This chart shows how bad things are for Apple and Samsung in the Chinese smartphone market

[jhungary]

wrong. duel camera phones trend actually started in china by huawei. htc and lg made em too at the time, but nowhere as popular as huawei P9 leica that sold millions. the thin bezel phones also started in china by xiaomi, mi mix. sharp made 'em first years ago, but nobody gives a sh1t. the mi mix on the other hand sold out in seconds. now, samsung, lg and apple are me too.. lol

First of all, it's Dual not Duel, and second of all, Dual Camera Phone is not yet at the trend here, not too many phone are Dual Camera, they may want to break into the trend but this is YET TO BE SEEN.

And then we are talking about the properties of a mobile phone, not functionality of a mobile phone. A better camera will help sell a phone for a period of time, but the quality of camera usually does not related to the general trend of which phones is popular. The accessibility and the capability does.

Not many people using their phone care about their camera, only a small part of them care about their camera (like Selfie-Whore) actually care about having a Dual Camera Phone, and we can see from the sale figure, Dual Cam Phone does not really ever outsell Single Camera Phone in the market since 2015, in fact, I think if you put all Dual Camera Phone sale since 2015 together (G5, Mate 9, P9s and P10s and so on) , it still being outsold by IPhone. I would say Dual Camera is more like a gadget rather than an actual trend, people will buy a smartphone because of the apps rather then buying an old flip phones, that's a trend, but I don't think many would buy a phone just because it have two camera on the back. If I want to shoot picture with a good camera, I would probably go get a DSLR.

 

[qwerrty]

First of all, it's Dual not Duel, and second of all, Dual Camera Phone is not yet at the trend here, not too many phone are Dual Camera, they may want to break into the trend but this is YET TO BE SEEN.

And then we are talking about the properties of a mobile phone, not functionality of a mobile phone. A better camera will help sell a phone for a period of time, but the quality of camera usually does not related to the general trend of which phones is popular. The accessibility and the capability does.

Not many people using their phone care about their camera, only a small part of them care about their camera (like Selfie-Whore) actually care about having a Dual Camera Phone, and we can see from the sale figure, Dual Cam Phone does not really ever outsell Single Camera Phone in the market since 2015, in fact, I think if you put all Dual Camera Phone sale since 2015 together (G5, Mate 9, P9s and P10s and so on), it still being outsold by IPhone. I would say Dual Camera is more like a gadget rather than an actual trend, people will buy a smartphone because of the apps rather then buying an old flip phones, that's a trend, but I don't think many would buy a phone just because it have two camera on the back. If I want to shoot picture with a good camera, I would probably go get a DSLR.

that's why iphone 7 plus with dual cam out selling iphone 7 with single cam and google's pixel 2 and samsung next galaxy note will have daul camera too.

 

[cirr]

what is huwaei best phone right now can someone post the link

Wait for Mate 10 which is due for release this autumn

If the following news is true, then days of Apple as the 2nd largest smartphone brand by volume are truly numbered

How Huawei May Have Finally Cracked the U.S. Phone Market

Aaron Pressman

Aug 05, 2017

AT&T to sell its flagship phones here, marking its first deal with a U.S. carrier.

For several months, AT&T has been testing Huawei's phones and its proprietary Kirin mobile phone chip set for use on AT&T’s network. Now a tentative deal is in place for AT&T to sell Huawei's flagship phones in its wireless stores directly to customers in the first half of 2018, the tech news site The Information reported on Friday.


Huawei had less than a 1% share of global mobile phone sales five years ago, but by last year, built itself into the third-largest seller overall by capturing 10% of the market and trailing only Apple and Samsung. But most of the gains so far have been in its home market of China and other developing nations. Richard Yu, who heads the company’s consumer electronics unit, has toldFortune that he’s aiming to pass Apple (AAPL, +0.64%) and its 15% share sometime next year.

To crack the U.S. market, Huawei has been offering higher end models with premium features like Leica cameras. But when it introduced its new flagship, the P10, in Barcelona in February, it didn’t have anything to say about when it would be available in the U.S. A mid-tier model, the Mate 9, is not sold by carriers but unlocked in the U.S. on sites like Amazon (AMZN, -0.79%) and Best Buy (BBY, -0.67%), and backed by ads starring actor and former Apple Mac pitchman Justin Long.

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Huawei declined to comment on the AT&T rumor, but said: "In the U.S. market, we are focused on the open channel, where our flagship products including the Mate 9, Matebook X, MediaPad and Watch 2, have received very positive feedback."

AT&T declined to comment.

Huawei's mostly-online, unlocked effort hasn’t produced anywhere near the volume of sales that it needs to overtake Apple. An earlier plan to make Nexus phones for Google (GOOGL, -0.44%) ran aground when sales failed to take off. Then on the latest Pixel line, Google didn’t want Huawei’s brand to appear on the devices, prompting Huawei to drop the project.

Adding AT&T would be "kind of a big deal," notes analyst Jan Dawson, chief analyst of Jackdaw Research. "Between this and the availability of the Motorola Z2 Force on all four major carriers, we’re potentially entering the first real phase of expansion in the US smartphone lineups offered by major carriers in quite some time, following a period of simplification and focus," he writes in a research note about the deal.

 

[jhungary]

that's why iphone 7 plus with dual cam out selling iphone 7 with single cam and google's pixel 2 and samsung next galaxy note will have daul camera too.

Again, this is a feature, not a trend, it's like Curve Screen in Samsung Edge and optical Zoom Lens, these are not the reason why phone migrate to another generation. These are gadget that good to have, but would not dictate the market.

The trend is why people go from the Brick to Flip phone, why from Flip Phone to smart phone, this is the trend, which required by what many people needed, I can raise 100 other example on how feature coming from the west, for example, when I brought my first cell phone, I look at how long the battery is going to last and how much talk time I can get from one charge, that is the sole reason why Nokia 3310 can be sold more than 200 millions headset. Today, the trend have move on, i want my phone to be able to entertain me, I can go online or even shop on line, talk time and battery is my third or fourth concern. And at the end of the day, it changes, and the world changes with it.