The truth about the overpriced and inferior Leopard 2 Tank

[senheiser]

seriously whats the hype about the leopard tank? was it ever used in any war? nope

Just like with any german products, people think they buy a product with quality trusting rather their brand but we all know german cars are inferior to korean cars when it comes to quality and price and the same it is with german weapons to russian weapons.

You maybe get 15% better quality but pay double-tripple the price

 

[p4kistan]

Just like with any german products, people think they buy a product with quality trusting rather their brand but we all know german cars are inferior to korean cars when it comes to quality and price and the same it is with german weapons to russian weapons.

You maybe get 15% better quality but pay double-tripple the price

You clearly contradict yourself.

1st point germans are inferior

2nd point you get 15% better quality.

Which is it? Comparing a bmw. merc, vag group vehicle to a kia or hyundai is ludicrous they are miles apart. Simple you can't f11ck with german engineering. In a battle a leapord a6 will destroy t90's

 

[senheiser]

You clearly contradict yourself.

1st point germans are inferior

2nd point you get 15% better quality.

Which is it? Comparing a bmw. merc, vag group vehicle to a kia or hyundai is ludicrous they are miles apart. Simple you can't f11ck with german engineering. In a battle a leapord a6 will destroy t90's

its inferior in a sense that it costs 2x or 3x more

 

[p4kistan]

its inferior in a sense that it costs 2x or 3x more

Just because something is more expensive does not make it inferior.

 

[Luftwaffe]

its inferior in a sense that it costs 2x or 3x more

How much...do you have chat to compare it with world latest Tanks and their different variants, do post it also.

 

[waz]

Who did the testing?
What software was used for the simulation?
Which "experts" did they speak to ? Seems all Russian to me.

The claims made in the video are bordering on the fantasy realm.

 

[Nike]

I am sure any second hand Leopard 2A4 vanilla in her prime is much better than the most modern T-90 variants the Russian army fielded today.

 

[Hakan]

This video discusses the capabilities of the Leopard 2 A4

Some Leopard 2 upgrades:

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Turkish Upgrade
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German
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[AUSTERLITZ]

Propaganda video.Leopard is indeed a beastly tank,no doubt about that.Brute Armour and that gun.Right now only k2 black panther and maybe m1a2 upg tank can be considered close or equal to it.Among future tanks maybe armata will surpass it.

 

[500]

Here the actual results achieved at Greek tank tender.

Daytime fire:

10 rounds from 2000 m stationary, 10 rounds from 2000 m while on move. 2.3 x 2.3 m target.

M1A2 - 17 hits out of 20
Leclerc- 20 hits out of 20
Leopard 2A5 - 19 hits out of 20
T-84 - 11 hits out of 20
T-80U - 11 hits out of 20

Night fire:

10 rounds from 1500 m stationary, 10 rounds from 1500 m while on move. 2.3 x 2.3 m target.

M1A2 - 20 hits out of 20
Leclerc- 19 hits out of 20
Leopard 2A5 - 20 hits out of 20
T-80U - 13 hits out of 20

Rate of fire:

Two 2.3x2.3 m targets at 1500 m.

M1A2 - 8 rounds a min
Leclerc- 9 rounds a min
Leopard 2A5 - 9 rounds a min
T-84 - 7 rounds a min
T-80U - 6 rounds a min

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Note, T-84 and T-80U use the same 1A45 FCS as T-90.

 

[Hakan]

Here the actual results achieved at Greek tank tender.

Daytime fire:

10 rounds from 2000 m stationary, 10 rounds from 2000 m while on move. 2.3 x 2.3 m target.

M1A2 - 17 hits out of 20
Leclerc- 20 hits out of 20
Leopard 2A5 - 19 hits out of 20
T-84 - 11 hits out of 20
T-80U - 11 hits out of 20

Night fire:

10 rounds from 1500 m stationary, 10 rounds from 1500 m while on move. 2.3 x 2.3 m target.

M1A2 - 20 hits our of 20
Leclerc- 19 hits out of 20
Leopard 2A5 - 20 hits out of 20
T-80U - 13 hits out of 20

Rate of fire:

Two 2.3x2.3 m targets at 1500 m.

M1A2 - 8 rounds a min
Leclerc- 9 rounds a min
Leopard 2A5 - 9 rounds a min
T-84 - 7 rounds a min
T-80U - 6 rounds a min

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Note, T-84 and T-80U use the same 1A45 FCS as T-90.

I believe the data but do you have a source?

 

[500]

I believe the data but do you have a source?

Отчет об участии Т-80У в тендере на поставку основного танка длявооруженных сил Греции

 

[Pakistanisage]

I agree that dollar for dollar, German equipment is way overpriced and performs below expectations as compared with the Russian Arsenal.

 

[Hakan]

So you can read Russian, ha, just like I said you're a Russian that doesn't belong in Palestine.

please bro not in this thread.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The Russian Army Commander wanted to buy Leopard IIs to replace the Russian tanks 3 years ago...

Does Russia need new tanks? - English pravda.ru