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Well these days companies are moving to VDI's so whether I'm using my MacBook Pro or my HP laptop doesn't really matter much. I do prefer my HP over my Macbook for work only because of the of the CTRL versus Command key and the added backspace/delete button combo. But for non-work I always use my MacBook Pro.
Man these VDIs I tell ya... It is a pain to onboard ppl and get anything of value out of it. Especially VDIs that share resources on a given hardware. Also as a previous engineer i don't like this restricted feeling... but thats just me.
 
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Lucid, Audi etron and other EVs are going to make life hard for Tesla. Elon musk is building Huge factories for future, without realizing that so many EV are in the pipeline (unlike today) and he might not have such demand for Tesla.
 
Lucid, Audi etron and other EVs are going to make life hard for Tesla. Elon musk is building Huge factories for future, without realizing that so many EV are in the pipeline (unlike today) and he might not have such demand for Tesla.
even in drag racing arena there is only one hyper car that beats tesla model s plaid and it costs 5 to 6 times more than model s. just saying...
 
even in drag racing arena there is only one hyper car that beats tesla model s plaid and it costs 5 to 6 times more than model s. just saying...
Ya, average driver isn’t drag racing. Lucid is pretty fast too. They call it Tesla nightmare. Audi with it premium touch and top of the line EV technology going to appeal more to famlies than average Tesla. Tesla need to drop price significantly to compete.
 
Ya, average driver isn’t drag racing. Lucid is pretty fast too. They call it Tesla nightmare. Audi with it premium touch and top of the line EV technology going to appeal more to famlies than average Tesla. Tesla need to drop price significantly to compete.
I agree there are tougher competition ahead for tesla i was just merely touching how far the gap in range and performance still. At this point we can just wait and see. It is good for consumers to have choices. I don't think Elon is all about profits and revenue. He is an innovator (spacex and all...)
 
I agree there are tougher competition ahead for tesla i was just merely touching how far the gap in range and performance still. At this point we can just wait and see. It is good for consumers to have choices. I don't think Elon is all about profits and revenue.

He is for his adventures. I have been tracking Tesla for 10+years and so far he hasn’t came up with affordable solutions for masses.
Considering what Model 3 and Model y offer it definitely targets larger cross section of the consumer. Also the more economy of scale he achieves the more cheaper solutions he can push out ( or atleast that is my hope)
 
Man these VDIs I tell ya... It is a pain to onboard ppl and get anything of value out of it. Especially VDIs that share resources on a given hardware. Also as a previous engineer i don't like this restricted feeling... but thats just me.

Helps with telecommuting. Plus everybody is running the correct versions of things.

i am from technology field and own both windows based and apple product. It is hardly ever the case with my macbook that i will something similar to blue screen(bsd). I see that few times when i push my windows computers. I gave my 6 year old macbook pro 15 to my daughter for her school. The experience on it has not changed yet from the time i bought it. My windows machine tend to get sluggish with time and the only way to fix it is to get some utility to continue keep my sectors arranged and contigous... Not sure of other ppl's experience I am just talking about mine.

@GumNaam I have a double masters in technology and have pretty much 360 degree experience from operator, practioner and leader in that arena. I am also (without disclosing) more than a director :D. Hopefully my opinion may hold some weight too.
Apples although no longer follow RISC architecture and have also fallen on the train of CISC based processors. The operating system alone makes it a better experience. If you have mostly worked with windows user experience Mac experience can indeed be a bit quirky ( i can admit to that)

My wife and kids use MacBooks because I don't need to be dealing with some silly bluescreen/setup type issue on their computers all the time.

Not one issue yet.
 
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OK you made a claim that a 90k Tesla can now be had for 45k.
Can you provide some evidence to that claim.
for all you tesla bhakts out there, a close friend just whatsapp'd this one to me asking for my opinion so I figured I'll share it with y' all who were going all apeshit over seeing the evidence:

oddly enough, this one is the model S and a mere 5 years ago, this same car was being sold for anywhere from $120k to a smidge over $130,000 after a few feature additions. if it lost a $100k off its value in merely 5 years and that too after only 22,000 miles then I'm sorry but there is something SERIOUSLY very fishy about this car and maybe even its company. an average car loan is for 5 years and its pretty obvious that the previous owner OBVIOUSLY chose to get rid of it after paying it off in the 5 years instead of keeping and enjoying it!

