, decided who could enter shopping malls, subways, cafes and other public spaces.

"We couldn't go outside under any circumstances. Not even if you have a pet," said Wang Jingjun, 27, a graduate student who returned to Wuhan from the Chinese coastal province of Guangdong, which borders Hong Kong and Macau, in mid-January to live with her elderly mother and grandparents. "Those with dogs had to play with them inside and teach them to use the bathroom in a certain spot," she said.

China’s zero contact: ‘It seems extreme. It works’
As the epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic has moved to the United States, Chinese officials and public health experts insist that even if President Donald Trump were to immediately adopt all the strict testing and lockdown measures that Western scientific advisers are advocating, these actions would still not be sufficient to stem the spread of a disease that is swiftly approaching a million worldwide cases.

More draconian steps are needed in the U.S., these officials say, although they also cast doubt on whether Americans could do what the Chinese did, for a mixture of reasons: political will and deep-rooted cultural inclinations, among them.

To help quell its outbreak, Beijing embarked on one of the largest mass mobilization efforts in history, closing all schools, forcing millions of people inside, quickly building more than a dozen vast temporary hospitals, deploying thousands of extra medical staff to Wuhan and the surrounding Hubei province, and meticulously testing and tracing anyone and everyone who may have encountered the virus.

But it did a lot more than that.

"Lockdowns, bans on gatherings, basic quarantines, testing, hand-washing, this is not enough," Huiyao Wang, a senior adviser to China's government, told USA TODAY in a phone interview from Beijing. "You need to isolate people on an enormous scale, in stadiums, big exhibition halls, wherever you can. It seems extreme. It works," he said.

"'No one left behind' was the slogan in Wuhan," he said. "No one."

In the U.S., Trump has urged Americans to avoid gatherings of 10 or more people and suggested the worst-affected states should shutter schools, bars and restaurants.

But overall, he has largely left it to individual states and cities to decide whether to close businesses or explicitly order people to stay at home, despite evidence from countries in Asia, such as China, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan, that aggressively limiting public gatherings and social interactions can help stop transmission of COVID-19, when done in combination with extensive testing and tracing of the disease.

Trump has said he expects to see U.S. cases peak "around Easter," although his claims about how quickly the U.S. can overcome the outbreak and bounce back appear to contradict assessments from top health officials, such as Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

With New York City the new locus of the outbreak, Trump announced on March 29 an extension of federal guidance on social-distancing measures through April and issued a "strong travel advisory" urging residents of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut to refrain from non-essential travel for 14 days to help limit the spread of the virus.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the new restrictions would help to slow the spread of the respiratory illness, which has now infected almost 190,000 Americans and killed more than 4,000. The daily death toll in the U.S. may not dip below 100 per day before June, according to a new study by the University of Washington.

China’s nationwide response vs. America’s patchwork
Wang, the Chinese government adviser, said the example of Wuhan, where authorities have now started lifting some of their stringent anti-virus controls that kept tens of millions of people at home for two months, illustrates that the U.S. and West more generally need to start taking far more radical virus-dampening actions that many people outside China might find culturally, logistically and emotionally unpalatable.

"It was not just families being isolated together in Wuhan, but individuals being isolated away from their friends and families," said Andy Mok, a fellow at the Center for China and Globalization, a public policy think tank based in Beijing.

"China's response to the outbreak was truly a nationwide response: systematic, comprehensive and coordinated," he said. "This is why China was able to 'flatten the curve' so dramatically," he added, referring to social isolation measures aimed at keeping the number of new coronavirus infections at a manageable level for hospitals and medical workers who would otherwise be overwhelmed with sick patients.

Mok said that even in Beijing, about 750 miles north of Wuhan, new coronavirus rules were established requiring residents to have a formal pass to get in and out of their apartment buildings and homes. At the outbreak's height in Wuhan, nobody was allowed in or out of the city and access to food stores was limited to once every few days.

