The US is responsible for fomenting Jihadi culture

[SekrutYakhni]

"In Afghanistan, this is the problem, because everybody holds a piece of that mirror, and they all look at it and claim that they hold the entire truth."
Mohsen Makhmalbaf

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Hermann Goering

 

[TruthSeeker]

Famous words of Bijansky..On the record.

Bijansky said he called them "Soldiers of God" "to redouble the efforts" than proceeds
"We know of their deep belief in God And We are confident their struggle will succeed" Bijansky "That land over there is yours you go back to it one day because your fight will prevail and you'll have your home and mosques back again because your cause is right and God is on your side".

So? The USA wants Afghans to live in peace in Afghanistan with their homes and mosques. We don't want Afghans to allow al Qaeda or other nutcase international jihadis to have a sanctuary from which to launch attacks on us. It's not complicated. We did not and do not now foment "Jihadi"culture. That was something that the Afghans and Pakistanis handled, with great fervor and expertise, all by themselves. All hail strategic depth.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Now that you have nothing else to say to keep you afloat after proving to you us of a being the party to introduce Jihadi culture in afghanistan during soviet invasion and after that brought firestorm upon humanity till date. After 8 years of failure in afghanistan with 0% success rate, the destruction of Pakistan the members groups formed and spread to the rest of the world and you say its not complicated.

Afghanistan did not ask for your help in the first place during soviet invasion of afghanistan. your own senators and president wanted to come forward with your own specific regional agenda and created formed jihadi elements the birth of jihadi culture.
Wrong, america handled and provided with most training and weapons to jihadis in the first place don't put your slop on Pakistan. The expertise in using numerous different types of weapons and training and complete camps were all funded and formed by the help of america to afghan jihidis all by themselves. Pakistan helped with the us weapons logistics were provide through Pakistani territory.
All said and done don't be in denial the world knows it being scared like an ostrich won't solve your problems, Admit it.

 

[gambit]

The title of this thread is total flame bait. Jihadi culture is fomented by some Muslims, plain and simple. The USA is not responsible for this cancer in any way.

Of course this is a flame...errr...I mean blame bait. As long as the US is involved in any way, it is never the muslims' fault.

 

[Tiger Prowling]

Pasban mil gaya kaabay ko sanam khane say.

 

[Old School]

Most people probably do not have enough insight on the' Jihadi culture' and it's history. USA never invaded any country which was a respected country and made of democratic values. Instead , USA fought against the evil of the NAZI and the communists when the whole world laid back.
Many people do not like USA just because , USA can not simply allow some ill educated and pervert villagers to dictate the world order. USA is the only nation in the world which challenges the extortionist attitude of some third world gangsters who are terrorizing people at home and in the neighbourhood.

North Korea and Vietnam had much larger scale conflict with the USA but these Asians never turned in to worldwide suicide bombers unlike the Jihadists. Even the Japanese fanatics, NAZI/Fascist did not start terror campaign after loosing the Second World War.
Why then only global jihadists are doing this ? The answer is very hard to digest. There will still be jihadist on earth even if USA or Israel seize to exist. Jihadists are imperialist and they will always come up with new enemies. Before , it was the Frankish,Byzantium and now it is the USA.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Pure BS in your post, Evil of the NAZI you mean bomb the hell out of a country after the War ends, nuke whole cities to take revenge and you call it saving the world? Get lost with your BS comments go do some research. us is no Angel, I'll tag it up your forehead.

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

Well, I think people often misunderstand the situation of FATA. FATA is Pakistan's part (obviously) but one should not forget the tribal traditions and customs. Tribal people are largely influenced by their own way of living and frankly but fortunately, Pakistan is not prone of 'moral cleansing' as other empires did in the past. We had some problems in tribal regions but now we are overcoming the problems in an effective way. The U.S. was fully aware of tribal customs during Soviet era in Afghanistan.
I am a neutral reader whenever I read history. Religion had to be brought in during Afghan war because without it the will of people to fight could die. Nonetheless, Afghanis fought to defend their land and they are still fighting to defend their land.

American people are largely influenced by their media. So, is it an American dream to believe whatever they listen, eh?
The lawlessness of tribal regions have a solid background. And in my opinion, the root cause of it is the tribal traditions but I am not an expert. However, the best way to solve the crisis is to bring economic reforms along with solid educational system.

Kind of hard to have economic reform and education among religious fanatics that deny women education.

 

[Old School]

Kind of hard to have economic reform and education among religious fanatics that deny women education.

Tribalism , feudalism etc are not compatible with the present world order. There is no tribal elder in Lahore or in Karachi who dictates the terms and runs parallel judiciary. If this is their tradition , it is time to call it a day. Ignorance starts to take the form of solid confidence at some stage when the ignorance is not managed. People are living in the medieval era in these areas and sending their reps to bomb cities around the world while taking advantage of the liberal immigration policies of the west. Other group building fortune with the money from the west and using that money to spread malice against the West.

The way we can come and settle down in the West is impossible for a Westerner to do the same in our country. People will stone them to death. These lunatics talks about human right when it helps them to get asylum in the West but the same person forgets about human rights back in his own country. I see here in Britain where my fellow countrymen earning every penny to feed their family back home in Pakistan and spreading malice about Britain plus the West. Western money is sweeter and Westren people are bitter to them.
These are dangerous snakes and they do not deserve to be treated with mercy.