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The Taliban will ‘never be defeated’

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Personnely, i think Afgan talibans="Army of MAHADI" !;)
NO ONE CAN defeat THEM BY FORCE !:victory:

They can surely be defeated.The only thing needed by the allied force is the support of the locals.They need people who are well versed with the terrain.The rugged terrain is the only thing that protects the Taliban.
 
Certainly the U.S. helped support the Afghan resistance to Soviet occupation. But the U.S. had nothing to do with creating the Taliban.

I think at first the U.S. thought Taliban rule was beneficial, especially in the Kandahar region.

I don't think the U.S. made that promise at that time. Certainly we were working to do so before the Russians invaded - the irrigation canals U.S. Marines are fighting through in Marjah today were built with the assistance of U.S. engineers decades ago. Our Agency for International Development (USAID) can do much to build the infrastructure of third-world countries. Same with other international development agencies. But they first need order to operate, and America never promised to provide that.

Read the links. :whistle:

On the contrary Solomon...........the US is the one who created this whole new ideology of Jihad using Abdullah Azzam who was OBL mentor.......todays world in this region of of your making.......the name is Taliban, heck, they could have called themselves anything but the US is the one who bought back this ideology to defeat the Soviets, for the vengeance of Vietnam.........forgetting that it has already cost 1.5 million Afghan lives during the Soviet invasion, the jury is still out for this WoT which God knows how many lives it is going to take......

Had the US not created this Johad strategy to rally support from Muslims, which had died out after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, yet the US found it a useful tool for itself to revive such feelings, which we are now seeing the results of.

The came and went leaving an absolute mess in Afghanistan, and leaving Pakistan to deal with this neighbour..........clearly Pakistan does not want unrest in its neighbouring country as this means problems for Pakistan. ie refugees, terror etc etc etc, which by the way we didn;t see the US take in as refugees in its country.

So clearly they are going to try and stabilise the country by whatever is the easiest and practical route, here comes the Taliban, who by the way bought PEACE. Something not seen for decades and near enough eradicated Opium production which has now sprung back up again........Need I continue
 
taliban are terrorists and history has shown that terrorists never succeed. Even if there is no ISAF or NATO these terrorists would have been slaughtered one day by their own people.


Bro do you know what are you saying ?!!
If you are talking about TTP ,i agree but if it's about afgans talibans, you are doing a big mistake!
Just tell me why afgan talibans are terroristes?
 
They can surely be defeated.The only thing needed by the allied force is the support of the locals.They need people who are well versed with the terrain.The rugged terrain is the only thing that protects the Taliban.

:rofl: evry local afgani=freedome fighter=taliban how they can help you to defeat them! :rofl:
 
This is dangerous talk, please refrain from it. Are you aware of the consequences of such a claim..........by God, every youth, everywhere will join them....it is compulsory upon every able bodied person to join them.........there has to be a religious body that makes this sort of claim..

Bro perhaps you don't know,but army of MAHADI will rise from KHORASAN=actuel afganistan!;) khorasan=afganistan,pakistani paktoun belt,north EST of iran.....but the epicentre is afganistan!
source(hadith)
 
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Thausand of years of old traditions could not be changed in five years of Talaban rule , minimum time to built a nation is 13 -23 years .

And besides, when Taliban ruled Afghanistan, America and its allies imposed sanctions on Afghanistan cutting off all resources to the landlocked country!

So basically it doesn't make sense that you cut off resources of a nation, and them afterward blame Taliban for the poverty, human rights violations and hunger of the Afghan people!

How do you expect someone to build schools and hospitals if you take away their tools, and skilled workers?

Maybe if the world had given Taliban a chance and in stead of imposing sanctions on them, helped them build their nation we could have seen a much better and stable Afghanistan today!

But i guess America was too much worried about its own national interest and didn't give a d@mn about the innocent Afghan lives!
 
Bro perhaps you don't know,but amry of MAHADI will rise from KHORASAN=zctuel afganistan!;) khorasan=afganistan,pakistani paktoun belt,north EST of iran.....but the epicentre is afganistan!
source(hadith)

No... i'm pretty sure it was Syria. :confused:
 
And besides, when Taliban ruled Afghanistan, America and its allies imposed sanctions on Afghanistan cutting off all resources to the landlocked country!

So basically it doesn't make sense that you cut off resources of a nation, and them afterward blame Taliban for the poverty, human rights violations and hunger of the Afghan people!

How do you expect someone to build schools and hospitals if you take away their tools, and skilled workers?

Maybe if the world had given Taliban a chance and in stead of imposing sanctions on them, helped them build their nation we could have seen a much better and stable Afghanistan today!