He questioned whether Americans, raised on a diet of individualism and civil liberties that has informed every aspect of life from travel to economic institutions, would be willing to abide by invasive virus-detection and containment methods that require a strong commitment to "collectivism" and abridged freedoms.

Europe has adopted some, but not all, of China’s most restrictive steps. In France, for example, residents must fill out of a signed attestation to justify leaving their homes or apartments. Police are handing out large fines for anyone who doesn’t follow the rules.

"It's a very clever form of social engineering for civic purposes: it forces you to think about and justify to yourself as well as to the world why you are leaving the house," said Sarah Maza, a French history professor and U.S. citizen living in France for the year.

Yang Junchao, a member of a Chinese delegation of COVID-19 doctors and medical experts assisting Italy's efforts at halting its coronavirus infections – the worst in Europe – said its epidemic will be controlled "as long as the Italian public cooperates."

Still, some American public health officials have acknowledged that in order to bring the virus under control – outside of a vaccine breakthrough – actions that overstep the bounds of what most Americans would be comfortable with, such as mass quarantines and other severe restrictions on movement, may be necessary.

"The approach we should be taking right now is one that most people would find to be too drastic because otherwise, it is not drastic enough," said Francis Collins, the director of the National Institutes of Health, in a recent USA TODAY interview.

"It may be a country like China has a more top-down ability to insist on certain behavior changes. But we ought to be able to do it in our way, in a bottom-up fashion," he said.

‘Widespread discontent and dissatisfaction’ in China?
While China's official figures show that transmission of the coronavirus has all but ended in most of the country's regions, unverified reports and online photos have begun to circulate suggesting that China's death toll, most of them in Wuhan, could be far higher than the 3,312 figure published by China's National Health Commission.

The Beijing-based Caixin newspaper reported on March 27 significantly elevated official cremation rates in Wuhan, possibly indicating a more substantial death figure, though the report acknowledges the increases were inconclusive. It is also not clear how extensively China has been counting asymptomatic cases, though it is tracking them.

Trump administration officials have repeatedly condemned China's initial suppression of warnings about the outbreak and questioned the accuracy of Beijing's infection figures.

China's central government meanwhile has dismissed persistent allegations that it's been trying to downplay the severity of infections, although it has not denied initially detaining whistleblowing doctors and citizen journalists in December who tried to speak out about a mysterious virus in Wuhan. China's National Health Commission said Tuesday it will start including asymptomatic coronavirus carriers in its daily figures.

As of April 1, China recorded fewer than half – about 82,000 – the number of U.S. coronavirus cases. However, it appears to be bracing for a potential second-wave of infections and over the last few days China has had to re-close some public spaces and businesses, such as movie theaters, amid spiking clusters of cases, mostly imported.

"The Chinese are trying to paint the narrative that the model they have pursued has been a huge success and that we are failing," because of our mode of governance, said J. Stephen Morrison, director of the Global Health Policy Center at the Center for Strategic and International Affairs (CSIS), a Washington think tank, in a media briefing.

Morrison said that there's significant evidence that the Chinese government’s handling of the crisis has sparked "widespread discontent and dissatisfaction," pointing specifically to the case of Dr. Li Wenliang, who was detained when he first tried to alert other health care providers about the novel coronavirus. He later died from the virus.

And Heather Conley, the director of the Europe program at CSIS, said that while the response in democratic countries like the U.S. may look chaotic, there’s strength in that approach. "You have neighbors helping neighbors, and you have states making decisions. Sometimes it’s the federal level having to catch up with those decisions, and that’s a much more dynamic, nimble and resilient response," she said.

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Jan Renders, 29, a graduate student who was studying Chinese politics at Central China Normal University in Wuhan and airlifted out on Feb. 1 to his home in Belgium, said that the Chinese response was "too harsh" and lacked transparency.

"In Wuhan, when everything went into lockdown nobody could come or go and that included patients. The hospitals were overloaded and I’m sure people died because they couldn’t be transported to other hospitals, where there was room," he said, noting that German hospitals have started taking coronavirus patients from overcrowded hospitals in Italy, where more than 12,400 people have died of COVID-19, the most anywhere.

