These Weapons Could Be China's Most Threatening Military Advancement For The US

[Lord ZeN]

China is in the midst of a major military buildup that includes fifth-generation planes, prototypes for hypersonic missiles, and ballistic missile submarines.


But the real threat to the US from China comes from its anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCM), Lyle J. Goldstein writes for the National Interest.

Goldstein, an associate professor in the China Maritime Studies Institute at the US Naval War College, cites Chinese military analysis that showcases how Beijing has massively upgraded its ability to carry out aerial strikes against maritime targets due to a combination of updated planes and two new models of cruise missile.

"The first [cruise missile] is the Mach 3 YJ-12. This supersonic ASCM is capable of ranges up to 300 km," Goldstein notes. "The second is a sub-sonic ASCM with a range of up to 800 km that is designated as YJ-100. Such capabilities imply that, as least for the near future, US forces may be 'outgunned' by China's emerging ASCM inventory."

Beijing is also set to continue testing ASCMs that would be capable of going up to Mach 6, Goldstein writes, based on Chinese military sources. This combination of speed and increased range would allow China to project its power deep into the South China Sea and towards Japan.

Ultimately, the ASCMs would allow China to build an aerial maritime strike force that could control all of the maritime territory surrounding China. Enemy vessels could quickly be sunk by the Chinese military and Beijing would be able to counter the US's naval presence in the region if the two ever came to blows.

China's land-based aircraft will be outfitted with the ASCMs.


There's recent evidence that Beijing may believe that its new capabilities will allow it to take a more aggressive stance in the region's territorial disputes.

Recent satellite photos show that China has militarized an island 186 miles northwest of the Senkakus, an island chain claimed by Japan and believed to contain vast deposits of natural gas, as well as high-value fisheries. The island has at least 10 helicopter landing pads which would hypothetically allow for an assault on the Senkakus.

Japan has also said it is scrambling planes at record rates so far to intercept a combination of Russian and Chinese warplanes that fly in or near its airspace

These Weapons Could Be China's Most Threatening Military Advancement For The US | Business Insider India

 

[Khalid Newazi]

The real threat to the US comes from Anti-Ship Ballistic Missiles (ASBM and Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) such as DF-21, DF-31 and DF-41. Missiles are more cheaper than jets and they have more range than them too. China could target US, military bases even before their planes get off the ground and most of their missiles can counter missile interceptors.

 

[Superboy]

The first [cruise missile] is the Mach 3 YJ-12.

YJ-12 is over Mach 4. As usual, US intelligence is one of the worst in the whole wide world.

 

[Dr Gupta]

The real threat to the US comes from Anti-Ship Ballistic Missiles (ASBM and Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) such as DF-21, DF-31 and DF-41. Missiles are more cheaper than jets and they have more range than them too. China could target US, military bases even before their planes get off the ground and most of their missiles can counter missile interceptors.

overrated it is not easy to target a US aircraft carrier like that

 

[jhungary]

Indeed, the US Navy should now disarm themselves and surrender to the Chinese Missile. in fact, the world's navy should surrender themselves to the Chinese to avoid getting hit by DF-Whatever before they left port.

The invention of Anti-ship missile have make all ship redundant.

Is it what this is about??

 

[Dr Gupta]

the Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) has no reliable way of actually targeting U.S. carrier task forces when they are at sea. No matter how accurate the new missile's guidance system may be, Chinese military commanders need to know where to aim it -- especially since a near miss with a conventional warhead has pretty much the same military value as missing by a hundred miles. So how exactly is the PLA supposed to find U.S. carriers, when they are constantly moving and actively excluding hostile forces from their immediate vicinity?

The answer is that it can't. "Four and a half acres of sovereign U.S. territory" -- the way carrier proponents often describe flattops -- may sound like a huge target, but in fact it is a mere speck in the vast expanses of the Western Pacific. For example, the modestly-sized South China Sea that Beijing keeps trying to claim for itself contains over a million square miles of water, in which a carrier can easily hide. And that's only a small part of the East Asia littoral. I calculated a decade ago that to acquire continuous target-quality information for the entire South China Sea, the PLA would need over a hundred low-earth-orbit reconnaissance satellites moving in three parallel tracks. At the moment, China only has a handful of such satellites, and as a result most of the time its overhead sensors aren't anywhere near areas of interest. It also has over-the-horizon radars and roaming submarines, plus a fleet of reconnaissance aircraft, but these do not add up to the seamless targeting network the PLA would need to track and attack a U.S. carrier.

