The Taliban will ‘never be defeated’

[waraich66]

Talibans can only be defeated in by brutal massacre which is i highly support.There should be no human rights applied on Taliban.When you capture, Kill them by pumping oil into their blood nerves and then burn their nerves..This show should be shown to couple dozen Talibans and slowly they will start loosing.Talibans are very very arrogant.It is because of the arrogance they got kicked in 2001.They thought no body could touch them but they got their ***** handed to them by ISAF.If push comes to shove US Army alone (Let Alone NATO) can take care of talibans.They would just have to deploy 200 to 300k troops and more air force.I hope they do.

defeat of talaban is your dream nothing else

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Read history of Britishers invaders , US is using same techniques .

Infact two civilizations (muslim &capitalism) are at clash in Afghanistan.

Stupid jokes become reality after ISAF defeat in Afghanistan soon

Muslims who have been drinking Blood & who never did anything good for the people of their own country, They don't deserve to be called Muslims & Taliban are band of Blood & power Hungry Idiots who are using Religion as a weapon

Taliban fighting for Pakistan ain't a stupid joke then what is it?

 

[FreekiN]

Fight the Kaffir with the Kaffir's weapons.

Ironic eh?

 

[waraich66]

I believe the Taliban lost all reason to exist after the soviets left Afghanistan, they are denying the death of their ideology by finding new reasons to support there existence...........Fighting Pakistan is one such reason even though Pakistan trained them and armed them along with the US during the soviet occupation of Afghanistan...............but looking at the thrashing they received by the hands of our forces, i can conclusively say that: Indeed, billi sher ki khala hai !!!!!!!

Afghan talaban have support of local tribes , dont mix them with TTP , AT are loyal to Pakistan and remain.

 

[Icarus]

Afghan talaban have support of local tribes , dont mix them with TTP , AT are loyal to Pakistan and remain.

My friend, I have yet to meet a single afghan who supports the taliban over ISAF.
As for the local tribes, except those of Orakzai, none wish to have anything to do with the Taliban as they brutally murdered about 550 of their tribal elders, the orakzai guys don't like em either but being under their occupation, there isn't much they can do...............

 

[Solomon2]

I believe the Taliban lost all reason to exist after the soviets left Afghanistan -

Kakgeta, you need a little more schooling here. Even the Taliban themselves admit they had nothing to do with kicking the Soviets out of Afghanistan. They told the U.S. they only decided to get involved in politics afterward, in order "to form a strong, effective government, which could control its borders, prevent outside interference, and provide security to the people." link

 

[Icarus]

Kakgeta, you need a little more schooling here. Even the Taliban themselves admit they had nothing to do with kicking the Soviets out of Afghanistan. They told the U.S. they only decided to get involved in politics afterward, in order "to form a strong, effective government, which could control its borders, prevent outside interference, and provide security to the people." link

I'm kinda lost, could you please expand on your statement ? I mean do you wish to rebut my statement or are you adding to it ?

 

[waraich66]

Muslims who have been drinking Blood & who never did anything good for the people of their own country, They don't deserve to be called Muslims & Taliban are band of Blood & power Hungry Idiots who are using Religion as a weapon

Taliban fighting for Pakistan ain't a stupid joke then what is it?

Real target of US is Pakistan not Afghanistan , ISAF underetimated Talaban but now they are realizing depth of waters.

Defeat of US will be in favour of Pakistan and China .US invaded in Afghanistan to get safe passage of oil pipe lines from central asia , which was refused by Talaban.

Karzai was employee of same US oil company wanted to deal with Talaban for oil pipe line from central asias oil rich states.

Better read about big game of US in central asia to understand their war strategies.US is not fool to spend 70 Billion USD per year only to catch OBL

 

[waraich66]

My friend, I have yet to meet a single afghan who supports the taliban over ISAF.
As for the local tribes, except those of Orakzai, none wish to have anything to do with the Taliban as they brutally murdered about 550 of their tribal elders, the orakzai guys don't like em either but being under their occupation, there isn't much they can do...............