But i guess America was too much worried about its own national interest and didn't give a d@mn about the innocent Afghan lives!

The Taliban made a lot of money buy selling opium in the western countries.They controlled all opium fields especially the larger ones in the helmand province.besides they were constantly funded by sheikhs in the Middle East particularly Saudi Arabia.They had lots of money enough to bulid schools hospitals etc..
 
Muslims who have been drinking Blood & who never did anything good for the people of their own country, They don't deserve to be called Muslims & Taliban are band of Blood & power Hungry Idiots who are using Religion as a weapon

Taliban fighting for Pakistan ain't a stupid joke then what is it?

EmoGirl - Look at it from the Afghan Talibans POV. The US has declared war on them and invaded their country. Palistan has provided them with Intell, airspace, base of operatons and many other things.......THEIR families has been killed. Don't you think they have a right to come after Pakistan now...........???????????
 
The Taliban made a lot of money buy selling opium in the western countries.They controlled all opium fields especially the larger ones in the helmand province.

:rofl: your kidding right? Do you know who brought opium production to a halt in the history of Afghanistan? Taliban did, and no one else! In fact, do you know how many people internationally lost their jobs due to the Taliban bringing an end to narcotics trade in Afghanistan? Millions of people all over the world in, including in the FBI and CIA lost their jobs because they weren't needed anymore and this took a big toll on the organizations of many countries that used illegal narcotics as a way to gain influence and money in poor nations. So basically this angered many people in Moscow, Washington, Beijing, and god knows where else! 76% (that's a lot) of the worlds opium came from Afghanistan before Taliban rule!

They had lots of money enough to bulid schools hospitals etc..


Even Hamas has a lot of money, but the problems is how are they supposed to spend it when they can't buy anything?

Like i said before, when you don't have skilled workers you can't build anything!

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which would automatically align them with Pakistan over India.

Trust me that would remain pakistan's dream. Afghanistan has got its ethnic problems no question about it and so does Pakistan(we see all sort of sectarian and ethnic conflict in paksitan), but no matter what ethnic group we talk in Afghanistan, they have got one common thing among themselves and that is negative opinion about pakistan. Go to afghani sites, they fight with each other over pitty things, but they all heavily criticize(using nice word here) pakistan no matter who they are.
 
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If Afghans are not supporting then , from where they are getting man power from nepal or bangladesh:lol:

If ttp isnt getting manpower support from the local people and tribes then where did they come from? from Iran or China?
 
How do you expect someone to build schools and hospitals if you take away their tools, and skilled workers?

they didnt have to build new schools, all they needed to do was letting the existing schools to open and operate. they closed every single of the girls' schools in their areas of control, they shut down the TV channel. people had to establish underground school girls, as if sending your daughter to school was a crime and they were doing it in hiden.
 
they didnt have to build new schools, all they needed to do was letting the existing schools to open and operate. they closed every single of the girls' schools in their areas of control, they shut down the TV channel. people had to establish underground school girls, as if sending your daughter to school was a crime and they were doing it in hiden.

BS, who told you this?

lol, who's going to teach the children in the school?

After the Afghan soviet war and the bloody civil war that followed, there was not even a teacher left in Afghanistan, they were all either killed by the Soviets or the criminal warlords, Afghanistan didn't even have a single standing hospital!

It wasn't the Taliban's fault that America (after using the Afghans for their own interest) abandoned Afghanistan for more than a decade! The Taliban was a reaction to the horrible things taking place in Afghanistan during the civil war!

If America cared they would have helped Afghans right after the d@mn Afghan Soviet war!

But instead they were busy celebrating in Washington drinking Champagne!


Do you know what a former Pakistani ISI agent said to the American congressman Charlie Wilson?


Below is colonel Imam's conversation with Charlie Wilson:

"The last time he saw Wilson was after the 1988 Geneva accords on the Soviet withdrawal. Imam told him: “You’re abandoning the Afghans. They need financial support for rehabilitation.” Wilson replied: “Dollars don’t grow on trees.” “Do Afghan youth grow on trees?” asked Imam. “Over 1.5m Afghans have died.”


Even now, if you think America is working to help you then your mistaken!

And the only d@mn country that always helped you Afghans was and still is Pakistan! India never gave a cr@p about you, they helped the soviets occupy Afghanistan, and even today they want NATO and America to stay just so they can USE (Their USING you) Afghanistan against Pakistan!

And even if we did support Taliban, we had no choice, its not like we had another option open to us, America abandoned us along with the mess in your country, so if anyone you should be hating then its America, NOT Pakistan so you need to get your mind straight and keep your hate for Pakistan off this forum!

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