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as per this ^^^ article, its selling price tag when brand new was anywhere from $120k to over $130k (see screenshots under the links). Honestly, you'd might as well make it $140k to $150k after taxes, licenses, fees and all that jazz.

now if all you tesla bhakts like @Hamartia Antidote still feel comfortable in gambling your money away in buying these cars then hey, have at it, doesn't effect me or my pocket in the least bit. but I did my job by fairly warning you. y' all wanted "evidence", y' all got "evidence". now go enjoy your tesla. ;)
 
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for all you tesla bhakts out there, a close friend just whatsapp'd this one to me asking for my opinion so I figured I'll share it with y' all who were going all apeshit over seeing the evidence:

oddly enough, this one is the model S and a mere 5 years ago, this same car was being sold for anywhere from $120k to a smidge over $130,000 after a few feature additions. if it lost a $100k off its value in merely 5 years and that too after only 22,000 miles then I'm sorry but there is something SERIOUSLY very fishy about this car and maybe even its company. an average car loan is for 5 years and its pretty obvious that the previous owner OBVIOUSLY chose to get rid of it after paying it off in the 5 years instead of keeping and enjoying it!

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as per this ^^^ article, its selling price tag when brand new was anywhere from $120k to over $130k (see screenshots under the links). Honestly, you'd might as well make it $140k to $150k after taxes, licenses, fees and all that jazz.

now if all you tesla bhakts like @Hamartia Antidote still feel comfortable in gambling your money away in buying these cars then hey, have at it, doesn't effect me or my pocket in the least bit. but I did my job by fairly warning you. y' all wanted "evidence", y' all got "evidence". now go enjoy your tesla. ;)

First of all what is with the name calling? Let's be civil.
You found one outlier. Most probably was in an accident or had some serious work done it. Here are all Tesla S on Seattle/Craiglist. The one you picked is considerably less than rest So you need to ask why would a 22k miles car sell for almost 40% less than other similar year cars? Also, why would you buy a luxury car off Craigslist?

Here is list of all used Tesla Model S available on carfax. None 2014-2016 are available less than 60k

Opinions aside, Tesla has outsold all EV competition quarter after quarter and their valuation is more than the likes of Auto giants like VW, Toyot, GM et al.
 
for all you tesla bhakts out there, a close friend just whatsapp'd this one to me asking for my opinion so I figured I'll share it with y' all who were going all apeshit over seeing the evidence:

oddly enough, this one is the model S and a mere 5 years ago, this same car was being sold for anywhere from $120k to a smidge over $130,000 after a few feature additions. if it lost a $100k off its value in merely 5 years and that too after only 22,000 miles then I'm sorry but there is something SERIOUSLY very fishy about this car and maybe even its company. an average car loan is for 5 years and its pretty obvious that the previous owner OBVIOUSLY chose to get rid of it after paying it off in the 5 years instead of keeping and enjoying it!

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as per this ^^^ article, its selling price tag when brand new was anywhere from $120k to over $130k (see screenshots under the links). Honestly, you'd might as well make it $140k to $150k after taxes, licenses, fees and all that jazz.

now if all you tesla bhakts like @Hamartia Antidote still feel comfortable in gambling your money away in buying these cars then hey, have at it, doesn't effect me or my pocket in the least bit. but I did my job by fairly warning you. y' all wanted "evidence", y' all got "evidence". now go enjoy your tesla. ;)

Oh there's definitely something wrong with this car all right..the rolled back odometer


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Somebody rolled the odometer back to 50, sold it for $34,500..and then this seller put 21,952 miles on it and is trying to unload it for $32,100.



I know you can save a hunk of money by going for a used car but remember the old adage

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Lucid, Audi etron and other EVs are going to make life hard for Tesla. Elon musk is building Huge factories for future, without realizing that so many EV are in the pipeline (unlike today) and he might not have such demand for Tesla.


There is no competition. Teslas already won the EV race. There not even close to meeting demand.
 
Oh there's definitely something wrong with this car all right..the rolled back odometer


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Somebody rolled the odometer back to 50, sold it for $34,500..and then this seller put 21,952 miles on it and is trying to unload it for $32,100.



I know you can save a hunk of money by going for a used car but remember the old adage

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seems like a problem with teslas in general that they can easily be rolled back.
 
seems like a problem with teslas in general that they can easily be rolled back.

No, the guy in the video said when carmakers switched to digital odometers they actually made it far easier to roll them back causing rampant fraud in the used car market. All you need is a $300 machine you can easily buy online.
 
Tesla "Y" and SUV is going to face some real competition in 2022.


I like the 2023 Nissan Ariya - but has to be at least as good as the Leaf. If I pull the trigger, it will be late 2022 or early 2023 at least...and not buying the hyped up Teslas and paying a premium. Of course this is the daily driver, for special occasions it always has to be a luxury marque.

 

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