Yet Edward Tse, the Hong Kong-based founder of the Gao Feng Advisory Company, a management consultancy with roots in mainland China, said that his perception is that, on the whole, most people in China supported the government's tough measures, including systematically isolating and quarantining carriers of the virus, even if they were from the same family or had a very mild or only suspected coronavirus infection.

"Isolation is the key," he said. "It just depends on how you do it. The Chinese government decided to do it in a certain way. It turned out to be quite effective."

A British video blogger posted a video on China's Twitter-like Weibo platform last week that explained how China implemented the softer side of its policy of "ling jiechu," which translates as "zero contact." It allowed neighborhood committees to take charge of arrangements for shopping and deliveries. Highways were made toll-free, with no limits to the number of cars on a road, previously not the case. For those without a car, customized bus routes were set up, operated according to demand, and with tickets purchased on a smartphone app and capacity set at 50%. Many restaurants installed basic, but effective pulley systems to maintain employee-customer distance.

Wang, the student who returned to Wuhan from Guangdong to live with her elderly relatives, said many people in China "have the idea, and maybe it’s a stereotype, that medical care" in the U.S. and Europe is more advanced than in China.

"I am worried about places like New York City and Milan," she said. "I don’t know why the deaths are so much higher there. I hope they will be strong and keep calm."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...asures-lockdowns-mass-quarantines/2938374001/
 
Chinese method is not the only one that has proven to be effective - look at S Korea as an example where life pretty much carried on as normal.
 
Chinese method is not the only one that has proven to be effective - look at S Korea as an example where life pretty much carried on as normal.

they had contact tracing because the disease appeared in isolated single cases.

China did not have that luxury because we had to discover a new virus with flu symptoms in the middle of flu season within 3 weeks. the only way to do it was discover virus, discover transmission mechanism, then quarantine.

This proves that Chinese CDC is the premier disease fighting organization on planet Earth.
 
cope harder. they had contact tracing because the disease appeared in isolated single cases.

China did not have that luxury because we had to discover a new virus with flu symptoms in the middle of flu season within 3 weeks. the only way to do it was discover virus, discover transmission mechanism, then quarantine.

This proves that Chinese CDC is the premier disease fighting organization on planet Earth.


S Korean example could have been used by others if they had the infrastructure setup for it
 
S Korean example could have been used by others if they had the infrastructure setup for it

once the transmission is community spread, there is no way to do contact tracing. there are too many cases. there are only 3 ways once there is widespread community spread:

1. total quarantine (Chinese approach).
2. allow virus to spread in the population freely and hope it's not too lethal (UK/Brazil approach).
3. allow virus to spread in the population a small bit at a time and quarantine the rest (US approach).

Only 1. avoids mass death. 2. is the most brutal. 3. is a compromise strategy when 1 is not feasible but still results in large amounts of death.
 
once the transmission is community spread, there is no way to do contact tracing. there are too many cases. there are only 3 ways once there is widespread community spread:

1. total quarantine (Chinese approach).
2. allow virus to spread in the population freely and hope it's not too lethal (UK/Brazil approach).
3. allow virus to spread in the population a small bit at a time and quarantine the rest (US approach).

Only 1. avoids mass death. 2. is the most brutal. 3. is a compromise strategy when 1 is not feasible but still results in large amounts of death.

No I meant before community transmissions happen.
Europe and US had that window in January.

Your point 2. is not correct as UK government is currently following the "Suppression" model. They wanted to try as you suggested but got frightened when a computer simulation predicted 500,000 deaths.
 
No I meant before community transmissions happen.
Europe and US had that window in January.

Your point 2. is not correct as UK government is currently following the "Suppression" model. They wanted to try as you suggested but got frightened when a computer simulation predicted 500,000 deaths.

I see, UK has wisely changed its strategy. Now Brazil is following the previous UK strategy. the suppression is the only one that minimizes death. it is also the mostly costly.