Some people will believe anything

 

[gambit]

the Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) has no reliable way of actually targeting U.S. carrier task forces when they are at sea. No matter how accurate the new missile's guidance system may be, Chinese military commanders need to know where to aim it -- especially since a near miss with a conventional warhead has pretty much the same military value as missing by a hundred miles. So how exactly is the PLA supposed to find U.S. carriers, when they are constantly moving and actively excluding hostile forces from their immediate vicinity?

The answer is that it can't. "Four and a half acres of sovereign U.S. territory" -- the way carrier proponents often describe flattops -- may sound like a huge target, but in fact it is a mere speck in the vast expanses of the Western Pacific. For example, the modestly-sized South China Sea that Beijing keeps trying to claim for itself contains over a million square miles of water, in which a carrier can easily hide. And that's only a small part of the East Asia littoral. I calculated a decade ago that to acquire continuous target-quality information for the entire South China Sea, the PLA would need over a hundred low-earth-orbit reconnaissance satellites moving in three parallel tracks. At the moment, China only has a handful of such satellites, and as a result most of the time its overhead sensors aren't anywhere near areas of interest. It also has over-the-horizon radars and roaming submarines, plus a fleet of reconnaissance aircraft, but these do not add up to the seamless targeting network the PLA would need to track and attack a U.S. carrier.

Some people will believe anything

According to the Chinese here, since China is able to manufacture millions of cars every yr, building hundreds of small satellites to cover the SCS would child's play.

 

[opruh]

Indeed, the US Navy should now disarm themselves and surrender to the Chinese Missile. in fact, the world's navy should surrender themselves to the Chinese to avoid getting hit by DF-Whatever before they left port.

The invention of Anti-ship missile have make all ship redundant.

Is it what this is about??

Hhmmm, I can smell your strong fear to a growing China.

 

[Steakhouse]

According to the Chinese here, since China is able to manufacture millions of cars every yr, building hundreds of small satellites to cover the SCS would child's play.

Yea China already already place the navigation satellites cover the whole Asia, of course China can easily place satellites cover the whole SCS like child play in the playground, what so extraordinary for China to launch a satellite to expand the SCS coverage?

Even Google can use the navigation system to pin point Laoning operated in the SCS during Laoning sea trail operation.

 

[gambit]

Yea China already already place the navigation satellites cover the whole Asia, of course China can easily place satellites cover the whole SCS like child play in the playground, what so extraordinary for China to launch a satellite to expand the SCS coverage?

Even Google can use the navigation system to pin point Laoning operated in the SCS during Laoning sea trail operation.

Really...???

What kind of orbit, geosync or LEO ? We are talking about sensor equipped satellites that must provide high resolution to find a ship in the middle of millions of sq km and must be in constant communication with ground controllers and that mean no lapse of coverage. Navigation signals are nothing like radar or optics sensors whose data are high storage demand and are constantly changing.

Yeah...It is so easy to build, plan, and launch satellites.

Yours is the reason why the Chinese supporters are as equally laughable as the Chinese themselves.

 

[Keel]

Really...???

What kind of orbit, geosync or LEO ? We are talking about sensor equipped satellites that must provide high resolution to find a ship in the middle of millions of sq km and must be in constant communication with ground controllers and that mean no lapse of coverage. Navigation signals are nothing like radar or optics sensors whose data are high storage demand and are constantly changing.

Yeah...It is so easy to build, plan, and launch satellites.

Yours is the reason why the Chinese supporters are as equally laughable as the Chinese themselves.

