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Your rant addresses none of the points I made in posts 22 and 27 - what's the relevance of Aurangzeb or 1971 to India's illegal invasion and occupation of Junagadh, or to my general argument attempting to establish context for the actions of the Pakistani leadership in 1947? Even the isolated atrocities alleged to have been committed by the Tribals intervening in Kashmirto are and irrelevant point, because they were actions on the part of a few without Pakistani government sanction, and occurred when the actual policy decisions of taking an aggressive and offensive stance on Kashmir to protect Pakistan had already been made.
The central theme of my posts on this thread has been one of providing context and background for the decisions Pakistani leaders made in 1947, utilizing the OP as a starting point.
Perhaps you should take time out to actually comprehend the content of the posts you reply to, instead of blindly regurgitating the oh so predictable Indian rants about 'Muslim invaders, atrocities by the Tribals in Kashmir that grow by leaps and bounds with no actual evidentiary support each time they get told and of course the evergreen 'Tales of Pakistani Monsters in East Pakistan from 1971'.
It's like the Indian Establishment handed out a 'playbook' to people like you called,
'What to do when you have no response for a Pakistani's arguments: Pick one or more from the following - no need to be concerned bout their relevance to the discussion:
1. Muslim invaders who were uncivilized barbarians invaded and destroyed India
2. Tribal invaders raped and pillaged and burned a path of destruction through Kashmir in 1947
3. In 1971 Pakistani Monsters raped and killed millions and millions of people
4. Pakistan and Pakistanis are a failure on the world stage"
It is my personal opinion that both Pakistanis and Indians would do well to remember that neither of them are saints. Both of us did what we could to defend our interests and safeguard our core territories against any future vulnerabilities in those fateful days of 1947 - 1950. The difference was in the degrees.
Post 1950 barring the debacle of 1971 which was a own goal by Pakistanis rather than some genius master-plan by the Indians no country is in a position to change the maps of the region significantly. Pakistan is never going to commit that mistakes of 1971 again.
It would save a lot of heartburn, money and precious of lives of our soldiers if we can accept this reality and move on. I realize Pakistan would always have a soft spot for Indian Kashmiris but unfortunately can't do anything for them so it is better to stop feeding the flames and as for Indians we have to accept that Pakistan Kashmiris are perfectly happy on that side and want nothing to do with us.
The sad part is the government and people on both sides realize and have mostly accepted what I have just said above but Pride, Ego and Emotions all useless things in my opinion is making them turn an blind eye to reality.
India and Pakistan as allies could have been a force to reckon with economically with our immense human capital and S. Asia a region rivaling East Asia and EU but in reality due to Kashmir which we can do nothing about as both sides have nukes, we spend billions of tools of war while our poor starve.
Those hoping for any other solution except converting LOC to IB should wake up. Ain't gonna happen, any more would get the loosing side's leaders crucified, drawn and quartered.
P.S. Nothing to do with your post, but just a point I think needs to made again and again.
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