Note that Xi Jinping is the only one who never talks about the economy when talking about how to deal with coronavirus.
 
once the transmission is community spread, there is no way to do contact tracing. there are too many cases. there are only 3 ways once there is widespread community spread:

1. total quarantine (Chinese approach).
2. allow virus to spread in the population freely and hope it's not too lethal (UK/Brazil approach).
3. allow virus to spread in the population a small bit at a time and quarantine the rest (US approach).

Only 1. avoids mass death. 2. is the most brutal. 3. is a compromise strategy when 1 is not feasible but still results in large amounts of death.

At first, everyone wants the number 2 kind of approach.

Then if the thing doesn't go well... the media and other countries are starting to complain, then the number 3 is the solution.

After everything is going so wrong, the only option left is number 1.


And then someone will complain, why don't we use the number 1 option while it's still at the beginning, while the death toll was still low?

Well... I don't know.
 
S Korean example could have been used by others if they had the infrastructure setup for it
I think you are misunderstanding the Korean approach, their numbers are rising by aroung 80 to 100 daily, slowly but still rising, there are restrictions in Korea just less than a total lockdown, their situation is like China now. However China had to go drastic to reduce the big number in hubei

No I meant before community transmissions happen.
Europe and US had that window in January.

Your point 2. is not correct as UK government is currently following the "Suppression" model. They wanted to try as you suggested but got frightened when a computer simulation predicted 500,000 deaths.
Bro, UK was the first idiot to suggest 'herd immumity' and practically didn't test much and let it spread, I guess Boris is living proof of this concept. Lol. Pray he doesn't die
 
Chinese method is not the only one that has proven to be effective - look at S Korea as an example where life pretty much carried on as normal.

S Korean example could have been used by others if they had the infrastructure setup for it

I do think SK's example is feasible for most other countries and sustainable as well. They managed to stop an exponential growth without a complete lockdown but with mass testing and contact tracing. Taiwan is doing well too.
 
Chinese method is not the only one that has proven to be effective - look at S Korea as an example where life pretty much carried on as normal.

China case and South Korea case pretty much the same.


China has two methods to fight coronavirus.

It all depends on the situation.

But most people just recognize the Wuhan lockdown way, because it's too famous.


The first method is the lockdown.

Because you don't know how much people get infected in this area, which is impossible to track.

The only solution is to limit people's mobility, aka lockdown, to prevent people to move to other places because of panic of the outbreak. One of the runnings away people could be already infected.

And then medical personnel visiting people's houses one by one for the test.

This is very crucial to find infected people as fast as possible because no one wants to be locked down forever.


The other method is similar to South Korea, which is being practiced by other cities beside Wuhan.

Which is social distancing is being practiced by the population.

While at the same time hunting and tracing the known infected people for their past mobility.

To where he had gone and interacted with whom.
 
China case and South Korea case pretty much the same.


China has two methods to fight coronavirus.

It all depends on the situation.

But most people just recognize the Wuhan lockdown way, because it's too famous.


The first method is the lockdown.

Because you don't know how much people get infected in this area, which is impossible to track.

The only solution is to limit people's mobility, aka lockdown, to prevent people to move to other places because of panic of the outbreak. One of the runnings away people could be already infected.

And then medical personnel visiting people's houses one by one for the test.

This is very crucial to find infected people as fast as possible because no one wants to be locked down forever.


The other method is similar to South Korea, which is being practiced by other cities beside Wuhan.

Which is social distancing is being practiced by the population.

While at the same time hunting and tracing the known infected people for their past mobility.

To where he had gone and interacted with whom.


Excellent and concise explanation.

:cheers:
 
they had contact tracing because the disease appeared in isolated single cases.

China did not have that luxury because we had to discover a new virus with flu symptoms in the middle of flu season within 3 weeks. the only way to do it was discover virus, discover transmission mechanism, then quarantine.

This proves that Chinese CDC is the premier disease fighting organization on planet Earth.

Absolutely. All credit to China and its leadership for hitting this virus HARD with everything they in their arsenal.
China was the frontline in this battle and they stood tall.
 
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