Take this as an example

The "most advanced" radar couldnt detect an elementary missile test
What a shame for the american fanboys and experts wanna be.

lol why would I fear when I am Chinese? lol

I think vast majority of Chinese across China wont regard you as a Chinese at all if you reveal yourself like what you've been behaving and commenting on PDF

 

[j20blackdragon]

Keep in mind that this is a 2011 article.

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July 11, 2011 11:00 pm

China’s ‘eye-in-the-sky’ nears par with US

By Simon Rabinovitch in Beijing

China’s rapidly expanding satellite programme could alter power dynamics in Asia and reduce the US military’s scope for operations in the region, according to new research.

Chinese reconnaissance satellites can now monitor targets for up to six hours a day, the World Security Institute, a Washington think-tank, has concluded in a new report. The People’s Liberation Army, which could only manage three hours of daily coverage just 18 months ago, is now nearly on a par with the US military in its ability to monitor fixed targets, according to the findings.

“Starting from almost no live surveillance capability 10 years ago, today the PLA has likely equalled the US’s ability to observe targets from space for some real-time operations,” two of the institute’s China researchers, Eric Hagt and Matthew Durnin, write in the Journal of Strategic Studies.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cf83817a-abaa-11e0-8a64-00144feabdc0.html

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100 satellites by 2015

China aims to launch 100 satellites by 2015|Sci-Tech|chinadaily.com.cn

 

[Beidou2020]

American military is overrated. US got destroyed in the Korean War by the PLA.

China is by far the most powerful Asian military. No one is even close.

 

[sicsheep]

the Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) has no reliable way of actually targeting U.S. carrier task forces when they are at sea. No matter how accurate the new missile's guidance system may be, Chinese military commanders need to know where to aim it -- especially since a near miss with a conventional warhead has pretty much the same military value as missing by a hundred miles. So how exactly is the PLA supposed to find U.S. carriers, when they are constantly moving and actively excluding hostile forces from their immediate vicinity?

The answer is that it can't. "Four and a half acres of sovereign U.S. territory" -- the way carrier proponents often describe flattops -- may sound like a huge target, but in fact it is a mere speck in the vast expanses of the Western Pacific. For example, the modestly-sized South China Sea that Beijing keeps trying to claim for itself contains over a million square miles of water, in which a carrier can easily hide. And that's only a small part of the East Asia littoral. I calculated a decade ago that to acquire continuous target-quality information for the entire South China Sea, the PLA would need over a hundred low-earth-orbit reconnaissance satellites moving in three parallel tracks. At the moment, China only has a handful of such satellites, and as a result most of the time its overhead sensors aren't anywhere near areas of interest. It also has over-the-horizon radars and roaming submarines, plus a fleet of reconnaissance aircraft, but these do not add up to the seamless targeting network the PLA would need to track and attack a U.S. carrier.

Some people will believe anything

Missile does not have to be accurate, some sources say the warhead is based on tech similar to SADARM smart-submunitions. when launched in salvos, they can cover a large area, the munition it self does not have to have a huge payload to render a flight deck unusable.

or you can just assume PLA is dumping billions into something that doesn't work.

So how exactly is the PLA supposed to find U.S. carriers, when they are constantly moving and actively excluding hostile forces from their immediate vicinity?

satellites, AWACS, attack subs, OTH radar, or long range jets, any of these can detect a aircraft carrier, and to deter China, US has to place its carriers in range of the theater for its carrier borne aircraft, its not that hard to find....

 

[Dr Gupta]

Missile does not have to be accurate, some sources say the warhead is based on tech similar to SADARM smart-submunitions. when launched in salvos, they can cover a large area, the munition it self does not have to have a huge payload to render a flight deck unusable.

or you can just assume PLA is dumping billions into something that doesn't work.

So how exactly is the PLA supposed to find U.S. carriers, when they are constantly moving and actively excluding hostile forces from their immediate vicinity?

satellites, AWACS, attack subs, OTH radar, or long range jets, any of these can detect a aircraft carrier, and to deter China, US has to place its carriers in range of the theater for its carrier borne aircraft, its not that hard to find....

Ocean is a big place, look how hard it is to find a lost plane and countless hours it is not so simple as that