If Afghans are not supporting then , from where they are getting man power from nepal or bangladesh

 

[Solomon2]

It is a rebuttal. The Taliban movement was to rule Afghanistan, replacing the disorderly armed factions that remained after the Russians withdrew. The Taliban's active support came from Pakistan. Though the Taliban later co-opted some of the former resistance into its ranks, its direction was always from the top - from Mullah Omar - and was administered with the aid of Pakistan. link

 

[Icarus]

If Afghans are not supporting then , from where they are getting man power from nepal or bangladesh

You are talking like they number in the millions, of course there are bound to be an odd few individuals who support them, you do, i bet a few others do too, but the majority of us want them exterminated.

 

[Icarus]

It is a rebuttal. The Taliban movement was to rule Afghanistan, replacing the disorderly armed factions that remained after the Russians withdrew. The Taliban's active support came from Pakistan. Though the Taliban later co-opted some of the former resistance into its ranks, its direction was always from the top - from Mullah Omar - and was administered with the aid of Pakistan. link

Oh, so it's our fault now ? These are your creations gone wild........you just try to keep the blame from yourself by putting it on Pak Army and ISI.......................your country created and armed them, paid them and trained them in guerrilla warfare...........you promised to "Build a better and stronger Afghanistan" after the soviets left..............but when you withdrew, leaving the people to realize that they had been lied to, there was bound to be some backlash...............
At the time when they took power, Pakistan was too busy trying to survive through drought and sanctions...............what was going down in Afghanistan was the least of our worries.

 

[Awesome]

I concur. The taliban are very adept information warriors but that wasn't what YOU said, sir.

Here's your comment if I may-

"Problem is Nato has made this an anti-Pashtoon Afghan drive (as per perceptions)."

NATO hasn't done so whatsoever. That the taliban would manufacture this message is expected...

The qualifier being "As per perceptions". The same thing was marketed against Pakistan Army by the Taliban in Pakistan. That we're out to kill Pashtoons. The downer for Taliban being that where it would've worked in Afghanistan, there is a strong working federation between the Pashtoons, Punjabis, Sindhis and Balochis. It just didn't fly.

It's not the same for Nato. The real trust deficit that Nato needs to contend with is not between Afghanis and Pakistanis, its between Afghanis and Afghanis. The government of Afghanistan should have a Pashtun majority, the Pashtuns shouldn't impose tyranny by utilizing that majority and a collaborative government should go on.

When I talk to Afghan Hazaras in Dubai and ask them this question that why can't you guys unite, they refuse to acknowledge that Pashtuns are even Afghans.

Pakistan's trust deficit with Afghans is simply based upon this government. This current government thinks in this way, the Pakistanis support the Taliban against the Northern Alliance, so now we got to support the Indians so that we can get back at the Pakistanis. Our trust issues are natural consequence of their post-9/11 behavior and largely in self-defence.

Any true democratic government would have popular Pashtun leaders which would automatically align them with Pakistan over India.

 

[Solomon2]

Oh, so it's our fault now ? These are your creations gone wild -

Certainly the U.S. helped support the Afghan resistance to Soviet occupation. But the U.S. had nothing to do with creating the Taliban.

you just try to keep the blame from yourself by putting it on Pak Army and ISI -

I think at first the U.S. thought Taliban rule was beneficial, especially in the Kandahar region.

...you promised to "Build a better and stronger Afghanistan" after the soviets left

I don't think the U.S. made that promise at that time. Certainly we were working to do so before the Russians invaded - the irrigation canals U.S. Marines are fighting through in Marjah today were built with the assistance of U.S. engineers decades ago. Our Agency for International Development (USAID) can do much to build the infrastructure of third-world countries. Same with other international development agencies. But they first need order to operate, and America never promised to provide that.

At the time when they took power, Pakistan was too busy trying to survive through drought and sanctions.....what was going down in Afghanistan was the least of our worries.

Read the links.

 

[Gazzi]

I am a Muslim i believe in my religion, though i am a muslim who do many things that are against teaching of islam but no way on earth am i going to accept the Taliban Version of Islam
Taliban are doing no good to people of Afghanistan & Pakistan & to Islam they are Barbarians who are out for Blood & power by using Islam they gaining the 'emotional support' of uneducated people who don't know the real Islam they believe in what they are TOLD

This could be seen from their viewpoint and believe that you want them to believe what your version/viewpoint of Islamn is..........calling someone barbarian with no evidence other then what the media has reported isn;t a very good line to take or practice......you cannot cherry pick a news source from a media oprganisation for one thing and deny it for another........the Taliban have tried to explain their actions many a times over and over......there PR and media outlet is not existent, abit like Pakistan's when it comes to india