Theory: US behind the PS752 crash

[mangekyo]

1. Iran launches attack at US bases in Iraq

2. Boeing plane crashes. Probably EW, a cyber attack or least likely a paid agent that shot it down

3. Five independent wester intelligence sources says the plane had an engine malfunction. That it was not shot down. This is supporter by what eye witnesses say (The engine was on fire)

4. Boeing, a US military company requested the black boxes, they wanted 100% control over the black boxes.

5. Iran refused to give the black boxes and said it will cooperate with countries involved, but not with the US.

6. After Iran refused to hand over the black boxes to Boeing. US says they have "intelligence" the plane was shot down by Iranian ADS. This was why they wanted full control over the black boxes. To fake a report it was shot down.

7. Suddenly Ukraine wants to go to Iran and look for specifically a "Russian Missile" This is very specific. Iran also makes SAM, why look specifically for a "Russian Missile" ?

8. Shady twitter video shows up. Someone is filming a black sky for no reason, a missile hits the plane, the guy has 0 reaction. The video was shared by the Iranian opposition

9. Unknown twitter account sends a pic of a Russian missile to an analyst

10. Twitter account disappears

The facts we know:

1. IKIA is a busy airport. There were many other planes in the air around the area that took off about the same time as the Ukrainian, and they were flying at the same altitude.

2. The missiles that hit the US bases were fired from Tabriz, not from Tehran.
Tehran is not in the coast, why would a ADS operator think a plan suddenly would teleport inside Iran, right next to a IKIA airport. The ADS operator must have been used to planes flying around that location every day.

 

[Arian]

Since when engine malfunction implies cyber attack?!

 

[Dante80]

And the best part, Iran cant do anything anymore!

That is not really how this works though. Iranian authorities have both the two black boxes and all communication threads between the plane and the tower. It would be trivially easy to determine and prove that the airplane was not shot but came down due to a malfunction. And also, Iran would be able to do this completely transparently.

 

[mangekyo]

That is not really how this works though. Iranian authorities have both the two black boxes and all communication threads between the plane and the tower. It would be trivially easy to determine and prove that the airplane was not shot but came down due to a malfunction. And also, Iran would be able to do this completely transparently.

How? Black boxes are destroyed and the pilots didn't communicate with the tower

 

[Arian]

How? Black boxes are destroyed and the pilots didn't communicate with the tower

Absurd. They're going to open the blackbox soon.
I mean no offense, but your whole post is a load of nonsense.

 

[mangekyo]

Absurd. They're going to open the blackbox soon.
I mea no offense, but your whole post is a load of nonsense.

non taken.


The thing here is. All this "intelligence" UK and Canada is talking about, we know it comes from US. If Iran did not shoot the plane, that means they are lying. US already has lost some trust when it comes to intelligence after Iraq. Lying about this now, especially in such a time would absolutely destroy their credibility. On the other hand, if Iran shoots down a civilian plane, then lies about it and tries to cover up. It will demonize Iran and completely turn the whole Trump vs Iran thing upside down. I cant think of anything other than that this was a set up and we are being framed

 

[Philosopher]

My friend, what the hell is this? I expected these completely wrong analysis from some of these other members here, but you? I know you're emotional, but please don't resort to these sensational claims. I think it's best you delete this thread and discuss anything like this in the Iranians section in threads that already exist.

 

[Old School]

CIA benefitted a lot from Gen. Solaimani in the past. When General started to push independent and pro Iran policies, he was eliminated by CIA and their hidden Iranian insiders aka reformist axis.

 

[mangekyo]

My friend, what the hell is this? I expected these completely wrong analysis from some of these other members here, but you? I know you're emotional, but please don't resort to these sensational claims. I think it's best you delete this thread and discuss anything like this in the Iranians section in threads that already exist.

This whole situation doesn't make sense to me. Soleimanis death, the retaliation, now this.

CIA benefitted a lot from Gen. Solaimani in the past. When General started to push independent and pro Iran policies, he was eliminated by CIA and their hidden Iranian insiders aka reformist axis.

This has also been a theory of mine

 

[Philosopher]

This whole situation doesn't make sense to me. Soleimanis death, the retaliation, now this.

Bro, you're emotional right now like many other Iranians, which is obviously understandable. I suggest you let your mind settle first and then analyse.

 

[Oldman1]

Since when engine malfunction implies cyber attack?!

Yeah they are truly reaching on that part.

I can see why they want to cover it up. Think about it. You just show the world you can hit American bases with accuracy. Have the technology to do so. But at the same time you just shot down a civilian plane in the middle of your own country. So how would the world judge you on that? Incompetence? Can't tell whats enemy or what not? Even the U.S. has shot down a civilian passenger plane, but Iran would never dare do something the evil Americans have done.

 

[Arian]

Yeah they are truly reaching on that part.

I can see why they want to cover it up. Think about it. You just show the world you can hit American bases with accuracy. Have the technology to do so. But at the same time you just shot down a civilian plane in the middle of your own country. So how would the world judge you on that? Incompetence? Can't tell whats enemy or what not? Even the U.S. has shot down a civilian passenger plane, but Iran would never dare do something the evil Americans have done.

It depends on your definition of "the world". If by the world you mean citizens of the world, nobody would give a flying f*ck about it. People will forget about it 48 hours later as if it had never happened.

And the post itself is full of errors. It's still too early to reach a conclusion about what has happened.

 

[OCguy]

Anyone still pretending they haven't seen the evidence that isn't from the US, is either just in denial, or trying to shift reality by repeating nonsensical theories.

Nobody that I have seen discussing the mistake, as grave as it was, is bashing Iranian honor or competency. Not even Americans who have never met a war they didn't like.